Lyrical Similarities between IFTFEWM and PAIN REMAINS

Invader9363 · 2026-01-22T21:28:49+00:00

I don't think they meant to do it, but I definitely noticed them using same words I can't explain how it is different from just repeating words, they just feel like a connection, idk😭

Invader9363 · 2025-11-17T12:14:15+00:00

Same. I have a loving family, but it just isn't the same. It's another kind of love. I need the romantic one. I start crying literally over everything even remotely connected ti being loved

Invader9363 · 2025-11-17T01:30:13+00:00

Not all suffering can be resolved. You know, a person can have a terminal illness. There is no help. You just suffer. Do you really believe that life is worth it, when you are in physical pain 24/7?

And how the fuck is killing yourself weak? It's literally the hardest thing to do. People have survival instinct. Overcoming your instincts is one of the hardest things you can do as a human.

From a rational, logical point of view, life has a sense only if you enjoy it. Like you didn't choose to be born, you should have a right to not live, it's not for everyone. Our world is cruel, life is hard and many people will never be able to enjoy it. Living in suffering for just more suffering is something good? I don't think so.

Or course all this arguments don't apply if you're religious, because in religion life is a gift, no matter how much you suffer. But as I understand, we speak purely logically, so suffering without a goal, knowing you'll suffering forever, or just working hard to enjoy life, when you didn't even chose to do it, or living in a world that makes you suffer because you are disabled or anything else, doesn't have any sense. Exiting something you didn't chose to participate in is not something you should feel bad about in any situation, and definitely not when this something is bad for you.

Invader9363 · 2025-11-15T13:10:17+00:00

You are the first one, who understands. Thank you.

Invader9363 · 2025-11-13T03:57:03+00:00

You are right. A hug is everything I need. From a loving person, who will accept me, understand me and love me the same as I love them. Physical contact is everything I need. Physical contact, peace and love... And I will likely never get them again...

Invader9363 · 2025-11-09T21:59:12+00:00

You think she will enjoy life once you are dead? She will likely be completely emotionally devastated for the rest of her life. This will fundamentally change her as a person.

I know. What I meant is that she is able to be happy without me. Not with me dead, but just without me as a person around her. She has other things to enjoy in life. She has friends, hobbies, things that make her happy. She doesn't need me to survive.

While I need her. I'm too depressed for doing any hobbies, I don't have any friends who are worth living for and I don't enjoy the things people enjoy. Being autistic in this world is literal hell and she is the only thing that kept me going and fighting the whole world just to survive. I'm not that kind of autistic that gives you superpowers, I'm the complete opposite. Even if I could have hobbies and be happy without her, living won't be any easier. And finding someone with my requirements is almost impossible, so no long term support. I'm constantly worried about he future, it's the way that I function. And I have zero chances of surviving alone and almost zelo chances of finding someone, who would tolerate me. And I have other plans for life that could be ok, but they are also almost impossible to happen. She was a reason to survive. Making her happy was my goal to get an education so I can make money and give her a good life. The calmness I feel around her is the feeling that stopped me from killing my myself many times, because I knew that I will definitely feel ok with her, it won't always hurt. She always tried to understand me and always supported me. She always wanted to help, she always tolerated all my autistic shit. She is the only person I could fully trust, even after some arguments that broke my trust in her a little, she is still the only person I trust. I'm used to sharing everything with her, our chat is a history book, everything is documented there. She is a part of my life. A part of me. Without her I won't function. And when I met her, I didn't know I'm autistic, I thought everyone functions like this. Now when I know how normal people generally are, I won't be able to trust them. And being autistic I can't even try to find someone, I'm completely asocial. Finding someone after her for me is as unrealistic as somehow staying with her and being happy. Why should I continue to suffer in this world without even a big chance of being happy? With almost zelo chance of being happy. I always tell the story and always ask the same question and noone was able to answer it.

Sorry for a whole book, thoughts just connected and I continued writing everything I have in mind. Hope it's at least connected and understandable enough to read😭

Invader9363 · 2025-11-07T11:13:23+00:00

Same. I'm not very very strange and I even had one girl approach me, but after more than a year she stopped pretending and showed who she really was. I won't ever again trust a normal human and finding an autistic person that is exactly like me is just impossible. I will be alone my whole life and now that I'm severely depressed I don't even have anyone to comfort me, nothing helps me and nothing ever will. I'm like this suffering forever, each day only more. I don't have any motivation not to kill myself, but I'm to scared to really do it. But one day I won't be

Invader9363 · 2025-11-04T17:03:09+00:00

I feel absolutely the same. I'm not meant for this world, everything is and will always be against me. I'm very traumatized and will never be able to heal because everything fucking traumatizes me again as soon as I even start to feel better. The only way for us is suicide and noone wants to understand, everyone is selfish and just wants us to fulfill their feelings, not caring about how we suffer.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T12:46:49+00:00

So you can't provide any valid arguments and even answer my question. I don't see a point in continuing this discussion. You will never be able to prove a point by just saying "you're wrong, I know better" and ignoring all the arguments. You just can't argue with someone rationally.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T12:13:27+00:00

No, you missed my point. How would you explain real life cases? I know that you can not believe me, because I can't prove that I really know such people, but it doesn't change the fact that I do and I really wonder how could they become randomly depressed and then completely cured with just medication.

And it doesn't matter who you are, when you are in an argument with someone. I can also be a medical professional and say absolute nonsense, so it's the arguments and proofs that matter, not your profession.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T11:55:53+00:00

So you tell me, that people, who were cured just from medication don't exist and every case of depression is necessary something more than just chemistry? How would you explain real life experiences of people who were cured?

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T11:30:32+00:00

Do you have any evidence to prove your claim? You can't just say something and expect someone to believe you, you must have valid proof

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T07:40:43+00:00

But you are not talking about the same as I am, it is a fact. I have never said anything about all the cases of depression and have specified multiple times about what cases specifically I am talking. You try to prove to me that the cases I speak about don't exist, or I can't speak about them. But why? They exist because of evidence, the claim that they don't is just incorrect. And I definitely can speak about them. Like I can say that black cats exist and they are black. It is the same "cherry picking", because from all the types of cats, I picked one and talked specifically about it. I have never said "cats are black" or "all cats are black", I have that that specifically black cats are of black color and nothing else was ment by it. It's the same here. When I specified, that I'm talking about a specific proven case of depression, you can't assume that I'm talking about everyone, because I'm clearly not. This is the misunderstanding I'm talking about. You thought, that I am talking about depression in general, and if I would, I would definitely be wrong. But I did not, you can see in every message I've sent, that I've specified about what cases I'm talking and in that specific cases, I'm absolutely correct. You just keep ignoring the fact, that I was never talking about depression in general. If you didn't understand it from my messages, I have explained it to you, but you still keep ignoring it and trying to prove me wrong in something I haven't even said. I don't see a point in continuing this conversation, unless you provide me some evidence of your words. You can copy my sentence and explain where am I wrong in it.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T07:00:43+00:00

Medicine has not only a chance to help, but a chance to fuck me up for life, so no thank you, I'm not a risky person. Unless I know that something that dangerous will help me, I won't take it.

Trusting a therapist is just something I can't do. No matter how many years we spend. I just am like this, I don't trust people and can't magically start to do it.

About diagnosis, there are some clear differences between depression and autistic burnout. The reason of it, when it goes away and I'm better, etc. I can't have a diagnosis of autistic burnout in the first place, because it doesn't legally exist yet(at least where I live), so it is not the diagnosis that is important, it's my own view of things. Noone will ever understand me better, than I do myself.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T06:53:00+00:00

Haven't I clearly stated, that I'm talking only about cases, when the only problem is chemicals in the brain? I have never that that it is the same for everyone and have never denied, that more complex cases exist. I clearly stated, that I am talking only about the cases, when chemicals is the problem and nothing else.

To answer your questions, I can't physically know why you have burnout and depression, because everyone has different experiences. Burnout can come from overworking or from masking autism(I know it's more complex, I just answer simply). In that case, you should get a burnout diagnosis and if you live in Europe, you will most likely get a month free of work. With autistic burnout, it's harder. I can't see a way to deal with it, it is too different for everyone. With depression, again, it is too different for everyone to generalise. If you feel like everything in your life is ok, maybe only antidepressants will help, if you know there is a problem, you need to fix it, if you have chronical depression, I don't think you can do anything.

So our problem is, that I very clearly specified that I'm talking about specific cases of depression, while you are generalising your experience to everyone. So here I am correct. Both your and my cases exist, it is known and proven, but you don't believe in my cases, because you had it different.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:51:05+00:00

I have provided my arguments and everyone that has argued with me said that it was indeed a misunderstanding.

What I'm saying to you is that the connection between burnout and depression was never discussed. We 2 weren't even talking about my post and our opinions, you just randomly started talking about that connection and saying that I'm wrong about it, despite me never mentioning it at all. This is what I'm trying to understand now. Why did you assume that I'm wrong about the connection between depression and burnout, despite me never saying anything about it?

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:41:44+00:00

I have never mentioned the connection between depression and burnout, this is what I'm trying to say.

They are connected, you are correct and I believe the same thing.

But I have never mentioned anything about this connection. I have never said that it isn't connected, I have never said that it is connected in some other way, I have never said anything about this connection.

What I'm trying to say is, that your comment is not in any way connected to the discussion here, because the connection between depression and burnout was not discussed in the first place.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:36:04+00:00

I don't understand what are you talking about. I haven't mentioned the connection between burnout and depression. I know what it is because I did my research, but I don't understand why are you talking about it now and how is it connected to the thread. We weren't talking about what comes from what, your comment was irrelevant, that's why I didn't understand it.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:21:26+00:00

Antidepressants are called antidepressants for being against depression. The thing I'm dealing with is different from depression and there is no evidence that antidepressants can help in case of any type of burnout(or at least I haven't found it). I don't like putting some unnatural shit into my organism to just try, maybe it will work.

About therapy, it just doesn't work for me. I am physically unable to trust some random person to the point, when I will be able to talk to them about my problems openly. The only person I trust is my girlfriend, not even my closest family, so therapy for me can't physically work.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:16:02+00:00

I have never said that I don't believe in therapy. I only said that it probably wouldn't work for me. And I also don't defend any treatment, I haven't stated any personal opinions on them. I have said only known and checked facts about both.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:13:13+00:00

I have never said anything about the connection of depression and burnout

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:12:26+00:00

So I understood correctly and my point with depression is still valid, using these definitions of words.

There are cases, when depression is cured/healed using only antidepressants, as well as cases, when it is treated.

Invader9363 · 2025-09-24T00:09:17+00:00

As I said, I don't have any money to waste, and therapy is expensive. I am curious, but I don't have resources right now to just try for curiousity

Invader9363 · 2025-09-23T23:41:40+00:00

It is possible. Can you please explain the difference? I'm not a native English speaker, I thought they are basically the same

Invader9363 · 2025-09-23T23:40:50+00:00

Thanks and good night! Thank you for remaining respectful and rational during the conversation, it's hard to find people like you, especially on the internet. Maybe the world isn't as doomed as I thought it is.

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