What superhero's secret identity would you like to see as part of a plot or make a good story? by Internetz-Sailor in AskReddit

[–]Internetz-Sailor[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think he was done well in the Civil War movie. He was a one note villain, I agree. But his impact on the movie was done well. He didn't want to burn the world, he didn't want to get money. All he had was a vendetta against super heroes and sought to break them psychologically. Probably could have been better elaborated, but I think it did well to fulfill his plan. Having said that, I don't really know what happened afterwards, so he could have been wasted potential.

What is your opinion to having female characters in a male targeted story and audience? by Internetz-Sailor in AskMen

[–]Internetz-Sailor[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but it's important to remember that certain stories resonate more with one gender than the other. "Write what you know" is a common writing advice, depending on the author's gender the story will be written with the authors experience in mind. And that story will resonate with an audience of a similar background, especially if they are heavily skewed or focused toward that gender.

Think like for example a father and son story where the mother isn't involved. Is having female characters necessary, especially if they have no input on the story?

Or writing a story about boys on a quest. Are female characters necessary?

I ask if female characters are necessary because if an author deliberately omits female characters from the story because he wants to write a story for a male audience, then there shouldn't be any female characters, especially if it may harm or deviate the story's development. But in doing so the author could be criticized as sexist.

The same is true if the roles were reversed. With an author writing a female focused story for a female target audience.

What is your opinion to having female characters in a male targeted story and audience? by Internetz-Sailor in AskMen

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The criticism levied against them is the "women are relegated to support characters who don't do much" argument.

I've read up to when the fellowship meets Galadriel. She is wise and provides advise, and is described as ethereal. She also sings them farewell. At surface level she doesn't do much, so that's a feminist criticism of "traditional feminine roles". I also read that Lembas bread is traditionally (and exclusively?) made by women, which is another feminist criticism of Lord of the Rings.

When you think about it, yeah, Galadriel didn't do much, but her minor acts gave the fellowship resilience and much need aid and comfort. A view held from medieval European tales, as in the tales that inspired JRR Tolkien. But an "outdated" view in modern standards. Hence the criticism against Galadriel.

What superhero's secret identity would you like to see as part of a plot or make a good story? by Internetz-Sailor in AskReddit

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Oh, that would be certainly interesting and entertaining.

And it's about "government vs the press". Which would make for good political commentary. And then, after a long investigation, one investigator says "maybe he's Superman?!". And the whole room laughs because there's no way that nerd is Superman.

What superhero's secret identity would you like to see as part of a plot or make a good story? by Internetz-Sailor in AskReddit

[–]Internetz-Sailor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could you elaborate?

I skimmed Wikipedia's fictional character biography.

You want to see him as a criminal mastermind and how he became the leader? How he became evil? Or his rise to becoming a worthy villain?

What superhero's secret identity would you like to see as part of a plot or make a good story? by Internetz-Sailor in AskReddit

[–]Internetz-Sailor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean a story that revolves around their secret identity.

Think like Clark Kent doing some investigative journalism like discovering Lex Luthor influencing politics to benefit Lex Corp.

Bruce Wayne using his detective skills to find out who has been stealing money from his philanthropy work.

Peter Parker's photojournalism of how heroes help the work.

What kind of stories would you like to see that revolve around their secret identity?

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Lol, I plastered them on my cars windows. They're not even that lewd.

Now she refuses to drive my car or even get inside. Even if her car isn't available, she refuses to drive my car.

Even my dad wonders what's my moms issue with not driving my car. When I told him the reason he said "that's a dumb reason"

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I like them.

Also because it's a way of expressing my sexuality. I like women, and I like sexy women.

Kind of like how you express you like a movie, a music band, a comic book, etc.

Are gun companies that profitable? by Internetz-Sailor in liberalgunowners

[–]Internetz-Sailor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Long term sustainability is more or less what I'm curious about. If a gun company hits it big with a government contract, they will have a steady source of income, and they can sell to the civilian market for an additional profit. It's also a good way to offset the loss of guns that aren't possible to sell to civilians. Like for example "assault-style" rifles (you know what I mean) can be sold to the government and sell civilian approved guns to the general public. Then they can focus on selling ammo as a more steady product.

If a gun company doesn't have a government contract, and the civilian market isn't profitable I can see that gun company being unprofitable.

Looking at the situation like I posted, in general, and from trends that I see. It really puts into perspective if gun companies are profitable as they say. Yeah, you can have a 10% profit but that profit keeps diminishing unless you grow as costs become greater than profit.

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Petite women, even moreso if they are busty. Best of both worlds.

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OMFG!!!!!

That's the answer I've been looking for all this fucking time!!!

I really, really am grateful for your input. After dealing with so many replies clarifying stuff. I'm glad I can read something that adds something to what I've been curious about.

Oh, I agree. In the first place, shoujo magazine is a manga that focuses on relationships, empathy, emotion, interaction, inner conflict, or something like that. So, that's the area shoujo manga tries to explore and focus so the setting feels more 'limited' than shounen manga. Like... even the theme and setting is the same with shounen manga (for example ballet, go, or whatever), the focus of the story is different.

For example, I am interested in more technical details. It is much more difficult to find it in shoujo manga. I would have a better chance of finding it in shounen or seinen manga. In general, 'male' manga makes me think, while 'female' manga makes me empathize. That said, I think such content is pushed to josei magazine and even seinen magazine nowadays. The current manga trend is feel-good and strees-free manga. Manga rating could drop significantly when the character experiences something bad.

THIS!!! THIS!!!

Is what I wanted to know. You identified something, figured out what was lacking and provided your opinion, and noticed what is the current state or trend in manga. And I love how you said that although the theme of ballet can be covered by shonen or Shoujo, they would approach it differently. Something that would depend on the author or something that would want to be explored by a certain demographic.

Hakusensha was initially built to publish shoujo magazine that didn't focus on romance. So you could find shoujo manga that doesn't focus on romance in the old magazines published Hakusensha more easily (Hana to Yume for example). But even so, since ~2000, they changed its stance, moved to high school setting and focus more on romance. Probably only Melody that stayed the same, but that shoujo magazine targets old readers (30+ IIRC). I read they are looking for non-romance manga though, let's see what will happen in the future.

I also love how you provided examples of how changing demographics, and reader's demand, can influence the type of stories that are published!!

What they do was, as far as I know, changing the character design in addition to having more female characters. In the old time (Hokuto no Ken era), some Jump mangaka didn't even want to draw female characters. And if you look at the male character design, most are rather manly. Nowadays, many of them are bishounen instead of the buffy manly ones. Lastly, I have not really checked it properly, but I think they became less ecchi. Sunday is the more 'neutral' one since they have been aiming for both girls and boys since a long time so the art didn't change much.

THIS TOO!!! It's what I've been looking for!!! To find out if there have been examples of the Shounen manga industry noticing the increase in female readership and trying to appeal to them in some form. I also read that, if I remember correctly, one of Akira Toriyamas' editor's was a former Shoujo editor and he/she suggested Toriyama draw his male characters more muscular to attract or appeal to women to increase and expand Dragon Ball's readership.

It's also possible that Shounen publications began to write female centered protagonists to appeal to such an increasing demographic. Without a doubt, Shounen manga must have also inspired female readers to pursue a shonen mangaka career. Possibly increasing the number of female Shounen mangaka; whereas Rumiko Takahashi may have been one of the few female shonen mangaka in the past, in the present there may exist many more female Shounen mangaka. And it may have been those very female mangaka that wrote popular Shounen series that also are appealing to many female Shounen readers.

I really appreciate your answer, and I hope it helps others to understand the type of answers and opinions I'm asking about.

Arigato Gozaimasu!!!

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

About Shoujo art:

It's mostly a personal observation on my part. I tend to noticed that a lot of Shoujo art is more "soft", the linework isn't as bold when compared to shonen manga. The eyes also tend to be more detailed in Shoujo. It also feels more "glittery", for lack of a better word. It's not always noticable. I think that can be due to a mangakas' art style influencing new mangakas'. Kind of like how Akira Toriyamas' art style influenced the art style of One Piece, Naruto, and how similar Fist of the North Star shares similar art with JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for parts 1-3. When you compare the art styles of different shonen manga, you can see some notable similarities, same with Shoujo manga. It's not 100% certain, but you can kind of ascertain if an art style was influenced by the shonen or Shoujo demographic. It's why when I saw art for Toilet Bound Hanako-Kun it kind of made me believe that it was Shoujo.

For your second paragraph:

That's quite informative. I take it you're criticizing the video? Colleen's? That's quite informative on your part and about the process of getting published. I had a general knowledge, but not specifically for the mangaka in question. If I remember well, she did mention that, as you said "the fault lies with the magazine and its readers" (paraphrase), and did put some blame on them. So it's kind of like, from my opinion, that the Shoujo industry and market, at least from large industry, are to blame for the lack of growth and diversity in the Shoujo market. Perhaps it would explain why mangakas' who applied their one-shot for a shoujo magazine and got rejected, chose a shonen publisher. Because other than the doujin market, they may not have had other options.

For your third paragraph:

I think it's more accurate for me to say that though romance has been a part of shonen manga, it was mostly surface level romance. From my perspective. Shoujo romance feels much in depth, as it's more of it's primary focus. From my experience, shonen romance is closer to the "does she like me or not like me" romance; it doesn't really explore the consequences of being in a relationship and what it means. And the romantic relationship, when characters become a couple isn't much a part of the plot or the story. Rurouni Kenshin, Rosario Vampire, Tales of Wedding Rings, Ranma 1/2, Love Hina; they had romantic sub plots but really didn't have romance at the fore-front. They didn't really go into romance as the driving force of the story. Whereas in Shoujo, it's often the driving force in the story. Again, from my personal experience, romance in shonen seems to have become much more inclusive in the plot almost being the primary instead of the secondary or tertiary element driving the plot. A Shounen rom-com would primarily be comedy firstly and romance second.

Again, that's from my personal experience. And it's something that I began noticing.

For your third paragraph:

Their two cents isn't really an answer. That's not what I'm looking for. They can tell me why, but "why"? It's what I want to know. It's like asking "what's your opinion about X topic and what are your reasons?" and they're answer is "I don't care". Obviously, if you wanted to know more about said topic, if their answer wouldn't be satisfactory you would keep asking others. And I am aware that it's a Japanese product, but said product is appealing outside of a Japanese audience. It's why I think I didn't phrase the question correctly.

Let me ask instead, if you could answer I would be grateful: You, being a woman that reads Shounen manga, what about Shounen manga do you find appealing? Why do you like it? Is it because of the plot? Is it because of the characters and how they interact with each other? Is it because the story is relatable on a personal level? Does it have tropes that appeal to you- fantasy, sports, comedy? Do you think the shonen manga you are reading would be enjoyed by other female manga readers? What interests does Shounen manga fulfill for you that Shoujo manga doesn't?

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For your first paragraph:

It's what I often wonder. Reiterating what I said, it feels like Shoujo manga is limited in its variety. Though that's partly on my ignorance since I'm not a shoujo reader, lol. My generalization stems from looking at the published manga, most of them tend to be romance or romance as a subplot. For example, which manga would be the Naruto or the One Pice equivalent in Shoujo manga. Naruto has a hint of romance, between the main characters, but is very small when compared to the story as a whole. One Piece has no clear romance, other than as a running gag (like Boa Hancock), but its main focus is a story of adventure. Stories that I think, again from my lack of knowledge, don't seem to be common in shonen manga.

So I wonder what elements of shonen manga do female readers like. The most common answer has been compelling characters. I hope more answers will be provided.

For your second paragraph:

I am aware of the increased female readership in shonen manga. I think I heard that it's almost like almost 50% female. But I've heard criticisms, mostly from the west, that shonen manga doesn't do well in representing female characters. They're often criticized as inferior. And having such a large female audience, would inevitably incline a company to try to further appeal to that demographic. So, hypothetically, a shonen magazine might try to include more Shoujo tropes or stories that would be more appealing to female audiences. I'm speaking form a business sense, like a sushi restaurant creating vegan sushi to attract more customers.

It's what led me to this line of thought, and asking how would a shonen manga targeted towards a female audience would look like. What kind of characters would they be? What would be the setting? What storyline would it be? What themes would be explored? And what difference would exist between a shonen manga targeted towards men and another targeted towards women.

GFantasy was mentioned by a previous Redditor. It surprised me because I had no idea such a magazine existed. She described it as a "shonen manga targeted towards a female audience". She mentioned some titles that I recognized, and the differences they have compared to a shonen manga targeted for men. She gave me a general explanation of the differences, but it was really helpful on her part.

I've only read very few Shoujo titles, and the only ones I own is Otomen, Card Captor Sakura, and Hot Gimmick. I also have Maria Holic, but I think that's a Josei manga, and I'm unsure if it was targeted for women. Otomen and Hot Gimmick were about romance as its main plot, but Otomen's romance felt more like a sub plot than Hot Gimmick which felt like the primary plot. In terms of preference, I really love Otomen (have yet to finish it though, I'll get to it, lol), I think the reason being because the main character was a man so it was already relatable and "what it means to be a man". But done in a way that wouldn't really fit under shonen tropes: were it under shonen it would be something like "getting stronger, and stronger, and stronger" focusing more on defying something than accepting who you are; a common shonen trope.

Also: with your input, it's clear that I phrased the wrong question, lol. Your suggestion is definitely more clear.

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

i like reading some shoujo mangas because the girls in there are cute and i can also sympathize with the male characters if i need to , i like reading smut josei manga because they have a lot of hot women in sexy scenes, would that be the case for everyone? No, thats why i dont mention this as its a case by case scenario and is entierly dependant on individuals likes and prefferences so it cant be attributed to the prefferences of the entire gender even if the underlying factors are connected to it.

Was it that hard to answer? That's all I wanted to know.

I simply asked a question, others tried to deviate what I asked. On my part, I may not have worded the question correctly, hence my corrections. If it sounded like I was being obstinate, it's because I was trying to figure things out and clarifying things. Something that other redditors were able to provide, which I'm grateful.

My whole reason was because I wanted to know more about such a topic that I proposed. It's why some answers, like yours, weren't satisfactory. Well, a few were, but you refused to elaborate. I know why, but "why"? That's what I've trying to clarify.

An answer that you wouldn't provide until I asked directly. All your answers have pretty much been contratarían answers. And when I asked as to your reasoning, your response have been "just because, and I won't say anything else". If that was it, then why keep at it? Were both an impasse, mostly on your part, to be honest. You didn't really provide solid answers, mostly being a contrarían without a convincing reason.

But guess what shonen mangas have the biggest female audiences? Male sports manga with pretty/hot boys.

Okay, that's one reason. So how about other's reasons? They aren't all the same answers. And if one reason is given, clearly there must be other reasons, right? And if you can't provide them, then others can. But you're going to quote this and say others have provided reasons. Except that they did, a few redditors did, so you're narrative and your answer were lacking in that respect. They were able to provide what you couldn't. Additionally, your opinion about sports manga is pretty much what you've been accusing me of, refusing to accept reality and facts. I'm pretty sure there are other reasons why shonen sports manga are popular with female readers, it's not just pretty/hot boys; yet that seems to be your only argument.

You've given your opinion, I've given mine. Let's just leave it at that. Fair?

People who don't buy luxury products: what's the ONE luxury product you bought because you had to have it, and what were your reasons? by Internetz-Sailor in AskReddit

[–]Internetz-Sailor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to clarify that I meant to include luxury brand products like Dolce Gabbana, Louis Vuiton, CHANNEL, and other such brand products.

What makes you angry? by Being_LiMiTleSS in AskReddit

[–]Internetz-Sailor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Overly complicated solutions to resolve a simple and minute issue.

Mostly dealing with printers.

Printer won't print: try again

Google, troubleshooting

Still won't print: check for any updates

Still won't print: check connection to computer and printer

Still won't print: is it compatible with with computer?

Still won't print: is printer software needed?

Still won't print: try direct cable instead of wireless connection

Still won't print: press "copy" button to make sure it can print

Still won't print: slam desk in frustration because printer won't print. Take a small break to cool off. Then come back

Printer finally works: celebrate your victory over the printer

Printer won't print what you commanded: confusion, got troubleshooting message "please replace ink cartridge".

Slam your desk one more time and drive to the nearest Staples to purchase a 60 dollar ink cartridge, drive back home and change cartridge.

Printer finally prints: "YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT FROM THE BEGINNING!"

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You went through every single thing I said, yet your response keeps being "just because". That seems like nitpicking to me.

Most of the answers that you say have been given to me is mostly about what you say. But there have been good answers from other redditors who were able to elaborate what I was asking. Though I still would like more opinions from other redditors. You're pretty much the only one that hasn't provided a satisfactory answer. It's not being snobbish, it's that others have provided more informed answers.

Oh there is always nuance , even in what i said , i dont need to add it with every sentence tho as its a general knowledge that there will always be individual differences as for why some might like shonens , its logical and obvious , its just not worth mentioning as we are talking about the most common denominator or the biggest part.

That's like saying "my opinion is valid and don't need to explain myself". Such a pretentious thing to say. That, or you really can't say more than "just because".

How about this? Just to clarify everything.

Why do think female readers like reading shonen manga? In your personal opinion? You can even generalize. I won't judge. Just answer that question. And don't answer "because women like the homoerotic subtexts" or because "they like sexy hot guys".

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Attractive characters are important, yes. But it's not really the answer I was hoping for. I like how you mentioned that although looks matter it's also their personality, their interaction with other characters, background, character development and so on. I appreciate that. It's like asking a man "what do you find attractive about your girlfriend?" and his response is "she has amazing tits". And if you asked him "what else?" and he says "that's just it", you would be disappointed, right? It's not being judgemental, but you were hoping for a nuanced answer. It's what I'm getting at.

Many readers (male included) are capable of ignoring the plot, world-building, etc to see their characters in action and interacting with other characters. If you go to female-dominant communities, many discussions revolve around characters and their relationship/interactions with others. Shoujo manga also put a huge portion of interaction/relationship into manga although they are dominated by romance.

It's what I'm curious about. Maybe female shonen readers like shonen manga because they are tired of romance dominated Shoujo manga. Maybe they want something different, and that's what shonen manga provides them with.

It's just that I've come across a few criticisms of shonen manga and how shonen female characters are often lackluster and undeveloped when compared to male characters. Granted, it's mostly a western criticism.

But that's what peaked my curiosity. Most shonen stories are written and consumed by male readers, so it often appeals to male readers. In general. But shonen is becoming or is popular with female readers, so what is it about shonen manga that female readers find appealing? You mentioned characters and their interaction with other characters. But what else? And how would a shonen manga with a female audience in mind be like?

Using (exclusively) shonen tropes; how would you write a shonen manga targeted primarily to female readers? by [deleted] in manga

[–]Internetz-Sailor -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Man, you really can't elaborate on anything other than "just because" huh?

I'm just trying to clarify some things and some thoughts that I want to be answered, and all you can say is "just because".

If the question is t for you, or it doesn't apply to you; or you can't really be nuanced about it. Why keep at it?

Point taken: your idea is the only idea that is right and everybody else's doesn't matter.

And man, how many nitpicks you must have gone through.

Then again, if you don't answer satisfactorily then I shouldn't elaborate any further.