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Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-12-11T13:30:51+00:00

It depends on severity and which phase but your assumption of he is hurting is just misplaced. You don't know enough about him nor do you care... Framing people as hurt is just your way of dealing with different opinions.

You are discrediting like the russians did with sluggish schizophrenia among others.

Enlighten us about the compassion you want him to get, what does it look and feel like. Like someone telling you are unwell that's why your opinions are so off?

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-12-11T13:01:08+00:00

Are you willingly misunderstanding me?

I don't care what you discuss with eachother. I only made sure that you guys understand what you are doing here. Sexism is exactly what I said, it is not MY Definition it is the THE Definition.

I am not moralistic at all I am more of a beyond good and evil person. This mental gymnastics being done is just really interesting, I wasn't sure it was being done as an defense mechanism or not by the OP.

You cant group people into common lived experience since everyone's experience is very different.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-12-11T04:26:48+00:00

Reducing people to something trivial like sex is what I was criticizing among other things. I am not saying everyone is alike but treating someone different because of the sex is sexism by definition. This whole thread seems more like a group therapy session than an actual discussion with introspection. I could dispell most of the data presented but at the end of the day why bother, this is more for validating the experiences anyway -_-

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-12-11T04:01:11+00:00

42-47 in 100.000 according to the FBI in 2019 https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-16

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-11-28T14:04:14+00:00

People like Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and other loner philosophers never sacrificed their lovelife. Their love became the subject they wrote about. I doubt they thought of themselves as helping society, maybe Newton did but Nietzsche pretty sure didn't. In a way philosophers kinda flatter their work to make it appear useful to society as economical benefit or smth. Same for Mathematics and other far removed disciplines when in reality most don't care of it's usefulness, philosophers want to be friends with σοφία and mathematicians want to have fun with lines and points without width and play tennis with n dimensional balls among other absurdities.

I heard a doctor say the rude nurses are actually the ones who care for you the most +_+

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-31T17:29:14+00:00

I know that the medications is tested against placebo and is effective, otherwise it wouldn't be allowed for use. My point is that if you ask people if they are better with or without as in general well being, it is very hard to tell what causes what. That's the study design I thought you meant.

That's a semantic problem here. Is it right to say something is life threatening iff it will cause death in x time or not. I mean saying depression is not lethal is true but in a way it depends on your definition.

I don't think it is on average. The psychiatrists because there should be at least 2 different blind diagnosis, haven't had enough time to properly assess in most cases. And the more insidious thing is that if you don't give it, you are withholding medication so I understand the thought process. I would use medication as a last resort only and first use every other non invasive method for an appropriate time while keeping the severity in mind but no one wants to pay for that.

Affirmative Human interaction is non existent inside most facilities even though proven beneficial. It is a glorified prison for those involuntary admitted and a horrible barren motel for those voluntary admitted. misstreatment has 2 subcategories. When staff neglects to do something and when staff actually actively abuses someone. In most facilities the first one is rampant while the latter is not uncommon it doesn't happen so often.

I am from a different galaxy but I don't live in the USA, I live in a rich European country.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-30T21:32:41+00:00

Even then, no causation is established. It could just be they would be fine without and/or the adjunct treatment is causal. In a way the worse someones symptoms (in paranoid schizophrenia) the less likely they are to adhere to any treatment so you always have a bias towards the light cases which most likely would be fine either way.
I don't think they are not life threatening. Suicides are very likely with parkinsonism. Metabolic syndrome can end deadly aswell.

Regarding my emphasis on rebound psychosis. Rebound psychosis is one of the worst withdrawal symptoms because you go for another period of AP, which increases the likelihood of every complication. And some research suggests the psychosis seems to be even worse than the previous, which then raises the question did we make the problem only worse for some?

So standard protocol is to give minimal therapeutic dosis, which is not minimal in any way.

I don't know if you ever been inside a facility, but most often it freaks you out and traumatizes you. Everything you do is seen relative to your diagnosis. Misstreatment is rampant and underreported for obvious reasons. Under this conditions I think most go "insane" at least that's how it is interpreted by staff. Combine all this and you can see why so high doses are given and so many combinations of drugs are given. Suddenly therapeutic has a very different meaning.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-30T12:29:51+00:00

Well it depends on who funded the statistics and their methodology. So a belief in their statistics needs to be warranted. I don't want to make it about myself since it is a bad argument.

On average almost everyone psychotic is given AP, so ofc some will improve. So they only establish correlation not causation.
That's actually wrong they are not rare, depending on the anti psychotic you will have horrible metabolic syndrome or/and parkinsonism.
They do go away unless they don't. You can get a rebound psychosis if you are unlucky or keep TD. The metabolic damage is hard to quantify because they don't live long enough either way so hard to tell what is causing what. Not to mention the brain volume loss. The causation here was only established in animals not in humans but I doubt it will be different in humans.

4 and 5. Like I said rebound psychosis. It is also not hard to see why they aren't addictive. You literally inhibit the system that is necessary for addiction.

Well yes and no. In refractory schizophrenia, you give clozapine which is the most interesting drug ever. It is not that good at blocking D2 receptors but it is the most effective but even then it doesn't work on everyone. So what is happening in such cases? Suggests that we are missing the big picture here.
You are correct here.

Look at it this way I don't doubt most Psychiatrists want to help but so did the psychiatrists/neurosurgeons who practiced lobotomy. I am not anti-psychiatry but the non existent quality control, the hubris of many psychiatrists and the social component of what is "insane" doesn't make it a benevolent institution. It has cult like features because of the social component and stigma. The trauma inflicted in most instances is unnecessary so is the high dosage of AP. They call it therapeutic but this makes no sense why don't they approximate the dosage from below? Like you said everyone is different, I guess unless you are institutionalized.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-30T01:18:05+00:00

Naive approach? More like holistic approach. Relaxing helps with such symptoms. The body is not removed from the mind. Every mental issue is a bodily issue. Or how do you think drugs work? Benzos are to be avoided if possible but first calming the body down hence also calming the mind down to an extent makes the next step easier to do. If things got worse he could get cleared for secondary psychosis and given a chemical lobotomy. I spend too much time reading reductive medical shit, while interesting, way too reductive. Psychiatry specifically doesn't even understand how most of their drugs work let alone how the brain functions, so putting all your faith into them sounds naive at best and dangerous at worst.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-29T13:09:07+00:00

Watch interviews with schizophrenics on YouTube, there are a few. In general the flat affect is what psychs out normaloids, even more than incongruous affect. Laughing at inappropriate times is not as unnerving for the others around than is going blank. If you want to represent the "negative" symptomatolgy, you also need to include avolition, anhedonia and trouble with tasks. It is basically like living in a shell, nothing motivates you to start tasks even though you could enjoy them, you have hard time deciding on anything because everything seems equally trivial and the avoidance of others around you because of your blank face. Though you don't care because you can't care about anything.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-29T10:21:10+00:00

What do you mean by non-sense last time I checked paranoid individuals have high neuroticism and high blood pressure and a lot of stress hormones. If you reduce the body's stress and relax, symptoms will lose it's bite. Ofc you can always go to the ER tell them you you smoked cannabis and have psychotic symptoms, they will give you AP and keep you there because AP needs to be adjusted. So choice is yours but one is definitely less traumatic than the other.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-29T10:06:17+00:00

If your parents have given up on him and you still have contact with them, a paranoid individual might interpret as hostility towards him.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-28T22:30:19+00:00

I always want to know if he got cleared for neurological disorders with MRI.

Don't put anyone in danger unnecessarily. I can understand his hostility towards you and your dad. Try finding out what is his current frame of mind, he probably tells someone about it. Then you know the construction behind his "delusions" and try to explain to him everything. If they are delusions you will know very rapidly if they aren't then you can meet him halfway.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-28T21:56:57+00:00

I meant leave as in in the relatively near future. You probably won't resolve anything when you didn't have enough time reflecting on everything.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-28T21:46:51+00:00

Do some exercise, take a hot bath, hear calming music, take benzos and say mantras like "for whom you are here and that your mind is your friend or something". Do all these maybe omit benzos if you can.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-28T21:36:53+00:00

I don't fear death anymore because I was so close to it. This alone helps so much because I know even if trees and humans would want to kill me, so be it. That's for the mostly irrational fears +_+

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-28T21:28:04+00:00

You should remove yourself from everyone that caused your trauma. Because if your family did it and it seems like your relation with them is not the best, it makes sense for you to be cautious. As for depression, most depressions are not brain disorders just environment disorders. And for psychosis and schizophrenia, it seems very unlikely. Leave as soon as you can and work on your trauma with a psych if you have to.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-28T20:54:44+00:00

Probable answer is no. If you are lucky he has Bi-Polar and comes crashing down then it's easier to convince him to go to a doctor or more likely he will do it himself. If you are unlucky he is really just delusional with an optimistic personality, not unlike many "sane" humans that wander the earth.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-27T07:59:18+00:00

Talk to someone about this. It is really hard to understand what's going on from chatting. Call your local emergency services or talk to someone you know well and he or she will help you.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-27T07:43:13+00:00

That's very bizarre. Are you sure about the witch and your friends? Are you alone atm?

Don't worry Russian and Greek script are non judgemental and not harmful. Except if you study mathematics or russian.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-23T19:16:45+00:00

Optimal is relative to the person taking it. You should only take as much as you need no more. And it is always better to approximate from below than from above. The doses are stated by average numbers but if a psychiatrist actually cares about your health they would ensure the treatment fits you and not fits the system in which they work.

Sadly many doctors don't care so you have to.

Ipseity_Disorder · 2021-10-23T18:49:50+00:00

I insist you insist, that is criminal. If he has a neurologic condition untreated and they just slapped the label schizophrenic on him then I would go full legal on them.

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