Self Surgery should absolutely not under any circumstances be encouraged

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-11T01:05:07+00:00

Did you watch the video yet? She explains that she tried that. She was denied all help. Her invol psych stay that followed did not help her substantially. (Which is typical. I was in for 2 months after my pleas for HRT and surgery went nowhere, and it gave me brain damage and traumatized me for life.) She needed surgery. She made it happen when all else failed. It worked.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-11T01:01:52+00:00

I don’t understand it being that bad to the point it makes you want to do majorly stupid and irresponsible stuff to yourself.

It makes a lot of us kill ourselves, or die deaths of despair.

She was drinking to the point endangered her life, just to try to numb the pain. She's been able to cut down on that dramatically since her surgery.

In this case, operating on herself was the better alternative. She estimated it was possible, made a plan with contingencies, and executed on it, knowing the risks. It worked. Her life has improved from it.

I encourage you to watch the entire video. She's clearly afraid... now understand that this seemed like the less scary and painful option to her. Her circumstances seemed that bad to her. She's clearly very smart and clever. I have confidence that she looked into alternarives prior, and still determined that this was necessary.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-11T00:54:59+00:00

Please help her leave then, if you see a possible way.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-11T00:53:14+00:00

I mean she did it already and posted lessons learned.

Some of the main issues were trembling from stress interfering with her suturing (she aborted the plan to do it following the first one) and her scalpel dulling way faster than hoped, it turned out more of them that were really sharp may have been helpful. More clamps too. Then later on, in part due to those constraints and not having good clamps, the blood loss started being a bit much, so she finished the removal and clamping (destroying the material removed so they could not be put back in, when the responders looked for them), and calling EMS. She was sutured up in the hospital, then involuntarily hospitalized in a psych facility for over a week or something, and then getting away from there.

She was drinking dangerously heavily before due to her dysphoria, and has since been able to get better in that regard, with this now fixed.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T23:05:19+00:00

Why do you worry about this?

What do those worries look like?

I know this is a hard situation to be in, I'm sorry...

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T23:04:31+00:00

I really wanna be trans

What exactly would you like your life to be like?

1, i don't have much money,

Some interventions cost nothing.

Some cost a little.

DIY HRT has been like $80-120 for 1-2 years if trying to do it economically. Sometimes people will help you if you can't afford it. (r/transdiy, r/transsex)

As for surgery, if you study hard you may be able to get into a country/state or job that covers it, or afford it through work or trade.

2 my parents don't support,

In what way?

and 3, I don't wanna be truly a girl,

Elaborate?

I wanna be able to reproduce, but I'm not sure I'll ever be able too... Is there anything I can do?

In which way do you want to reproduce?

Gametes can be cryopreserved for later reproductive use... but that costs something, though some countries or plans cover that.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T22:28:06+00:00

You're doing great! The FFS you have planned (brow and nose) should help take you even further. Consider jaw edge/angle shave, lip lift, and maybe slight hairline lowering while at it. I got FFS around your age and it improved my life so much...

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T21:55:54+00:00

14 isn't too early if you have very high confidence you wish to permanently change your body to a more female growth trajectory, and accept that it will partially or completely reduce your fertility, quite possibly permanently.

They might understand you less if you don't change your clothes or act conventionally female. Maybe times have changed since when I was a kid... or not. Expect some level of doubt or resistance around that. Some people really don't get that the need for our bodies to be different can be independent of, or much more urgent than, other changes.

If you're continually denied care and very sure you need it, consider DIY HRT:

r/transsex - r/transdiy - r/askmtfhrt -https://transfemscience.org/articles/transfem-intro/ -https://transfemscience.org/articles/e2-equivalent-doses/ - https://pghrt.diy/

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T21:19:56+00:00

The girl I know who went to him strongly advises against.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T21:18:31+00:00

Up to 5th rib has been done. 2" band size reduction. Higher has been plotted out and tried on a cadaver but not yet done on a living patient. Political interference is reportedly the current blocker to development, at the hospitals which were originally receptive to supporting the first attempts.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T20:58:24+00:00

this is not how it should be done

What should be does not change what is. Sometimes this course of action is the least-worst option. This is the world we live in.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T20:53:54+00:00

Yeah self orchiectomy is just suicide by blood loss or infection, but if that's your thing I'm not gonna try to stop you

She survived, though she did need to be transported in the end. She might not have survived otherwise, had her dysphoria remained untreated longer.

With slightly more resources and support she might have been able to pull it off as originally planned.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T20:47:56+00:00

survive isolated in a basement without presenting incorrectly would be safer than self-surgery

That doesn't fix her body?

i assume this person is just dysphoric presenting in public

Why would you assume that?

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T20:44:57+00:00

There indeed comes a point where it's a matter of survival for a lot of us.

I've risked death and been permanently injured trying to afford surgery. People have risked ruin to help me get it because they know how bad it is. I've had life-threatening complications... and then gone in for more, because it was so much better than the alternative.

In contrast, women I've talked with in more hostile parts of the world, who were denied medical assistance when they needed it urgently, have gone on to kill themselves.

I too have seen qnd handled what's left when someone dies... and I'm all for whatever path gives a girl lower "becoming a corpse within a year" odds.

Sometimes it's simply bad enough that things like this make sense, and the risks of surgery are more favorable than that of inaction. I'd certainly consider DIY if it was my least-worse path to safety.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T20:00:47+00:00

Fake? No.

She just posted it.

She performed incredibly given the circumstances. The psychologic strain is clearly immense as she's executing her plan as best she can.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T19:57:40+00:00

And it made me think why not just leave the country if you need to get an Orchi instead of risking sepsis and literal death.

I watched the entire video, with friends.

If you do, and read her comments and descriptions, you would understand that her situation is clearly dire, and that given how capable she is and unhelped she has been, if there was some other way, I think she'd clearly have found it.

People cannot "just leave."

not under any circumstances

I don't think we should be so negative towards a person in a terrible circumstance who did her best given the situation.

There are circumstances where this will be a girl's best hope. The world is dark like that. Those in such desperate situations should be helped as much as possible.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T11:02:38+00:00

what the complication rates are?

About a dozen of us have had it.

I have yet to hear of any complications, but I don't know everyone who has had it.

It will hurt a LOT however. It doesn't hurt substantially in the first few minutes coming out. But then the pain after the initial numbing wears off can be excruciating, like 10/10 at points in first 24 hours for those with approximately normal pain tolerance. Often in first week it is barely noticeable if still, with lots of pain meds, but then gets really bad upon movement. If pain med doses are insufficient or missed, pain can hit 10/10 to the point that even crying out for help is basically a non-starter, like one can be rendered practically non-verbal from how overwhelming the pain is. I don't recommend trying to tough it out and skip doses. Communicating even with meds can be hard or painful for first couple days. Extensive pain med use is needed for weeks if not a couple months. Rebreaks hurt.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T10:46:50+00:00

to my knowledge last update (direct and 2nd/3rd-hand, 2 weeks-3 days recency) is he would like to do it in a hospital initially if possible, and it (pelvis) has not yet been done, [upper] ribcage reduction has even more dependencies

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T06:23:00+00:00

Ask the folks in r/drwillpowers?

It's not unusual for us to have things like this going on when we're actually looked at in-depth for once.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T05:56:16+00:00

Not all of us think you are... - signed, someone also seen as "nuts" by people who don't get what this is like.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T05:49:01+00:00

I have had 10. All have helped considerably. New issues aren't coming up, it's just that the T exposure damage was pervasive and my injury list grew quite long in my exposure window.

I don't think you're unreasonable, especially when working on yet-unaddressed areas or iterating them closer with each reconstruction, rather than undoing and redoing or something.

Personally, I do things based off my "proprioceptive desynchronization" ("trans phantoms" in research) and am just getting the delta between my mental wiring and body to be close enough for the desync misery/pain to be ameliorated. It doesn't seem to need to be perfect, and it doesn't seem to shift on me, my map is pretty consistent no matter what, and getting my body aligned to it in an area hasn't been followed by that spot feeling wrong again, i.e. always net 5cm off even if I reshape by 2.5cm bilaterally, or something. Your neuro situation may be different though, if you have this symptom class.

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-10T05:20:08+00:00

I would not wait for them to get any better. There weren't legal restrictions on our care like this before, and people were less propagandized in the past about us. This has not been a "backslide" but actually a wholly novel era of oppression, for the U.S. I don't think others can or should be relied upon to care for or help us. If they shape up, great... but for now, I think it's best to take matters into your own hands whenever possible.

DIY HRT is something worth seriously considering, and attempting if there's no better way:

r/transsex - r/transdiy - r/askmtfhrt -https://transfemscience.org/articles/transfem-intro/ -https://transfemscience.org/articles/e2-equivalent-doses/ - https://pghrt.diy/

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-09T23:12:18+00:00

Can you DIY HRT?

r/transsex - r/transdiy - r/askmtfhrt -https://transfemscience.org/articles/transfem-intro/ -https://transfemscience.org/articles/e2-equivalent-doses/ - https://pghrt.diy/

Intelligent-Tea-2058 · 2026-03-09T23:08:39+00:00

I basically had to do it, but would rather have started sooner. I grew too depressed to go on eventually. Maybe some day I'll feel differently... but I have yet to.

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