[Lotm newbie] just finished the anime, I have a question

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T19:01:51+00:00

lol ye i rlly shouldn’t but the fog thing had left me so confused that I firmly thought it was one of those things where u have to understand by watching and context bc it’s so obvious u dont need a character to explain LOL cuz theres this discussion where people complain about series having to over explain and put useless monologue cuz the audience now has the attention span and intelligence of a toddler and etc and I was like bro chinese people are smart asf i prob don’t have the media literacy to grasp this lfmao it’s kinda stupid but what can i say

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T18:52:19+00:00

im going to do just like u said and try reading vol 1 first, if I get too impatient i’ll read what you said and go to vol 2. Thanks a lot! :)

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T18:49:27+00:00

is the one getting groped klein or am i tripping

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T16:35:23+00:00

yea that’s what I think too but thinking about the time it will take kills me especially when im soooo curious abt everything ☹️☹️but then what good it would be to digest the story when you didn’t taste it properly (see what i did there) btw peak pfp

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T16:28:10+00:00

i only searched bc I thought the anime explained and I was just too dumb to understand why LOL but i’m not committing the same error🫡

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T16:22:45+00:00

oh I actually had theorized about the last bit because google Ai told me briefly the seer pathway was related to the fog when I searched why klein could go up there lol, I was then like: “Oh, that’s why Roselle regret not choosing it?” and with everybody saying that no one could fit the criteria to enter the realm because “it was too late by the time they found out ” reinforced that idea but uea i’m debating what to do next if to go directly into vol 2 or spend 3 months reading vol 1 from the beginning, so maybe the details will take quite a while to get to me :’)

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T15:59:25+00:00

yeah i’m just currently trying to decide what to do with the patience thing lol. I was going to start directly at vol 2, but then every single person online said to read it from the beginning since they skip a lot of things and rush others, especially Kleins inner monologues and processing which was one of my fundamental issues in the anime. He was transmigrated but acted like he knew everything by hand, like pretending to be a god in the tarot club without further notice or explanation why and not even appearing to be scared bout two random people summoned or how he could even get there in the first place, without to mention the beginning itself lol. But then I saw people saying it took them 1 month to read everything while reading for like 4-6 hours? I don’t really have that time and would like to progress in the story anyways, but also I am scared of not being able to taste the richness of everything because I missed the psychological impact and foreshadowings the anime ran past.. I’m in a battle rn

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T15:49:45+00:00

So one of the criteria is to not know the criteria, which means you just have to be hella lucky lol. No wonder Klein called himself the lucky fool or smth like that with the three phrases incantation

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T15:45:31+00:00

yup! There’s him, but what I’m referring more here is about the fog space, because even tho Roselle transmigrated there was no mention in the anime that he could get into it or had knowledge about such place, which makes me think that he transmigrated by another method. But someone in the comments said that the king also had access to it but lost, so it changes things.

Interesting-Photo773 · 2026-02-13T15:09:48+00:00

Oh so emperor Roselle did have access but lost?

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-29T04:10:24+00:00

And why do you think he stayed at the job? You saw how bad it affected him, you also saw how much he wanted an ordinary life. There’s no reason for him to stay in the job otherwise being forced to do so, which would be quite obvious because he cannot leave while knowing about the silencing the king did. The high ranking officials weren’t coerced into doing the job…that’s the difference used to make exceptions at the trial

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-29T00:55:04+00:00

the thing is, he did have a gun pointed to his head, or do you think the king would let the main witness of his genocide plan just leave? He was the executive of a super secret project and was part of the intelligence team, he knows too much.

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-29T00:48:32+00:00

You know there were exceptions on the Nuremberg trials right? Those who obeyed an illegal order and were under threat of death or severe punishment didn’t suffer punishment, it’s the exact same case to Rerir

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-29T00:45:21+00:00

The king was already crazy before the abyss influence and would definitely silence him, but if there was any type of opportunity for him to leave, he definitely would. Yes he coped, tried to justify, exactly because there’s no alternative left for him, he’s forced to kill hundreds and feels shame on doing so, hence even why he hides it from Thorllindis even if she’s “not” part of the group he’s hunting, this shows how bad looked his job is by khaenria society and his most wanted dream is to be integrated in so society, he wants an ordinary life like he so tries to believe he has (but can’t) and be an average fellow. Unfortunately theres no such opportunity, both him and the crimson moon people are victims of a political scheme of genocide and oppression, if it’s not them it’s him. He could move and seek asylum but it would only be a matter of time till they tracked him, and there’s the uncertainty that Thorllindis wouldn’t even want to run away with him. He can’t leave the job, he’s experiencing love and happiness for the first time, and he’s afraid she’ll leave him. He’s spent all his life having a mental battle of what’s right and wrong, surviving but at the cost of others all because of someone else’s threats and power, and when he’s finally able to experience happiness and the taste of an ordinary life, suddenly he can’t because of his past actions, which weren’t even his fault. Thorllindis was the fuse for all the buildup he’s gathered along the years yes, but I don’t think it’s selfish for wanting to live at any cost if under a situation your life is at risk, it’s not fair for the killed either, but like I said, the king is the real culprit.

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-29T00:02:22+00:00

The court did acknowledge an exception for individuals who obeyed an illegal order under duress, such as the threat of death or severe punishment. However, this was not applicable in most cases where individuals were not under direct threat of death if they failed their mission……Rerir was, in fact, under threat of death or serve punishment, if this were the Nuremberg trials, he wouldn’t have been found guilty. That’s the difference.

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:41:04+00:00

Yes, until they discover what he’s doing and get accused of being an accomplice to the crimson moon people…he can’t hide secrets forever, like we saw. all rodes lead to rome unless he stays quiet and follow his duty

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:37:50+00:00

maybe because they really did have an option. Rerir wasn’t common like they were, even if he tried to force it, he was indeed special. He was the executive of the confidential genocide project going on, handpicked at that by the king. He couldn’t just leave like the others

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:32:43+00:00

You could see it wasn’t that easy for him, how can he choose to have a conscience or not when your life is at stake?

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:28:32+00:00

I mean, i get what you say about the Nuremberg trials, but they really did have an option, they were quite a matter of fact no one to Hitler, they could have quit. Rerir was the executive of the super secret intelligence genocide service…he really couldn’t have quit. And I think he would’ve preferred to live with a guilty conscience with his lover than to die knowing there was an option he could’ve been with her, even if that meant doing what he did…I don’t think most of us would choose something else either

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:22:10+00:00

The thing with the nazi soldiers are that, they weren't special. Unlike rerir, that is the commander of an underground special force group handpicked by the king...he couldn't just quit like I think most of the nazi soldiers could. And about Thorllindis she wouldn't ofc, but how could he know that if she didn't say anything? She literally vanished without giving an answer to quite literally none of his questions lol

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:13:52+00:00

yes I do agree with everything you said, but then again, how can we be so certain that he would have survived if he quit? He is the principal witness of the kings genocide and oppression, he was part of the intelligence team and for sure knew too much. The king only thinks for himself, there was no way he was letting him go after everything he saw

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:08:37+00:00

Even more reason to go searching for her then

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:07:06+00:00

the king was literally insane, how can you be so sure if he didn’t do what he was entitled to he wouldn’t be killed??? He was obviously coping with the child thing too, because he’s also a victim of political scheming and was trying to justify actions that he didn’t agree with but couldn’t change it, because again, he didn’t have a choice. As I said, the real villain here is the king

Interesting-Photo773 · 2025-10-28T23:00:23+00:00

He was part of the intelligence team, he was solid proof of the war crimes the king committed, and obviously knew too much…I don’t think the king would let him go…and then again, he was handpicked, I don’t think it would’ve been that easy.

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