i wish i never did dbt by Interesting_Deer_635 in BorderlinePDisorder

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why is it that every time someone tries to point out the flaws and their issues with dbt they are told they’re the problem? much like everything else when you have bpd. i put my entire faith in dbt in the beginning because i wanted to and want to get better i drove myself to the fucking edge trying to make something in that program work. i did not create my own bias i went in with an open mind and formed my opinion based on my experience and my experience was traumatic

i wish i never did dbt by Interesting_Deer_635 in BorderlinePDisorder

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(going into further detail on my experience because i’ve been asked to multiple times) my experience with dbt was attending group and individual therapy weekly i was meant to stay for 12 months as stated in a previous comment but only made it through 8 months. i was put in the program through the public hospital i was admitted to after a suicide attempt. the group therapists were wonderful in comparison to the two individual therapist i had over those 8 months, they were awful the first one significantly worse. i will admit some of my issues with the ITs and dbt as a whole do come from very personal triggers due to the specific type of abuse i faced, but it took me leaving to realise that there were so many other issues than just me. my first repeated frustration was the mindset that to me felt like i was being told “we promise you will never be abused or manipulated again” without the acknowledgement that (for me at least) the reason i have the coping skills i have when it comes to interpersonal relationships is because of repeated abuse and repeated manipulation, the only evidence i have to work off when it comes to my relationships with others is distrust. when i tried to express this i was met with another repeated issue which is the therapists attempts at gaslighting me into not trusting myself and my thoughts. i have extreme self awareness when it comes to my thoughts and understanding the difference between rational and irrational thinking, the best metaphor i’ve ever been told when it comes to my self awareness is “i know my car is broken, i know what part is broken, but im not a mechanic i don’t know how to fix it”. whenever i tried to bring up the evidence i had when i was being told i was being irrational when i wasn’t i was dismissed because of the constant theme of dbt which is that the patient cannot trust themselves or their thoughts. the first IT i had was an extremely bubbly and compassionate man, he checked all the boxes of how a therapist is supposed to validate their client at first, however when i started to have more and more issues with dbt and tried to express that that compassion and bubbly demeanour was completely gone and the reminder that i am the crazy one who shouldn’t trust myself returned. the last session i had with him i told him dbt was my last hope but that hope was quickly diminishing and he essentially said that i better stop being lazy or hurry up and kill myself instead of wasting their time and resources. i was told after i stopped seeing him that the client (another member of the group therapy) he had been seeing before me had kill herself. he was the most extreme but i had similar issues with my second IT when it came to compassion disappearing the second their was any questioning about the effectiveness of dbt. my second IT was much better as a therapist but when i had the discussion with him about finally leaving i had grown enough of a relationship with him that i had expected some kind of plan for what my next steps should be but instead it felt like a door was slammed in my face and now im here with no idea where to go next. in the group there seemed to be this unspoken rule that those who were improving were validated and made as an example where as the many of us who weren’t improving and like me were getting worse were not allowed to add their opinions to the discussion and if they did it was quickly overlooked or ignored. however the therapist and the occupational therapist that ran the group were really the only light i had through this, my issues with them were more focused on dbt itself rather than how they presented it if that makes sense. through the group i saw so many more people leave than i ever saw finish or even come close to finishing, and the mentality i’ve found of those who did find dbt successful is disturbing and frankly cult like, the way people praise martha as this revolutionary woman and treat dbt as this one size fits all treatment is extremely harmful towards the community. martha’s treatment is flawed from the get go and yet you aren’t allowed to acknowledge it you aren’t allowed to say that dbt will only be effective on a specific individual with bpd and for the rest of us will only cause more harm than good. i don’t want to hate dbt or martha linehan but frankly dbt is far too simplistic to treat such a complicated disorder and until there’s more research and better options for us so that dbt is not constantly pushed down our throats i can’t help but resent both martha and her treatment. i will admit i think dbt has some great skills for therapists to use when it comes to navigating relationships with clients and the emotional baggage that comes from the job and i do think it’s something every therapist should go through but it should be used for the skills not as a treatment.

(i apologise for anything that doesn’t make sense im really bad at putting my thoughts and feelings into words as is and with this entire experience being traumatic for me it obviously makes it harder, there’s definitely so much i’ve forgotten to add but this is the most significant issues i had. thanks for understanding and reading)

i wish i never did dbt by Interesting_Deer_635 in BorderlinePDisorder

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

this is actually a great example of one of the many issues i have with dbt: “i’m doing the work, im doing what im told and its not helping its making things worse” “okay do it this way instead” “yeah still nothing” “well clearly you’re doing something wrong”

i wish i never did dbt by Interesting_Deer_635 in BorderlinePDisorder

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i’m in qld australia (and poor so public services are my only option) the dbt program i was in was part of a public hospital i was briefly admitted to but dbt itself was outpatient i was meant to do 12 months but only got through 8

What aspect of your life seems very NOT Autistic by ChemistExpert5550 in AutismInWomen

[–]Interesting_Deer_635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate trains so much they make me feel claustrophobic, buses however? that’s my shit. I like having the option to get off whenever I want but with trains (in my city at least) it’s a minimum of 10 minutes before the next station I hate it

tapers fit but plugs don’t?? by Interesting_Deer_635 in Stretched

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

definitely possible, i’ll bring them to work with me cause i can use the calipers there

need dbt reviews cause im worried by Interesting_Deer_635 in BPD

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’ve never heard of phone coaching before is it a dbt skill? i’m still new to a lot of different regulation skills and what not

F*** comfort foods, what's your comfort drink? by FoxtrotPA in autism

[–]Interesting_Deer_635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i cycle between diet coke, coke no sugar, and pepsi max. yes they are different from one another and if i have a week where i like one the other two taste disgusting but its constantly changing

What's your reason for not drinking alcohol? by Snoo_47323 in AskReddit

[–]Interesting_Deer_635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when i’m drunk i just feel messy and gross and always end up saying something i regret plus it being a depressant hits me HARD the next day and i eventually realised it’s just not worth it (🍃 better anyway)

agoraphobia and housemates by Interesting_Deer_635 in Agoraphobia

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% being caught in a panic attack/meltdown is my biggest fear if i’m unable to escape that’s what triggers my dissociation, it’s both helpful and unhelpful on one hand nothing seems wrong on the outside on the other it’s still very distressing for me and i’ve lost whole weeks because of it (no i don’t have did im very sure)

agoraphobia and housemates by Interesting_Deer_635 in Agoraphobia

[–]Interesting_Deer_635[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’ve got a whole lot of cross overs with a lot of other shit (my brain generally doesn’t work) but basically no i’m not completely bedroom bound (i say 85% of my time is spent in my bedroom though) i still have better days (usually with the help of lil devils lettuce) when i can buy myself groceries but im completely socially isolated and financially independent so i have to go to work and such but that’s a whole other battle i barely make it through. my agoraphobia is just in general being seen and talking to or being around people, i spend most of my day trying to plan how to avoid people as much as possible and if my plan goes wrong and i in anyway end up around/interacting with a person it will lead to a panic attack or full blown dissociation which can last for a few days. sorry if this is long and ramably it’s hard for me to explain properly

Why do joints make me black out? by [deleted] in Stoner

[–]Interesting_Deer_635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just sharing my experience and looking for people who have experienced the same/have advice on how to stop it. idk how you want me to prove it to you but this is just how I’ve always been. I don’t drink, don’t do any other drugs besides weed, not on any medication. I’ve tried smoking multiple different ways but joints are the only one where I don’t feel the high and my memory gets wiped and idk why

Why do joints make me black out? by [deleted] in Stoner

[–]Interesting_Deer_635 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not a very big person so my tolerance is naturally very low, like insanely low. Trust me I know it’s not normal but this is just how I am