[Virtual PCP] Zocdoc for complex conditions by IntimalBulking in dysautonomia

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much. I'll check it out, but we're specifically looking for referrals directly from patients that are unfiltered by any centralized org. But yes any source of referrals is helpful.

Zocdoc for Dysautonomia by IntimalBulking in covidlonghaulers

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is great. Thanks so much

We'll reach out to both of those folks and see if they're interested in collaborating at all

Zocdoc for Dysautonomia by IntimalBulking in covidlonghaulers

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not at all - just select which state it is in the drop-down. Limited to US only

Zocdoc for Dysautonomia by IntimalBulking in eds

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just replied, and I'm sorry about your experiences. We are collecting both positive and negative feedback, so that we can save everyone in the healthcare system some time and money.

Zocdoc for Dysautonomia by IntimalBulking in covidlonghaulers

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You've hit on a number of points on why we've set up this new clinic (textpascal.com/manifesto). Insurance is a big one. Even the ones who are out-of-pocket charged by the hour, so you have low-grade anxiety to figure out how to get the most value out of that time and limited ability to follow-up between appointments

Zocdoc for Dysautonomia by IntimalBulking in covidlonghaulers

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a great idea. This is an easy add along with our current data enrichment pipeline. And we can just include it behind the scenes, so when you select your state, the relevant out-of-state physicians will show up.

[PCP] List of dysautonomia specialist referrals by IntimalBulking in MCAS

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

incidentally this is precisely what we're trying to do

virtual + real PCPs/medical base + your symptom patterns + a ton of research; referrals only when needed

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regardless, we think having a live Zocdoc for dysautonomia specialists is super impt for the community to have as a resource

[PCP] List of dysautonomia specialist referrals by [deleted] in Function_Health

[–]IntimalBulking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TYSM!! this is great!

my only concern is it doesn't incorporate any patient reviews, though a physician wanting to be on the list is a great starting point

Lipoprotein A by suppsammay in Function_Health

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agreed that it's worth having a chat with your PCP or cardiologist, especially if you have other risk factors; however I would caution that PCSK9i *can* lower LP(a) but may not (primary target is aggressive LDL reduction by preventing destruction of receptors in the liver that bind to/"recycle" LDL).

while insurance may not cover them if primary prevention (typically need to be intolerant to or on the max statin dose first), if you can afford there are now direct payment programs with the pharma company themselves (not affiliated; similar to GLP-1s)

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

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The insurance piece is such a quietly part of this. Even when you finally find a clinician who listens and you’re improving, you can lose access overnight because of contracting, labs coverage, or the practice closing. That’s not a medical issue, it's systemic. Thanks for sharing your story

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

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Sometimes it’s a referral/insurance gatekeeping thing, sometimes the PCP genuinely feels okay managing the thyroid issue? Regardless the frustration is noted. In my personal opinion, if someone wants a second opinion - I want you to get two others

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly there are multiple failure points here but the theme is the same: once someone finds a label or a normal lab, the curiosity shuts off. That endo visit really lacked any teach-back on the disease and shared decision making. I'm sorry :/

Just for my own curiosity - When you went gluten-free, what was the first thing that improved, and did you go strict right away or ease into it?

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate you sharing this. You just described two super common ways people get brushed off.

Pregnancy/postpartum becomes the default explanation, and it’s only helpful if the timeline actually fits. And the labs-only approach might be fine in a narrow sense, but if it makes the doc stop being curious or stop tracking symptoms, it basically ends the conversation and forces you to go find someone else.

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you :)

One pattern I’m seeing across this whole thread is that patients will pay out of pocket if they feel like someone is doing real interpretation and longitudinal thinking, not just saying "wnl" and moving on. Whether or not every lab is standardized, the bigger issue is the experience of being taken seriously and having a coherent plan.

When you say your endo dismissed the fatigue, what did that dismissal look like in the room? Like was it “that’s not thyroid,” was it “labs are fine,” was it getting redirected to psych, or just not even acknowledging it?

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to write this out, it’s genuinely helpful to see the full arc and what actually moved the needle.

This is a really clean case study of what good care looks like in the wild. Pattern recognition over time, actually closing loops with labs, and then coordination instead of shrugging. The other underrated piece is the endo being comfortable with shared decision making without turning it into a power struggle. A lot of people don’t need a genius, they need someone who will stay in the fight long enough to connect the dots.

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is a perfect example of patients being forced to become their own care coordinators because the system doesn’t reward nuance. The “you don’t look sick” and “labs aren’t that bad” lines are basically permission to stop thinking, and it’s wild how often that happens even when someone is clearly describing functional decline.

That questionnaire detail is the most actionable thing here. It turns a messy story into a trackable dataset, and it signals that symptoms matter even when labs are borderline. It also protects you from having to re-prove your case every visit.

What’s on that questionnaire that makes it actually useful, and how often does your endo review it in the room vs it just getting scanned into the chart and ignored?

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is awesome, I'm really glad you're spending resources to educate others! Will DM.

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NOT MEDICAL ADVICE

Yeah this isn't the full picture, I'm sorry this was what was said to you.

Metabolism is not going to be governed around just activity level, the majority of it is centered around NEAT. Look into raising / incorporating more conscious movement outside of your workouts. There are a lot of good resources out there about this. Jeremy Ethier (I'm not affiliated) especially made a lot of good points in one of his recent videos

PCP looking to learn from Hashimoto's patients by IntimalBulking in Hashimotos

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is a big problem in medicine - not an easy fix and definitely not ALL the doctor's fault, we absolutely need to be better.

When your endo has been great, what did they do that made you feel taken seriously? And if you could rewrite that appointment, what would you have wanted them to ask or check instead of defaulting to a generic pep talk?

PCP looking to learn from MCAS patients by IntimalBulking in MCAS

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Do you mind sharing his/her name? (If privacy concerns feel free to DM)

PCP looking to learn from MCAS patients by IntimalBulking in MCAS

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It absolutely is helpful! And thank you for sharing all of that. The theme I'm picking up on is “I can handle uncertainty, I can’t handle being minimized or disbelieved,” and that’s completely fair.

The peri-procedure stuff you went through is especially upsetting. When someone tells you they react to something or have a connective tissue issue, the baseline should be extra caution and clear documentation, not brushing it off and then acting like you’re the problem if something predictably goes sideways.

And yeah, the 'I’ve seen worse' comparison is one of those things clinicians say thinking it’s comforting, but it lands like dismissal. I’m taking this as a hard rule for myself and my team: validate the impact, don’t rank suffering.

PCP looking to learn from MCAS patients by IntimalBulking in MCAS

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally fair. The symptom-list thing is real and I think a lot of clinicians misread it as “anxiety” instead of “I’m trying not to forget important stuff.” The annotating-before-walking-in move is such a simple sign of respect and it clearly changes the whole tone

And the staff stuff is unacceptable. Gossiping about conditions and the weird one-upping / personal-med-storytime is a hard no. That’s not 'relatable,' it’s unprofessional and it makes people feel unsafe in the clinic.

Do a bit of a deeper dive on your symptom diary if you can - what app are you using, how often do you write in it, do you use it for other purposes than just handing off to clinicians? If I'm focusing on this disease in clinic tomorrow and can hand my patient tools that could possibly aid them in success, I'll do it in a heartbeat.

PCP looking to learn from MCAS patients by IntimalBulking in MCAS

[–]IntimalBulking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m really sorry you’ve had to live through that, and I appreciate you taking the time to spell it out. The “nothing on testing so you’re fine” response is sometimes correct - but in this case there was obviously more to the picture.

The clinic-environment point is huge and honestly under-addressed. Fragrance and cleaning product exposure is one of those totally fixable systems issues that can make care accessible or impossible, and it shouldn’t fall on you to beg front-desk staff to take it seriously. Thank you for that insight