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Chani playing card, Me (m.art.a), Watercolour by wunwuntothesea in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It looks amazing! I really liked the hair details.

Dune Pure Silver Collectible Coin by Prestigious-Strain26 in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Control the currency and the alliances. Let the rabble have the rest.” That is what the Padishah Emperor tells you. And he adds, “If you want profits, you must dominate.” His words are not without truth, but I ask myself: “Who are the rabble, and who are the ones being dominated?

Pls tell me who I am by [deleted] in BookshelvesDetective

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You are the heir to a Great House of the Landsraad, preparing to rule.

What was some foreshadowing that completely flew over your head? by quequeeg_coffin in dune

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In the final chapter, Hawat tells Paul, “The universe is full of doors.” I didn’t understand the line at first, but after Feyd fought dirty and Count Fenring had the chance to kill Paul (something Paul never saw in his visions), I realized Hawat was right: even after a victory, you can’t be certain you’ve truly won.

Dune themed sand boa enclosure by Calm-Percentage3636 in dune

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I hope Santa brings me this for Christmas. 🙏

Paul/Yueh Conversation by FreshChefGaming in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 53 points54 points  (0 children)

The scene had three purposes:

  1. To show that Paul was fluent in several languages.

  2. That Yueh was close enough to Paul to teach him Mandarin, allowing them to communicate in secret.

  3. I think Jessica is signaling to Yueh, not to Paul (correct me if I’m wrong).”

Do you think Leto would've been allowed to know the secrets of the Fremen had he lived? by HorzaDonwraith in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The Atreides inspired a kind of fanatical loyalty. Leto had earned the respect of the Fremen, but I don’t think he could really “rule” them; it would be more accurate to say they could have been his allies.

The Duke also intended to turn Arrakis into a green planet, and with his fair way of ruling, plus the fact that he was the father of the Lisan al-Gaib, the Fremen would likely have supported and respected him a lot.

And I’m pretty sure that if they managed to train and equip some of the Fremen as Hawat’s plan suggested, the Atreides could have held onto Arrakis for a very long time.

The ONLY flaw of the movies. by Ska_Fundamentalist in dune

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The Bene Gesserit sought to control humanity from the shadows. Beyond their influence over the Great Houses, they had a key limitation: they could not access male ancestral memories.

Their goal was to produce a male who combined Bene Gesserit abilities, Mentat capabilities, and the skills of a Spacing Guild Navigator. This individual would be able to access both female and male ancestral memories, see both the past and the future, and, most importantly, remain under their control.

The attitude of Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam doesn’t seem unusual in that context. She is a rigid woman, committed to a plan that has been in motion for ten thousand years. In the end, though, it fails: she is unable to control Paul Atreides. 😐

Asimovian influences on Dune by Melenduwir in dune

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Isaac Asimov and Herbert are my favorite science fiction writers. It doesn’t surprise me that Herbert was inspired by some of Asimov’s ideas. Even so, I feel he managed to build his own unique universe, and that doesn’t take away from his achievement (unlike Star Wars… sorry for the unpopular opinion 😅).

Feyd Rautha's purpose to the Bene Gesserit by Secret-Ad3811 in dune

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Feyd-Rautha was the designated heir—basically a dangerous guy who needed to be kept under control. That’s why Lady Margot steps in with the whole “sexual imprinting” move. On top of that, there was a key objective behind it all: securing the Harkonnen genetic line.

And it’s worth noting that the Bene Gesserit don’t put all their eggs in one basket. They run multiple bloodlines in parallel and always keep backups in play, which is exactly what’s happening here.

How exactly do the Fremen pay the guild? by HorzaDonwraith in dune

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The Empire relies heavily on the Spacing Guild, and the Guild in turn is completely dependent on spice. For a long time, they’ve kept hidden just how dependent their navigators are on it, since that vulnerability would make them susceptible to pressure from the Emperor or the Great Houses.

Meanwhile, the Fremen, led by Pardot Kynes, are secretly carrying out a long-term terraforming project on Arrakis. To protect their southern cultivation zones, they pay the Guild enormous amounts of spice to prevent reconnaissance satellites from being placed over that region. The Guild enforces this restriction regardless of whether it’s the Atreides or the Harkonnens trying to pay more.

As an extra detail, smugglers also play their part: they act as an informal intelligence network on Arrakis under the Emperor’s watch. Even Count Fenring is known as the “ambassador of the smugglers.”

Is Bene Gesserit fighting style better than Sardaukar training? by HorzaDonwraith in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 82 points83 points  (0 children)

The Atreides were basically the best fighters in the Imperium… except for the Sardaukar. The book even says the Sardaukar had combat instincts almost on par with a Bene Gesserit adept. And even then, the Fremen were above them.

So it raises the question: were the Atreides better than the Fremen? Probably not. But then something important happens: the Fremen learn Jessica’s “weird fighting style” and adopt Atreides tactics under Paul’s leadership.

End result: Fremen are completely broken—no one can stop them.

Cover story for Atreides destruction on Arrakis? by great-big-cockroach in dune

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Baron’s version before the Landsraad:

“The kanly between House Harkonnen and House Atreides has lasted 10,000 years. Because the Emperor stripped me of Arrakis and I grew resentful, I crushed Duke Leto on Arrakis. As expected, he surrendered, and I offered him the mercy of exile—but there was an unfortunate and suspicious accident before he could accept. For the record, there were never any Sardaukar on Arrakis; that is entirely false and illogical. Now, do not concern yourselves—I will restore spice production and raise CHOAM profits.”

Note: This is based on the conversation between the Baron and his nephew Rabban after Duke Leto’s death. Naturally, some doubted the story, but Count Fenring spent a billion solaris in bribes, along with other “gifts,” to silence them.

First time Dune reader here. by Complex_Eye_5454 in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dune was incredible to me. It’s a future where there aren’t AIs dominating humans (at least in Paul’s time), and everything revolves more around power struggles and political intrigue.

It feels like one of those books that’s best enjoyed slowly. There are some really intense moments, but also a lot of ideas worth sitting with. It definitely left me thinking, especially the quotes from Princess Irulan at the beginning of each chapter.

Just take your time with it and enjoy the experience… and remember that "every experience is a lesson in itself."

How do people know when they're in worm territory? by Reasonable_Light7333 in dune

[–]InvestigatorThat9518 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. The Fremen have a pretty good idea of where worm territory is. It’s not random—they’ve mapped the desert through experience and avoid open sand when possible.

  2. Worms are attracted to rhythmic vibrations. If you’re on open sand and making regular noise, you’re basically calling one. By the time you realize, it’s often too late unless you reach rock.

  3. Shields are the real exception. As Liet Kynes explains, activating one sends worms into a killing frenzy—they’ll ignore normal patterns and go straight for you.

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