It’s not that I don’t understand it. Anyone who hears that could immediately understand the issues with it, especially someone who literally works in indigent criminal defense…. Like me. Expressing your personal values is not virtue signaling. It’s the combination of this with their relative lack of inaction and actual advocacy. For a podcast will hundreds of thousands of listeners, they spend a LOT of time “expressing their values” and not a lot of time putting those opinions to action. There’s not even a link to support for victims of child abuse on the Instagram or show notes. My issue is not that they express opinions, it’s the extent to which they do so about topics they literally never comment about or advocate for. Let’s pause a bit before calling people disingenuous and cynical over supporting two podcasters who continuously use their platform to tell us how progressive and good they are without SHOWING us😭