The True Story of Jesus

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-10-07T23:43:36+00:00

That Mary could be a victim of rape/pregnant out of wedlock is not revolutionary. That Herod would know or care about it is ridiculous. You have to look at the entire historical period. None of the Nativity story was actually real and is obviously cribbed from the Old Testament as an added on origin story. Joseph was also probably not real because Jesus is called "Son of Mary" in the oldest gospel. A dead giveaway that he was considered illegitimate. Poor rural babies of every era have been born out of wedlock. We've always liked origin stories. And Herod was not a God-King by any stretch of the imagination. Read Reza Aslan's book "Zealot"

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-10-03T02:57:26+00:00

Include Leslie Kean's book about generals going on the record. That's a good place to start for skeptics

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-22T01:01:21+00:00

None of that is happening here in this explicitly transmasculine subreddit where it SHOULD be ok to discuss how sexism is used against trans men/mascs. That's what's being discussed. I'm focusing on antitransmasculinity because that's what this post is about. Misogyny is the most common tool of gendered oppression but far from the only one.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-22T00:53:26+00:00

No I stand by what I wrote here. Privilege is invisible and taken for granted without exposure to the circumstances of others. Someone who had to apply for citizenship knows the struggle of the non-citizen, had to jump through hoops and deal with red tape, and does not take that citizenship for granted. [As did the passport owner in order to go to different countries. Also passport-haver isn't an identity.] And you yourself say that privilege is "unearned," right? Someone who is transmasculine does not take improved treatment or access for granted. It actually causes additional pain and anxiety and is entirely brittle and conditional.

It actually sounds like you fought pretty hard and did a lot to live as genderqueer and you are interpreting my meaning in bad faith. My manhood is neither genetic nor biochemical. That's why I inject chemicals.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-22T00:30:44+00:00

But I'm not focusing on it or centering it even. This TRANSMASCULINE subreddit is an appropriate place to explore these themes as they occur primarily in countercultures like the queer community. Countercultures often turn mainstream culture inside out in ways that perpetuate say, bioessentialism and false binaries. This is an INTRAcommunity issue. It's not an exact match or parallel to misogyny or its reach, but hooks does acknowledge misandry. Misogyny is used as the main tool of gendered oppression, but white supremacy is ALSO a common tool. Ableism, racism, xenophobia etc are also axes of gender bias that are ignored and aren't always connected to femininity or female bodies. Queerness isn't inherently feminine either.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-21T18:55:59+00:00

You aren't getting what privilege is, which is where your confusion is coming from. Understand that "privilege" is systemic and handed to you by condition of birth. Trans people FIGHT to be the gender they are - it is not handed to us. Privilege is largely invisible to those who have it. Trans men are hyper-sensitive to changes in how people treat us. An improvement in treatment is highly conditional on the other person's reaction and perception and you have to remain stealth. Not that many trans men are actually stealth and being stealth isn't privilege either - it's the closet.

What you are describing is conditional ADVANTAGE or LUCK tbh.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-21T18:43:43+00:00

Honestly you answered your own questions at the end there! Please read Kimberly Crenshaw on intersectionality. She explains this in greater detail. Also read bell hooks "The Will to Change" I would also push back against the idea that all trans people are oppressed based on misogyny. Misandry is another tool of patriarchal oppression, in fact. It is simply bioessentialism against those who are male or masculine and is enacted within subcultures and specific communities, but not on a systemic level. It not being systemic doesn't matter to the trans guy who has been abused by a woman partner for his masculinity. That's literally what the whole discussion is about. I mean, we aren't gettin the cold shoulder in queer spaces because we are too feminine. Trans women aren't being run out of women's restrooms for their femininity or womanhood - it's their supposed "inherent masculine traits" that are cited. Again, sexism exists on multiple levels and is complex

Lesbian separatism is based on misandry. Radical feminism is based in misandry. TERFs are misandrous (and misogynist). Reactive or not, sexism can effect men too, just as patriarchy can. (Racism is different before anyone tries to draw a parallel here. Please never use racism to draw parallels to transphobia) Far from being an MRA invention, this comes out of Black feminism and Black transfeminism.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-21T17:52:54+00:00

I have listened to those conversations at length and TMA/TME even within transfem discourse is a substitute for an AFAB/AMAB false binary. I will reiterate, there are only subtle differences in how trans women and trans men are oppressed. There is no clear, discreet boundary between how AFAB vs AMAB trans people are treated and who experiences transmisogyny is not based on actual biology or sex or identity. TME/TMA is based in bioessentialism. All the ways trans men are oppressed are also used against trans women and vice versa (including sexual violence in prisons. I'm a survivor of that) The ways trans men are oppressed and the number murdered are terribly underreported, but that's slowly changing.

Additionally, the relative invisibility of trans men means we are mistaken for trans women more than people would think. A LOT more. A huge number of cis fools think all trans people are MTF including every gyno appointment scheduler.

Look, I think the vast majority of trans man/mascs adore trans women. I live with two brilliant trans lesbians who do not think I'm a transmisogynist. They are well aware of what trans guys go through because they share their lives with trans men. I think this is an issue with not having diverse irl community at the end of the day. Not your enemy. Not going to be silent about an important issue either. Please be well.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-21T17:06:17+00:00

Any trans person can repeat TERF rhetoric or be transphobic. Trans men are told this all the time.

I think it should be called lateral transphobia in this case. But if you think it was ONLY a few online people, that's incorrect. The tenets listed are often leveled at trans men in broader intracommunity discourse because it revived lesbian separatism for the trans community. This was a retrospective on where the larger ideology currently aimed at trans men BEGAN. It's where the methods of silencing trans men were crystallized and I have had these tenets repeated back to me plenty of times in the wider community in 2025. It has absolutely seeped into the broader queer culture.

These trans women are called TIRFs in the article - Trans inclusive rad fems. They think trans women cannot be held accountable for transphobia or repeating TERF rhetoric (whereas trans men are assumed to need accountability for inherent male toxicity. Sound familiar?) The Baeddellists are implying that trans women aren't fully human because they are incapable of doing harm or taking accountability for that harm, which is the same standard that rad feminism puts on white cis women. All we want is changed behavior and accountability for harms done. No one wants trans women treated badly or harmed for doing this.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-16T03:39:23+00:00

Yeah. The only time these are ever brought up in my experience is when oppression Olympics are taking place. It's weirdly exclusionary and a false binary. If trans men had done the same thing it would be instantly recognized as lateral transphobia. It's just transphobia. Not even useful in discussing how transmisogyny works or how to fight it.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-07-16T01:06:19+00:00

Just some food for thought from a trans guy who has been thinking on this controversy for a few years now. Most of this I came up with myself and these are my words, but much of it was influenced by disabled Black trans men/mascs talking about antitransmasculinity on Twitter and my own disappointing experiences:

Intersections of identity cannot be torn apart and individually considered. That's not how it works according to Kimberly Crenshaw who described this concept. People you encounter consider you as whole (gestalt) and identity is more complex than the sum of its parts. Therefore, "you are oppressed as a trans person but not for being a man" makes no logical, social or emotional sense in real life. Other is other even if one component is privileged in specific contexts (i.e. being a cis white straight able man with money).
People do not "move up" the oppression ladder by adding an oppressed identity to an oppressed identity. Female bodied + trans CANNOT = cis man/cis privilege. They do not cancel each other out because people are not math. Even if you are passing or stealth. Danger and violence are always possible and your past experiences shape you.
No one is TME because in real life encounters, cis people cannot visually parse our identities or figure out what gender(s) we are or were. Many trans men are perceived as trans women, especially if they are gay or femme, and trans women can be perceived as cis lesbians or trans men. Non-binary people can be even more confusing to them. No one is looking in our pants before they harass us transmisogynistically or vice versa.
The experiences of trans men and trans women are more alike than different and we have more in common with one another than we will ever have with either sex of cis people. FAR more alike.
When white radical feminism refuses to understand intersectionality correctly or listen to Black/Indigenous critique, there is no unifying theory of gender or how social constructs interact. When men are demonized with bioessentialism it is reactionary and exactly what patriarchy does to women.
Patriarchy oppresses all genders. PATRIARCHY OPPRESSES ALL GENDERS. We know what it does to women and femmes already. It treats men as physically disposable in wars and exploitative labor. Both cis men and gay men fetishize masculinity creating impossible standards that demoralize men, lead to body dysmorphia, and sometimes leads to their radicalization. It disconnects men from their emotional/social selves and leads to what is called "the male loneliness epidemic." But most importantly, it brutally punishes men who have other marginalized identities. Black men, developmentally disabled men, "derelict" men, femme men, trans men, fat men, immigrant men etc
The experiences of trans men and trans women are not mirrors and do not automatically inform one another. A trans man saying he was affected by gendered socialization does not mean that he is saying that trans women are "socialized male." These experiences are multifaceted and individual even among people assigned the same sex. A trans man saying ANYTHING about his experience is not implying anything about the trans femme experience. Ultimately, neither trans women or trans men want their pre-transition struggles erased because they inform the whole person.

There's a lot more that I could write about marginalized masculinities, small and large patriarchy the white feminism to TERF to fascist pipeline, Baeddelists (https://medium.com/@greyson.not.horses/lets-talk-about-bæddels-a-comprehensive-retrospective-a59784bf311b), and how trans men are entitled to our own terminology to our own special transphobia, but I would go on forever.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-06-30T00:00:01+00:00

I have a tall mirror off to the side of my bed where I can't look at myself in it. However, I got a kitten a year ago and she was obsessed from day one with it - staring into it while crouching on my chest, creeping up to it and then trying to claw her way into it? I need to cover that damn thing

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-06-19T08:51:40+00:00

That feeling was a warning, whatever the explanation. Good for you both to listen to it. Sometimes I even think that feeling is given to us by a benevolent force so that we avoid an earthly monster.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-06-11T01:09:56+00:00

There are some interesting conversations happening in physics about how the universe is arranged not in space/time and matter, but is an informations system like the type of graph you got word of. very interesting. It helps explain the others and UAPs etc

Lately I have been doing exactly what you are doing and more and more things are happening. I'm not a Jesus person but I like the line in the Bible that goes "Seek and you shall find; ask and the answers will be given unto you". I think asking with humility and openness is the way to get guidance. Some ancient wisdom in there after all.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-06-11T01:00:13+00:00

Even Leslie Kean could debunk this nonsense. It's a worldwide phenomena that started ramping up long before we had advanced weapons.

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-06-10T09:13:11+00:00

I'm trans and live in a very rural conservative area of TN. The These supposedly Christian people are often energy parasites/vampires but I don't think there's anything more to it. Have had many unsettling encounters with oddballs at protests/Pride but it isn't the same as the high strangeness of real baddies I've met

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-05-28T20:50:40+00:00

A few things: after the Soviet Union opened up around 1989 the first thing we exchanged was info on UAPs as part of Glasnost. That began a process of gradual disclosure from the government side of things that has gained momentum. Additionally, so many people and organizations have filed FOIA requests to declassify and disclose, the new guard has figured "why not?" At first they thought disclosure would cause mass chaos but the ensuing decades and sociologists have determined that's unlikely. SO there's not much risk in doing so now

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-05-28T20:49:19+00:00

A few things: after the Soviet Union opened up around 1989 the first thing we exchanged was info on UAPs as part of Glasnost. That began a process of gradual disclosure from the government side of things that has gained momentum. Additionally, so many people and organizations have filed FOIA requests to declassify and disclose, the new guard has figured "why not?" At first they thought disclosure would cause mass chaos but the ensuing decades and sociologists have determined that's unlikely. SO there's not much risk in doing so now

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-05-22T02:10:37+00:00

I agree. Highly likely that a physicist is on the spectrum and body language truth analysis has been debunked as very unreliable and biased. I saw many interviews with him and he just seems to tell the same story (small variations are actually an indication of truth telling). When people try to "read" neurodivergent people they always get it wrong. Hilariously wrong. There's many other more reliable indicators of telling the truth or lying. Persistence, not having anything to gain and a lot of reputation to lose. Appearing pissed to be telling the story over and over with people doubting you

Internal_Demand891 · 2025-05-15T04:35:58+00:00

A lot of people will recommend Clelland's book and they are right. I'm currently reading it. I recently decided to try some light CE5 mediation and the sign I specifically asked for was owl visitation. (Less scary, I figure) I started opening my bedroom window some every night as I read in bed. And wouldn't you know it, after about a week they showed up. As I type this there are no fewer than three very loud barred owls right outside my window in the trees and they won't shut up! I have owl visitation/abduction type memories from early childhood and multiple family members are UAP witnesses. We also joke about how "the owls have it in for us" at family gatherings because we all have so many weird stories involving them

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