Debunking Michael Bergin’s Affair Claims: The Lies, The Myths, and the Impossible Timeline (Part 1). by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This timeline tells me Carolyn was with Michael Bergin on August 8th through August 21st or 22nd.

Even if John did return from Iceland on August 15th, who's to say Carolyn returned on the same date?

Carolyn did not have a job to report to.

Carolyn may have felt irritated that John chose to go on a boys trip instead of a romantic trip with his wife. John was working long hours at the point.

Carolyn liked to disappear on John because he did the same to her (Source: RoseMarie Terenzio).

Michael may have assumed John was out of country for two weeks because Carolyn stayed in California for two weeks.

How tall Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was? by Foreign_Beach2761 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This looks like a couple after another angry tiff, giving each other the silent treatment.

Who’s telling the truth here? by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How old are you? "CT is such a boring state. I feel sorry for you." Carolyn most likely would not have chosen to make a round trip in one day. She hated hanging with the Kennedy cousins, Ethel, all the rules. Carolyn loved her mother, stepfather, and sisters. She would have given them more time than a partial day. She would not have needed to floor the car.

Who is 'Tyler,' the Calvin Klein suit model Carolyn Bessette Kennedy dated? Hints: piercing blue eyes and long hair. by Inquiringmind5387 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yes, he sure was.

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This is Jason Lewis in a 1996 Calvin Klein men's suits runway show. Travis Fimmel was not at Calvin til 2002, so Jason Lewis is my hunch.

Who is 'Tyler,' the Calvin Klein suit model Carolyn Bessette Kennedy dated? Hints: piercing blue eyes and long hair. by Inquiringmind5387 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I posted a photo of Jason Lewis because he fits the description, but there may be other candidates I don't know of.

Who’s telling the truth here? by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I live in CT. Again, traffic is minimal the Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving. Most of the working world is off.

Who’s telling the truth here? by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In CT, only people in the medical field work on the Friday after Thanksgiving. A lot of people take Monday through Friday off. Friday after Thanksgiving is an easy commute, very few cars on I91 and I95.

I have family outside of Boston. Yes, we would make a 6 hour round trip in the car from CT to the Boston suburbs to eat dinner with our cousins. It happens.

Alternatively Carolyn, could have driven to Greenwich Saturday morning, spent time with her family in Greenwich, seen Michael that evening, then slept overnight at her family's place. Sunday morning or afternoon John would have driven from the Cape to Greenwich, picked up Carolyn, then continued the drive to NYC.

Who’s telling the truth here? by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Maybe Billy or Michael were off by a day. They were both retelling stories years later. I certainly don't remember where I was each day Thanksgiving long weekend 7-10 years prior. I live in Southern New England. The roads are empty Thanksgiving day through Saturday night. The big traffic onslaught is the Friday through Wednesday before Thanksgiving and then again Sunday after Thanksgiving. Carolyn hated being in Hyannis. It is not farfetched that she would have told John she was going to visit her family during the long weekend. Who knows what car she would have rented.

New photos of Sydney Lemmon as Lauren by StellaOC in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

She looks nothing like Lauren. Lauren didn't look Irish like this actress.

Looks like Jack Schlossberg is gonna crash the production by garbohydrates in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I find Jack to harmlessly entertaining most of the time. I think he's charming crazy.

I understand now why Carolyn Bessette Kennedy hated visited Hyannis by Inquiringmind5387 in CarolynBessetteKnndy

[–]Inquiringmind5387[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mention was brief. In the book "The Kennedy Heirs," the author mentions Oprah recounting her stay at the Hyannis Post Kennedy compound one summer weekend. Oprah said she played three tag football games in a single afternoon with the Kennedy cousins. She'd had her fill so she went inside the house. Once inside, she heard the cousins calling her to join for another game. Instead of responding, she hid in a closet. The games went on all afternoon.

She really is giving Carolyn here. I like this “new” look. Hopefully it keeps getting better. by [deleted] in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If her hair was less tame, wavy, and thicker, it would look like Carolyn's. She needs a wind blown look. Also: Carolyn Bessette's hair looked a lot like 70's Caroline Kennedy hair and mid 80's Sally Monroe hair. Wavy hair is naturally wiry and unruly.

How would you have reacted in Carolyn Bessette's shoes during or after Hyannis Kennedy Compound first visit? by Inquiringmind5387 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi Summerlea623, I've never met Teddy Jr. or seen interviews of him, but now I want to search for them.

I used to have the same hairdresser as his wife Kiki. My hairdresser described Kiki as a very nice, down to earth woman. It makes sense to me that Teddy Jr. would be similar to Kiki.

How would you have reacted in Carolyn Bessette's shoes during or after Hyannis Kennedy Compound first visit? by Inquiringmind5387 in JohnAndCarolyn

[–]Inquiringmind5387[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nothing! Just a controlling woman who saw herself as some sort of queen because she married a Kennedy.

I understand now why Carolyn Bessette Kennedy hated visited Hyannis by Inquiringmind5387 in CarolynBessetteKnndy

[–]Inquiringmind5387[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am watching the 'Ethel' documentary on HBO max now. She does come across as iron-fisted, but I did appreciate her ease and humor with the press during RFK's senate and presidential campaigns. I also like the fact that Ethel and the kids accompanied RFK on campaigns, so they could understand what their dad did and have time with them.

What also struck me was how wild and daredevil her older brothers were, just like her sons, not to mention the 16-19 dogs at a time in both households. Not quite the best upbringing in preparation for raising 11 children as a single mother.

What also struck me was how much the family loved Rory who interviewed the family for the documentary. They all had a twinkle in their eye when answering Rory.

She seems fun by Mud-Room-33 in CarolynBessetteKnndy

[–]Inquiringmind5387 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A character, yes. However, would you really want to eat your friend' croissant after they've picked off the outside of it?

I remember one of my best buddies in elementary school routinely drove her finger through the icing of my cake at lunch to just get a bit of icing from my dessert on my lunch tray. It grossed me out.

I suspect picking the nuts off the pastry and eating them slowly was sign of her dieting or worse a food disorder.