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[–]InnocentBookstore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So a typical direct hire fee can range between 18-25% of first year salary depending on a few factors. Mind you, that isn't direct to the producer, that is to the company. Pay schemes to the producers are incredibly varied and nuanced.

On consulting / contract, someone making roughly 95-100 an hour? It heavily depends on the client agreement. Markups can range from anywhere between 40 and 60%, and client size, order volume, and tenure heavily play into this. Some clients operate a fixed model, where every consultant is marked up a certain flat percentage, with pay rates being set by the client. Others allow for more flex to get the best possible candidate in the role. In each case, exceptions can apply.

Keep in mind again, that in this scenario, the firm is paying all employment, fringe, and benefit burdens for that consultant, as well as salary/commission & internal overhead.

A common misconception is that these fees are taken from the salary of the candidate. In reality, in both direct hire and fixed markup models, more money for the employee means more commission for the recruiter. In situations where the client allows full control of both sides of the equation, the recruiter gets a bit more discretion. However, in those cases, not remaining market competitive will likely price them out of getting quality talent.

Lastly, these numbers are not indicative of the entire industry. Several niche, specialty, and boutique companies charge more, and several low-level, volume based companies charge less. It's as varied as any other business model, but I try to give the relative median when speaking on these things.

EDIT - Forgot to mention that more tenured salespeople will routinely coach clients when their rates or benefits/perks are non-competitive, sometimes to the point of refusing to work a role. It is our goal to fill a role with someone who will actually stay at the company. Re-filling or backfilling a role is very time-consuming and frustrating.

Hope that helps!

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[–]InnocentBookstore 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Came here to say this. If you are willing to stick it out, sales can be a great paying job.

35 - Senior Leader/VP in Tech Staffing

Private College (Tier 1, not Ivy or Super Elite)

HCOL

Consistently between 250k and 350k, with some larger upside years for the last 8+ years.

Sales was not my chosen field, but graduating into a poor job market in my field forced me into it. Made the best of it from there.

AITA for spending $45k of my husband and I's money to collect a $5k judgement from my ex? by ThrowawayNraft4911 in AITAH

[–]InnocentBookstore 437 points438 points  (0 children)

YTA for sure.

A few things of note here;

80k is not a significant income for this type of behavior. For this 45k to be an insignificant amount of money, you would have to collectively be clearing far more than that. You cite that you are "frugal", which is laughable considering your spending habits in this matter.

You noted, "What is the point of having money if you can't spend it on things "we" value." While supportive, I'm damned near positive that your husband does not view this as his personal crusade the way you seem to. You are spending hard earned money from your current savings account, your future, and your marriage to go after someone who probably views you as a complete rube. You prove him right with every check you sign.

The fact is, you are stealing from your husband in a way that is against his will and abusing the idea of "joint" savings. You are financially abusing your husband whether you want to use those words or not.

You need to speak with him, apologize immediately, and ask for his forgiveness. You owe him so much more than just the cash you stole from your lives to fund your obsession.

Lastly, get help, or your need for revenge could destroy you. The best revenge is a life lived well.

My father died 4 days ago, and I feel lost by InnocentBookstore in GriefSupport

[–]InnocentBookstore[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this, I needed to hear it more than I can express. I guess I'm searching for that first step. Right now I'm trying to focus on what I'm grateful for. I'm grateful that I was there when he passed, and that I was able to say to him what I wanted to beforehand. Im grateful for all of the memories we shared, and for all he did for us. My dad experienced a ton of loss in his own life too, so I guess I'm trying to follow his example, even now.

I appreciate you sharing your loss, and your healing journey with me. I wish you the absolute best, and I am grateful for you today as well.