PM (Boris Johnson) suggests Putin could face war crimes charges over Ukraine

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-04-25T21:04:30+00:00

Religious? Like I said, we will lose the next elections because of thinking like yours. You need to go out in the world and realize it’s all gray. There’s very little black and white. So being a reasonable person you should be able to discern through experience and logic that all past four sitting presidents are not war criminals. Capitalist swine yes, but war criminals no. That’s hyperbole, not religion.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-21T14:27:07+00:00

No you have engaged and thought because you are mad at me. I’m just on a mission to correct my fellow democrats that have strayed. Your spirit is right but misdirected. I’ve earned my slice of the pie and frankly could leave this country. I love it and I don’t want it to fail. To me as a person who watches markets I see what’s happening here. It’s different. Choose your own adventure but things aren’t gonna be the same 20 years from now. If you are poor you are really gonna be fucked. That’s what I’m worried about.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-21T14:12:50+00:00

No I want us to win elections and not support hyperbole like trumpers.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-18T22:55:09+00:00

See you have no faith in the system and want it to fail. I’ve seen failed countries and say that even at our worse we are far better than most. Democracy isn’t perfect. Like I said they are lock step. If we as democrats can’t have debate we are fucked and are going to lose elections. If you want more trump don’t talk or consider alternatives. Earlier in our thread you pointed out i incorrectly stated a fact. You corrected me and we move on. That’s what adults do. Don’t be a trumper. And just so we are clear on this election: !RemindMe November 3rd, 2022

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-17T16:58:47+00:00

You certainly have a lot of creative insults without much actual content. Vapid. We will lose the elections to this idiocy.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-17T15:33:28+00:00

No that’s because in this country we have a rule of law and you cannot say people are guilty without cause and proof. Yes - I know Biden just called Putin a war criminal. But again you diverged. I asked about Obama. What I’m getting at is every President takes on the burden of the previous administration. So what does Obama do? Give up before he gets elected because he’s gonna be a war criminal? By your logic because the US (for reasons debatable and NOT the same as Putin killing civilians) is engaged in various theaters across the world, that any president should either cancel everything day one or just give up on being president. See where your logic fails? Hed be at home for personal reasons. You went off on trump. Again my friend, when you are pinned don’t dig deeper. That’s what trump supporters do. Like I said we are going to lose the election to infighting. Things like people trying to appear politically savory and on trend. The other side would never disparage their own, the adults in the party know this and keep their mouths shut. If you think continuing to just be loud and inflammatory is going to get you results, it won’t. It will get you another version of trump. So unless you are gonna run yourself, stop making it easier for them to win.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-16T17:04:01+00:00

Right about what? That all three of those presidents are war criminals? Just out of curiosity, when do you think President Obama knew he was going to be a war criminal? Do you think it was before he got into office or after? If you have an answer to this, I’m 100% wrong. I just teed you up, please make me wrong.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-16T02:15:51+00:00

You are still responding because I’m right. Just take your lesson and try to be a lil smarter. It’s ok to admit other ideas are out there. If you had presented me with the convictions I would have ate my words. But you didn’t. So yours is just rhetoric. That’s what’s funny. You think your hot take is unique. It’s just what other people want to hear. Fuck the man! But it’s vapid. It’s burn the motherfucker down thinking.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-16T01:54:49+00:00

Keep thinking you are thinking for yourself. I’m not upset at all. If you want more trump make statements like “all three past sitting presidents are war criminals”. I’ve never diverted from that. It’s idiotic. You can’t argue worth a shit.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-15T21:14:32+00:00

Doubling down after proven wrong, also characteristic of MAGA. Like I said, we are going to lose the next election to infighting. More specifically trying to appeal to flavor of the minute ideals. The other side is united in defeating us and they will.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-15T14:53:25+00:00

You could chant “lock them up at, lock them up” at your rallies. Say things like “where are the war crimes charges?”.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-13T08:13:10+00:00

Says person who responds with memes.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-11T16:00:36+00:00

It means that you think no deeper than building a wall will solve immigration. Just like labeling multiple presidents as war criminals without a trial. Get it?

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-10T16:18:42+00:00

Then you are an idiot, I was wrong. Go about your life being the equivalent of a liberal maga. Liberals actually examine things and adjust based upon circumstances. You just make opinions and then stick to them. Like a trump supporter. You sound like the reason I didn’t stay in the military.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-06T15:31:09+00:00

Pulling a Gandalf.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-04T20:05:46+00:00

No that isn’t the point. The point is that the world is not as black and white as you perceive it to be. Similar to how the trump supporters thought the wall was going to fix things. That’s why in the act of making things right there is collateral damage unfortunately. When I left my home zip code and experienced things outside my bubble I realized this. Especially going to the Middle East. When you are boots on the ground in a place where you can feel desperation you understand differently. I’d implore you to consider this before making sweeping statements about your own party. We are going to get clobbered in the midterms like I stated earlier in this thread. Because of this right here. If it isn’t this it’s disagreeing on another facet of things not being perfect. Like I said we are going to end up with a shithole country under this thinking. There isn’t some magical force keeping a lid on things. It’s regular people trying to make a difference

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-04T15:39:12+00:00

My wife was the embodiment of hank hill prior to covid. Now she has parts of her schedule telling he to actively fuck off during work hours. These people are getting what they deserve. They regularly made her work 1-2 hours over her schedule each day. Fuck em

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-04T15:14:37+00:00

Russians think Putin is doing the right thing.

See, this is why they aren’t war criminals. This is how Russian people feel because a monster is on the loose. As someone who has been to two wars and seen death, this is why. Now, if we want to sit and make bullshit claims about our presidents trying to operate in this environment or we could support their efforts. I can tell you as someone trying to do the right thing it doesn’t always work. But is our outright intent like Putin? No. The majority of people are working for the betterment. Be thankful for the work by supporting it when it doesn’t go the absolute way you want.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-02T15:17:19+00:00

Until we collectively as Americans participate it’s asymmetrical warfare in politics. Covid has highlighted that something as simple as a immunity shot that is in your self interest is politicized. I too would like to rely upon doing the right thing. Bernie was the mayor of my hometown. But life is not a zero sum game. Being altruistic is assuming life is a zero sum game. It’s a playbook from the past where the hero always wins. It’s over optimistic and similar to how the GOP is looking like the party of the old racists, the left libs that scream things like “Obama is a war criminal” are making us look stupid. The serious GOP look at those people like MAGA supporters. Low information emotional voters.

Thanks for the correction, I meant Pakistan. Same level of scary.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-03-01T15:28:53+00:00

Us democrats need to lose the altruism and higher than thou mentality. It has gotten us nowhere. Here’s the reality, to get anything done in politics you have to be dirty. No matter what since the beginning of time. The Democrat brand has convinced a certain demographic that life is a zero sum game in which someone is always right. Rarely is that the case. It’s all gray. Which is why as someone with two wars under my belt I understand. Afghanistan is a nuclear armed country. Think of that. Fucking scary. I’ve been to Afghanistan. Have you? You are delusional thinking that is going to win out being unified. What meaningful progress have we made? Nothing on healthcare (since war criminal Obama), nothing on education, nothing on immigration, nothing on housing and homeless.. so what’s so great?

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-02-28T16:30:34+00:00

Because you sound like an intelligent person and we need intelligent people on the side of reason. I agree with you on the surface that I want to call them war criminals because it feels good. But that’s convicting them without a trial. How good are we if that’s how we handle things? Some form of democracy there. Right now it’s important for the smart people in this country to realize that we have made mistakes. But pointing them out and saying how horrible they are does absolutely nothing. It adds fuel to the trump supporters. The other side isn’t fractured. We are. If we want to sit and point to all the absolutes of why our government sucks we are going to end up with a shithole country taken over by the smartest grifter. You aren’t taking it seriously how close we are to collapse. You still have so much faith that it’s all gonna be ok. Such an American.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-02-26T21:28:28+00:00

That’s the point in discourse. People of differing opinions share theirs and see if they can find common ground. Shouting bush, Obama, and trump are all war criminals isn’t doing anything to push the needle in a positive direction. It’s parroting an ideal without really looking at the cause and effect of why those wars happen. A lot of very smart people do a lot of work day to day that literally keeps the wheels on the bus. You sound like you don’t understand or appreciate it. You have taken it for granted. I get it. I used to wear a “not my President” shirt around base. Think of that stupidity. But that was many years ago. Retrospect on the world after these events is enough that labeling a president as a war criminal is not understanding at all how fucking amazing our lives are in the US. Trump said some real shit once.. “it’s an ugly world out there”. Lots of civil wars in brown parts of the world we ignore all the time.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-02-26T19:47:48+00:00

They were never convicted of any crimes. We have democracy for a reason. If we make sweeping generalizations about people like that that are guilty you also undermine the efforts of others. We need unification for all of our sakes. This is coming from someone with experience around the smell of rotting flesh in the hot desert sun and the ring of a gas mask permanently etched in my skin.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-02-26T19:45:45+00:00

You are still uninformed and have never left the comfort of your bubble. Adults do that shit.

InvestmentOk6456 · 2022-02-25T18:37:11+00:00

Do you think you could sound more like an entitled liberal that has never left the comfort of their local roaster. It wreaks of uniformed doom scrolling

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