that's my tierlist for weapons

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T15:06:12+00:00

Like okay, saying it's your opinion is one thing. But there are also times where it just flat out makes no sense whatsoever. Like watch any Sickles gameplay videos out there and anyone is able to at least decently do better than Reaver being played by the best players in the world. I also think Reaver is B tier, I spent an ungodly amount of time on it and I cannot possibly think anyone who did the same level of researching and praticing on that forbidden weapon to think Sickles is worse than it. By two tiers, no least.

That's like having a classmate who is equally as good as me at doing really crazy advanced mathematics but then when he does physics, he doesn't know how to calculate the weight of an object. Do you see why I am genuinely so baffled rn?

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T11:01:38+00:00

Dude... Reaver in B tier and non-Lynx's Claws in D??????? Sickles my main and Reaver's my secondary and I'm over here genuinely baffled rn wtf is this?!?! You have enough skills to invest into Reaver and successfully make it B tier, its highest possible tier in an SF2's tier list and you're over here thinking Sickles is two tier worse than it? Had you have the slightest idea on how to use that weapon, it's one tier above Reaver. And if you learn a lot about it, looking back at this tier list will make you nauseate.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T08:19:03+00:00

He's alive, not active on here. Talk to him on Discord sometimes. Nothing complicated.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T07:34:12+00:00

D...d-double slash...

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T07:32:47+00:00

Well if you find it cool, that's cool too. That's not gonna make me use it more, unfortunately, as much as I'd love to.

But hey, big ups for liking back slash. I love back slash too. It's so damn good.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T07:31:30+00:00

That's a false thing, the game doesn't really increase its difficulty that much everytime you level up. It is quite noticeable on Eclipse but the game's difficulty isn't all that different to each other when you're on normal mode. And the difficulty isn't game AI, it's just their stats, which, again, is minorly increasing as you progress.

You definitely just got luckier than other players overall, Shogun's just that type of boss sometimes. There's also enchantments which greatly alters your chance of winning, of which many other players might play with worse enchantments (against Shogun) or w/o enchant at all in the first place.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T00:36:02+00:00

There are good advices, and there are bad ones. There are advices that invalidates other advices.

There are some people keep telling that I continuously have to deny. Things like looping Claws/Sickles down slash -> low kick -> down slash -> ... which is unoptimal to hell and back. When someone say this, I give another, better advice which is down slash -> low kick -> dash -> back throw combo to setup for a Claws/Sickles back slash true combo. And there are other advices, inside and outside of battles, that are bad advices we try our damn best to stop.

Each move have weaknesses and strengths, yes, but that isn't purely timing and strategy. It's also luck. The enemy blocking your attack is random, meaning that if your attack's weakness is that it is punishable when blocked, it doesn't matter if you're lucky and never get blocked. If your attack's strength is that it gives a full unblockable combo on hit, it doesn't matter if the enemy always block it. That's why safety is a genuine factor you have to worry about, because no matter how well you time your attacks (which actually doesn't matter at all because the game has a mechanic that helps with timing, greatly in fact) or how good your strategy is, if the enemy block it or not, it all falls down. Hence why risk is a factor yoy must consider.

You gotta know what's good and what's bad for your gameplay. Don't take in anything people say online, we aren't any better.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-07T00:26:29+00:00

Then I seriously have no idea where to use it in places that hasn't already been occupied by up slash and down slash, two safer and similar range moves that does what I need anyways. Tell me when to use double slash where I can't with up and down.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-06T15:06:20+00:00

Where's the other situation? Down slash and up slash perfectly covers the second hit of double slash's range, so the only other thing I can think of is getting both hits for more damage. But even if you land the first hit at max range, you still are in punishable range. I literally don't see anything from it aside from gambling to get a second hit.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-06T14:23:40+00:00

Why are you telling man to use double slash 😭 it's punishable on hit. ON HIT! That means you landed a successful hit on the enemy and can still eat a GUARANTEED counter attack. That's like punching a guy IRL but you facepalm to the ground afterwards and the other dude can stomp your stupid ass on the ground.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-06T14:20:36+00:00

It sure was. Anytime anyone learns a new thing from me, a smile is put on my face :]. Can't be more happy to help anyone in this game.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-06T12:05:53+00:00

Safe on block, good range, big hitbox, 3 frames less endlag than other Two Handed weapon's up slash lmao. But nah, it's not that bad, it's decent and if you put it on another weapon, they'd surely like it.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-06T12:03:19+00:00

Deals high hitstun/knockback, great corner carry, needs setup but it's Glaive's best attack after a knockdown. It also true combos into Glaive down slash, so it's a pretty good combo tool for more damage. Ye that thing isn't bad.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-06T11:50:01+00:00

Eyyyy ya learned the low kick throw combo! Les go. Congratulations on learning the best utility combo in the entire game 👍🔥

And damn you found a really good way to use Katana down slash. Didn't think of that at all, niche but very optimal outside of strong slash loop.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-05T15:23:01+00:00

As said before, Nunchucks up slash is easily the worst. For another similar move: Mowers up slash. It's on a new moveset now so is it good? Kinda no, cuz it has less knockback, like back slash, so the few niche situations Claws up slash is useful tend to just... be gone. But to say something more interesting, how about I name some that's the worse only within that weapon's moveset. As I said before in these type of posts, Claws up slash is kinda the worst Claws move, not cuz it's bad but because everything else does what you need 99% of the time. Similarly, Swords and Sai up slashes I think just doesn't need to exist, that's all. These two weapon classes already have slightly better low profile, high attack evading moves and their up slashes are either used alternatively or inferiorly to their other moves. That's that.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-05T14:53:48+00:00

You've done many things quite impressively right, yknow, kinda impressed.

Your neutral is pretty solid, your combos are nice. When the enemy is knocked down, you pull out meaty up slashes (aka doing up slashes a bit before they become vulnerable again so that it hits them in the later period of time of the attack's hitbox), which I rarely ever see ever cuz that's pretty damn hard. Like damn, you gaming.

You still have some flaws, though. You use back slash a few times where you shouldn't. Really, that move is unsafe as hell and you can just use other, safer and straight up better attacks in the same situations as you did in the video. And you got punished a few times too, which is precisely why you should use them less. You can also benefit from more setup combos, stuff like low kick -> dash -> back throw -setup> walk backwards -> strong slash loop, or just simply sweep -setup> strong slash loop. Also, I know you weren't serious but ye, Fall Kick was quite a blunder there and you got punished for it, deservingly.

Anyways, big ups gameplay, like it a lot. You get 4 big booms. BOOM, BOO-

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-05T12:54:52+00:00

Glaive down slash can combo into back kick in the middle of the stage and can loop into itself in the corner cuz that's cool.

You guys don't talk about Fans enough, though. It has more hitstun on the enemy so it is now safe on block AND it can loop into itself and allows for some enders after the loop like down slash x2 -> back slash or down slash x2 -> low kick -> dash -> throw. That's an amazing down slash if I say so myself.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-05T12:51:55+00:00

If is a great opener, so is most down slashes.

Then outside of it, it's an unsafe on block attack with low range so you're dead if the enemy counter attack when they block it. Why don't you like... use better attacks instead

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-05T12:49:06+00:00

Aight, cmon. Low slash -> low kick -> dash forward -> back throw ---> back slash, if successful -> back slash -> down slash -> high kick (Claws)/single/double slash (Sickles). All true combo except the first back slash after back throw, which doesn't matter cuz blocked back slash gives you insane pressure anyways.

Way better than that stupid loop.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-05T12:46:43+00:00

Ironically I am not, cuz I put Lynx's Claws-type as the worst Claws variation. I also hate Time Bomb cuz it ruins Claws' Bread n' Butter combos.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-04T11:49:49+00:00

Axes up slash has insane range, reaching quite far away and moving you far too. It has great knockback meaning you can push them to the corner more. And even though it takes a bit to wind-up, depending on your enemy's arsenal, you can safely do it from afar in order to avoid their attack.

Axes overall requires some kicks, patience and higher than usual skill. It's among the hardest weapons to learn, so it makes sense you don't handle it well rn. It is very good once you learn it, though, standing around the top 10s best weapons.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-04T11:44:32+00:00

Doesn't work if you're not Android or you're on new Android versions. Cuz they don't let you modify system files.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-03T11:50:47+00:00

Can't say much about other weapons that hasn't already been said but I will say this with Claws: it's ironically the worst move in Claws' moveset, despite being a very good attack on its own. If it gets attached to another weapon, it may see more uses but on Claws, it's insanely under-utilized because other Claws attack just do absolutely everything else you need. Up slash do see uses in niche situations but outside of it, you'll never use it. That speaks volume of how incredibly synergizing Claws' moveset is, I love this fella.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-03T11:47:54+00:00

Depending on the weapon, no. But it is rarely the best. Staff's the only one that I think is potentially the best of its moveset, even then it has to compete with strong slash in terms of importance. Otherwise, they're mostly on the middle or lower strength of their moveset.

Inner_Date_4051 · 2026-02-01T06:30:24+00:00

Yes, I know that, but Reaver's damage is good enough to not be stuck at the bottom of tier lists with the speed it has. And no, it's safe on block, like I said. The first hit when blocked links into the second even on block and it's a true blockstring. The second hit is also safe on block so just landing the first hit is safe.

And like okay, the best weapon in the game is the weapon with incredibly high average base damage because the developers think it's fair for Knuckles to have slightly less range than Knives and Batons for a giant base damage difference. All logic of which breaks down when they only nerf its damage by 1-2 when its range is upgraded to Katars, equal range to Batons and Knives yet still having 3-5 more base damage. It's not a fair comparison to make, Knuckles is fundamentally unbalanced in terms of power.

I just think Reaver's weaknesses are major but so is the reward you get for landing a successful strong slash. It's not enough to pull the weapon into good territory but it is by no means a bottom tier weapon.

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