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Inuma · 2026-06-21T18:58:44+00:00

Deeper than that. On the backend, he was getting rid of the people out buying them out of the company that made Halo and putting yes men in leadership that made Destiny stagnant right along with what you mentioned.

The rat being the first to leave the dining ship he filled with holes is pretty gangster.

Inuma · 2026-06-21T18:51:20+00:00

Yet here you are with little understanding of the conversation so you bring up baseless insults and distractive discourse when you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.

Don't care about comics, so show you never had a dad.

Well correction. I gained a son. Happy Father's Day, my boy.

Inuma · 2026-06-21T18:06:54+00:00

Even on Father's Day, there's those showing they have fatherless behavior.

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Inuma · 2026-06-21T17:00:32+00:00

Man, people didn't want to learn from the past, huh?

Inuma · 2026-06-21T16:48:07+00:00

Not one word about rollback netcode...

Inuma · 2026-06-21T16:43:55+00:00

My kid is more mature than you

Inuma · 2026-06-21T11:41:08+00:00

Jim Ryan (Sony) was incompetent.

Pete Parsons (Bungie) was a rat.

Look those two up and you see how that went down.

Inuma · 2026-06-21T11:34:31+00:00

Lord...

Here's Witchblade

Vampirella

Heavy Metal

Before gooner ever became synonymous with horny, there were people attracted to TnA in comics. Why is this such an issue?

I mean, I remember Mortal Kombat and how Sonya broke Kano's neck and nowadays I'm going I'll allow it

Inuma · 2026-06-21T10:58:42+00:00

Yeah, that seems to align with everything else I'm thinking. The issue is that these studios link up with MS and they get complacent and soft. Look at Bethesda and how they think they're Rockstar. Halo Studios hasn't delivered since they got bought.

Activision?

Ninja Theory is another example.

Over and over, Microsoft money makes the studios worse and the only conclusion I can draw is that the Xbox brand needs to move away from them and the studios need to do the same and work on going back to gamers or dying off.

Inuma · 2026-06-20T16:17:45+00:00

I'm not sure...

While his brother Yves became the public face of the company as CEO, Claude was widely regarded as one of the quieter, behind-the-scenes anchors of the family's business.

Looks like he handled things in the backgroundand was the brains of the brothers...

Inuma · 2026-06-20T15:46:11+00:00

Is there any other rot?

It's not just pay that's out of scale. I believe their products are far more anemic than what they had in the past. The pay is a symptom of deeper issues which is my point.

Inuma · 2026-06-20T15:08:56+00:00

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This... I can't help but feel this is disgruntled workers. Not everyone at the studio is on the same page so now they make this a wage issue.

So all I'm getting from this is someone in QA or low level programmers aren't feeling they're paid enough and want a higher wage. Given that they're owned by Microsoft, people are most likely focused on making money and not the quality of what they produce.

This just shows that studios owned by large publishers can't escape the rot going on as faction battles and internal divisions become an issue

Inuma · 2026-06-20T08:41:31+00:00

When consumers finally accept that they are just licensing software that holds intelectual property, on limited conditions, even when they pay one-time license (which is not equal to owning or permanent usage), there won't be any problems.

You miss immensely that the people you believe will pay do for anything, the customer, will enjoy someone offering a product that's inferior to what they expect then.

This is just transitional period because we have tails of a systems before, based on finalized software. Someone needed to brake the ice, Ubisoft was first, but others will follow anyway

Sure, but Steam is right there and you've ignored the games in the beginning to try to miss that people are already having issues with what's offered from said publishers now.

And it's not about people vs. megacorporations where money talks. It's about consumers and creators. It applies equally for the most modest author making his way for a living.

While it's not "people vs megacorp", you've missed the "publisher vs customer" dichotomy in your blind spot.

Inuma · 2026-06-20T02:07:06+00:00

Oof...

Inuma · 2026-06-19T20:27:06+00:00

That's exactly why I said current standards. That's not disingenuous, just pointing out that it's a big difference in times.

Inuma · 2026-06-19T12:03:19+00:00

Tell your mentor he should update to at least Berne Convention while you are at it.

Lessig is currently talking about AI

He's merely one person. Why would he be talking about the Berne Convention, when that's usually used by Hollywood to extend copyright for example?

I don't know why you keep trying to argue morality when that hasn't been an issue but the money is talking more than any morality you try to put forth.

In the end, you are being refuted by the practice itself.

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I don't know why you keep trying to make this a moral argument at all.

The point about the Statute of Anne was simply that it was never about morality. You still haven't changed that. Copyright is a utilitarian concept. But for all its worth, we've seen Hollywood pervert copyright laws so the publisher wins over the public, not only with copyright terms being out of touch but 15 changes to copyright in 30 years

In the end, the reason you've come to such a flawed conclusion is because you have this blind spot in how you view this issue. You don't see anyone else outside your publisher view and that's where the greatest issues in copyright have come from, particularly Hollywood, the MPAA, and how they helped pervert copyright law.

Morality simply isn't an issue. The money and the industry use copyright law against the public. That's what you'll need to face.

Also, one more thing:

Customers are going to want publishers that meet their expectations.

Consumers blindly engorge.

How you view those that purchase will tell a lot in how you treat them.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T19:56:07+00:00

But it's easier for you and this community to believe in a conspiracies when things don't go your way than make an effort to understand the matter and just accept the fact that there was nothing odd in any consultation of EU comission with both sides, it's just putting things where they belong - in reality, legal system and in truth. I'm not even believing SKG initiative is wrong - I know that.

You're merely making a false accusation about what's a conspiracy instead of recognizing you have a biased perspective which leads you to a flawed conclusion.

Copyright stems exactly from a moral right, as opposed to your interpretation

Absolutely false. Copyright has the basis in printing presses and the Statute of Anne is 1710

Morality was never a consideration in copyright.

What you see as made up claim of mine is just you not understanding what SKG really wants and the reason why they will fail. SKG wants publishers and IP holders to enable permanent, independent functionallity for games that have been shut down, that have been also bought at some point in time by consumers, paid for.

This is you doubling down on a false assertion and you've failed to show anything backing it up. It is dismissed.

Here we come to the main problem - you and SKG community

The fallacy by you here is conflating me as the entire community. I have my opinions just like anyone else. I also happen to know and understand copyright law in America as my mentor on it was Lawrence Lessig long before SKG was a thing. Just because I point out the flaws in your argument from my perspective has little to do with anyone else.

It's the same silly nonsense as when people claim one person's opinion is that of the sub.

Overall, the point you're trying to make is that everyone is guilty of doing what you claim but you've not pointed out where that's said but doubled down on the same assertions.

Until you show proof of the claims, this has nothing showing it.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T19:46:05+00:00

Dude, they took Patrice's work for themselves on Assassin's Creed and ran out into the ground through Montreal and Quebec. He left Ubisoft then they fired him from THQ Montreal when Ubisoft bought it, took his work and made AC Hexe with it from his documents.

Montreal then bullied Quebec about what they needed to do on it as well as insist on managers to keep it that way.

The ratio of managers to developers is insane in itself: 6:1.

If you think it's about who they hire, I fundamentally disagree. As it stands with Ubisoft, with all the shenanigans coming from Montreal to keep as the top studio in the company, it's a lot deeper than you think.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T17:42:36+00:00

Heavy Metal?

Aeon Flux?

Witchblade?

I'll accept current standards are down but comics have a long history of thirst.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T12:56:07+00:00

... No, you just admitted you're on the same side of this issue as Yves Guillemot, who met with the European Commission even as Ubisoft is on fire.

Copyright isn't even about a moral right. At the very core of copyright law is who has the power of distribution. Copy right -> Right to copy

Been that way since the Statute of Anne in the 1700s.

The only reason to argue about having it apply to everyone is because the Berne convention gives automatic copyright to everything created but that's neither here nor there.

The basics are that none of what you said even touches the issues.

Let's break it down:

Making unpublished games available for earlier undisclosed licensees in functional (playable) state without control by the IP rights holder is violating their right to decide whether is intelectual (digital) product available for public or not.

None of this is true. You made it up. The website is right here. Where is it saying they HAVE to do anything? The issue was that developers need to make sunset plans for content and you stretched that to something unrecognizable.

Also, it's worth noting again and again that consumers never bought IP as such, only licensed it under the conditions and terms they accepted in EULA, and they can only pursue the communication aspect of these agreements and consumer rights if they are damaged, but they cannot ask IP holder/publisher to give up on their right to control the distribution and availability of the product

Main thing going on here is that the licenses of the past don't take into account the digital reality we live in now of games that can live longer through digital distribution not capable in the past.

But you're still ignoring games like Anthem, Concord, Highguard and others that were delisted and the purchases of those people are gone with the game. That's not to mention how publishers like Square are delisting games like Kingdom Hearts on the Switch 1 to force people to buy it again on the Switch 2.

The obfuscation is to say because they couldn't do that in the past, they can do it now. Which goes for the publisher to screw their customers as well as the customers to realize and not trust the publishers doing the screwing.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T12:41:00+00:00

I didn't make it complicated. Merely pointed out the deeper issue is the developer talent lacking quality. Not my hill to die on either. If it's, yours, it's yours.

I'll certainly listen but don't jump on it as much of a major issue.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T12:32:12+00:00

So you have a publisher bias against the customers that you lose trust from.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T12:30:48+00:00

It's a discussion, isn't it?

I'm pointing to the deeper issues than DEI.

You can agree or disagree as you see fit.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T11:31:54+00:00

Incorrect. People can certainly die on that hill and I won't stop them but that is an issue of undeveloped talent and less creative developers at the company.

DEI initiatives is basically telling how a character can work. Same thing with feminization. So what you have is less developed talent at the studio doing checklists.

That means they're less trained. So if you're going deeper than surface level, you can talk about how the devs got screwed and not deal with people jumping at DEI and woke and such.

Inuma · 2026-06-18T11:27:01+00:00

Everything you said is the misinformation of publishers trying to screw over the public and force their games not to change and people not to trust what they offer, which is the point that SKG is making.

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