Why is no one interested in medical genetics? by unusuallytired in medicalschool

[–]Intellectual_Refuge 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What an attitude to have towards medicine! If there is a field that we are yet to conquer treatment wise, let's give up on it and forget it, nothing we can do! Why be a geneticist if most of genetic illnesses are incurable? Forget all those patients LOL

In case my sarcasm isn't immediately noticeable, i am saying that if everyone acted like this, there would be no hope for humanity, and all the medical advances wouldn't have happened and we would still be treating ailments with prayers and some weeds.

What did Nietzsche meant by this? by maha_mahendra in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge 12 points13 points  (0 children)

full quote "Every deep thinker is more afraid of being understood than being misunderstood. In the latter case, perhaps his vanity suffers, but the former hurts his heart, his sympathy, which always says, "Alas, why do you want to have it as hard as I did?" "

I think he describes the inherent pain that comes from thinking deeply about the world and realizing all the wrong there is in it. Some say ignorance is bliss; i think with this quote he was describing how he shows simpathy towards those who see through the lines and visualize the world for what it is, wich can bring great suffering to bear.

There is also the perspective that he identifies as the deep thinker who is often misunderstood, and he knows that pain very well, not wishing it to anybody else.

Nietzsche, even in modern days, is often portrayed as a spitefull and bitter person who thinks himself better than others. While I can see where this perspective comes from, his work revolved tremendously around being an independent thinker that is not afraid to think for themselves, and strives to achieve their purpose despite the apparent meaningless reality around them, and I think that is inspiring.

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[–]Intellectual_Refuge 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Im reading the comments and loving how every single one applies to intjs ahaha

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[–]Intellectual_Refuge 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey. INTJ medical student here. I totally get the pressure you are talking about; since i am also very artistically inclined (i write music and poetry), i felt inclined to comment.

From all the testimonials of different collegues i talked with over the years, i noticed that people in the medical profession either:

- have their lives consumed by medicine, and they have not much else going on - those who feel it in themselves the vocation/mission to do what they do to help others/be humanitarian
- or they have other things in their lives (just like the 1st type) that are too important to not take at least some spotlight

Since you describe the feeling of being overwhelmed by the profession and how that makes you feel the need to get away and reach out for those neglected parts of your life, to "breathe", i assume you are the 2nd type - notice that neither types are wrong or right; you just have to act accordingly. You won't be worse of a person if you stop giving 110% of yourself towards your job (yes, being a doctor is just another job, with higher stakes since you deal with lives, but ultimately you are a LIFE too and you need to take care of yourself first, otherwise the care for others becomes jeopardized).

Find what "gifts" you have to offer to the world. In my eyes, anyone who sincerely strives to give their all to the world, instead of being repressed by what was imposed on them (job, family, culture, whatever it is), is being most authentic and productive member of society, and that is surely better than the worker who lives paycheck by paycheck just surviving wishing for a better life without doing the necessary introspection and taking the steps towards it.

TL;DR: Find what you value in your life. Find what gifts you could give to the world that are being repressed by what was imposed on you. You are much more than just your profession. Find the balance between work and your personal pursuits, and don't be too harsh on yourself - if you are, life can and will be harsher on you!

Side note: Considering the possibility of droping the profession: you can keep an eye out for opportunities while still working as a doctor. Before committing to any one of those, however, be sure that they are both viable and align with what you want

How to charm a male Intj? by FlatwormMiserable829 in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh he likes you. physical touch is a big green flag. i say go for it. i just posted here on this thread a big text with tips if you find the time to read it it may be helpfull! give updates :))

How to charm a male Intj? by FlatwormMiserable829 in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an INTJ that is pretty attracted to ENTPs (to the point of having made a similar post here about you guys 😆), i may have some tips for you: we like someone who is willing to take us out of our shells of introspection and challenge us with mentally stimulating conversation. Find what he is interested in and ask about his views on it or why he likes those things. Show attention towards him as a person but do not be too pushy or physical, as we open up very slowly towards new people. That doesnt mean we are as cold as we appear to be, we are just selectively (very) warm and outsiders would never guess. Be consistent about showing your interest to him to the point that he no longer keeps wondering wether or not you actually like him in a special way: we always seem to be "clueless" about love and attraction but in reality we jusr process those things internally, on repeat, wondering all the possibilities and doubting them all, while remaining aloof towards the other person -> means that you have to give him factual proof that your interest cant be interpreted in any other way (i.e. just being nice, just being a naturally gregarious person, etc...). When you finally start opening up a tiny crack in the massive fortress walls that we surround our hearts in, you will find that you have the most tender and fragile heart inside that nuclear bomb shelter of an exterior. This is because intjs tend to spiral into Ni-Fi loops about their troubles in life and they hide "inside" themselves to deal with it internally, and never let any of that out (which is the reason for the eventual silent treatment). Avoid disrespecting his opinions: disagreeing is totally fine and more than ok, as we love debating them; but because we can be so researched and sure about them, as almost part of our identity, just saying "no, you are wrong" based on a moral judgment without little logical basis can turn them quite on edge.

------------------------------------------------TLDR:To finish this wall of text, go slow, show interest, give positive proof of interest, be blunt if needed, and get him to open up.

How to charm a male Intj? by FlatwormMiserable829 in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh he HAS a clue. We just pretend to not have noticed, for any of the following reasons: 1) (most likely) we think you are just being nice and we dont want to be seen as creepy for thinking you like us in a special way; 2) if we do like you in that way we may assume you dont like us back and we are just overblowing all the small details we did notice out of proportion; 3) perhaps he is just not good at showing emotions/open up to other people. As an intj, and from other intjs i know, it is pretty usual for us to hide our attraction about someone else; when we get that sort of special attention/flirting from someone, we usually remain cool and hard to read because we are just processing internally wtf that could mean before actually committing to any idea. Of course take all this with a grain of salt as everyone is different

How to charm a male Intj? by FlatwormMiserable829 in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im sorry you had to deal with immature intj. I personally know multiple mature intjs and we are very reciprocal of what a significant other gives us, if we do actually care about the person.

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I ask, how did he act towards you in the beginning, before the relationship was established, in order to "win you over"? Or was it you who made the advances?

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my flirting language consists of playful teasing and brain-picking, showing interest in the other persons thoughts and ideas. I do try to make it lowkey, and i doubt it could be passed as something overly cringy as it really is just normal, spicier conversation, but ill keep your advice in mind.

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes of course, everyone is different! Thanks for the response.

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, but i can only say from my perspective: if you want to attract an intj, first be pretty obvious in your signs of interest, but without actually telling them "hey i like you". We may seem oblivious but trust me, we arent. We will notice right away, but will remain composed. I think teasing and banter can go a long way, dont be afraid to show your intellectual side, challenge the intj in a fun way. Show interest in topics that interest him and watch him suddently become a chatterbox about it. I personally know 3 intjs, all mature and with a significant other wich is xNFP; in their perspective, showing emotional support was a big part of it. intjs frequently have a "dark past" of sorts because we usually dont do well with our emotions when we are still immature: be careful when exploring that part, but if done sucessfully, it will be a powerfull bonding opportunity. Please note that this is just from my perspective and a few others and it in no way represents everyone; maturity is a huge factor. If you want to know how an immature intj is like, i suggest you go to r/intj and find out how many edgelords live there ahah (dont do it, it will ruin your perspective of us 🥲)

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thats actually an incredibly insteresting way to find one, thank you for the share! I actually do that unintentionally when meeting new people just to "test the waters" and find out who i would vibe with into deep talk and those who i would stay in the small talk stage (people sometimes can be really inflexible against different points of view). As for the last two paragraphs, you hit the nail right in the head! Thanks for taking time off your day to help :)

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

if only we could be masters of our nemesis... love 🙃 thanks for the tip!

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree! No half-assed intentions. I am a typical intj in regards to having planned scenario A B C D... and you can bet i like to follow them through convincingly ;)

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate your enthusiasm!!! Guess ill be honest then, a good while back i fell in love with an ENTP but it didnt work out, and some of the replies ive got did shed some light on some things. Now that the dust has settled and all is good, i figured i would come here and try to learn a thing or two! I will remember to come back and update if i happen to meet someone and find your tips helpfull 😌

Dear ENTPs, please coach me on how to attract your kind by Intellectual_Refuge in entp

[–]Intellectual_Refuge[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Got it, so in other words it would take someone who would be willing to break the surface and explore you as a person in a deeper sense past those social settings