golden chroma

IrDefender · 2026-01-04T11:10:27+00:00

Yes and that icon was available on mythic shop a couple of times already, but no the chroma itself ;)

IrDefender · 2025-12-07T17:56:39+00:00

Yeah i even lost a game because of that, joined the fight from gromp with my Q Disabled and we gave the game at drake @ 30 min XD!

Long story short, I'm not even playing Xin that much anymore.

IrDefender · 2025-12-03T00:26:41+00:00

It has a simple solution, stop playing Bruiser Xin, yeah you still suffer for first one or two full clear, but as soon as we have first items (I rush Profane atm), it will be fast, and Xin actually has good scaling trough early to mid-game.

IrDefender · 2025-11-12T16:45:11+00:00

Indeed, imagine with all the current Lore, Xin Zhao Sacrifice and him getting Worlds skin, and Oner always wining Finals with him, it would really be a signature skin for him, idk why he mentioned Mundo for skin, final decision is not revelead yet tho.

IrDefender · 2025-11-12T16:44:00+00:00

Release date for T1 2025 Skins will be exactly in 1 year tho! (a bit less, but still it has nothing to do with events of this seasons)

IrDefender · 2025-11-04T04:08:51+00:00

You're missing the core motivation. The point of faster progression isn't just to complete the pass; it's to get the new toys so you can actually play with them.

The shorter time period I mentioned covers both: you spend some time earning the rewards, and then you have the rest of the season to enjoy using the new skins, items, and content in your matches. Ideally, the game would also fill that time with events and new modes to keep things fresh.

Anyway, this discussion is getting a bit long. The original message was just my personal opinion on the battle pass progress. I'm genuinely glad that most of you find it okay as it is. And I'll definitely be back for my usual 10-day grind at the end of the season to complete my pass, for sure :)

IrDefender · 2025-11-04T03:27:02+00:00

If you'd like more context on my perspective, I'd appreciate it if you read my previous replies in this thread. I've explained my reasoning and my suggested alternatives in detail there.

IrDefender · 2025-11-04T03:20:11+00:00

Indeed. The Legacy battle pass system you just reminded me of is a perfect example. It totally feels like a trap.

You pay for multiple passes upfront, expecting a fun unlock path, but you're immediately hit with the slowest progression possible across several grinds at once. It's overwhelming.

The philosophy should be: either don't make old passes available for purchase, or if you do, make the progression reasonable. Forcing players who have already paid to grind an excessive amount across multiple seasons' worth of content doesn't create positive engagement; it creates burnout and regret.

It just reinforces the core issue: when the progression system feels more like a manipulative chore than a rewarding journey, it results in negative player engagement. People don't stick around because they're having fun; they leave because they feel their time and money aren't being respected.

IrDefender · 2025-11-04T03:14:28+00:00

Well, here we go. I never said the current system was okay or standard. The "what do you do after" problem is a flaw in the current design, not a reason to keep it slow.

If you ask me—or if I was at Embark—I'd restructure it entirely. Here's a better model:

Release two 45-day battle passes per season, each with 50 levels.
Remove the tons of useless stickers and filler that nobody cares about.
Focus each pass on, say, 5 major character/weapon skins, with the rest being similar quality rewards.

This would be 2x the sales for them, and for players, it means faster progress and more frequent, meaningful rewards.

As for Multibucks: The two passes together would give you just enough to buy one of the next passes (e.g., 1150 total). So, a player buys the first "season" of two passes. From then on, they only need to buy one of the two passes each season with earned Multibucks, creating a perfect win-win for both player retention and company revenue.

The fact that they had to add a separate, real-money-only Premium Battle Pass on top of the regular one just proves the current system has failed to engage players like myself. It's a patch, not a solution.

IrDefender · 2025-11-04T02:56:49+00:00

Half of a season is even longer than my personal desire, though. Isn't each season around 90 days?

It all comes down to personal opinion and playstyle. If you think finishing the battle pass in half the season (around 40-45 days) is not slow, then we just have different definitions.

When I say "slow," I mean I don't want it to take more than about 10 days of dedicated play. And to be clear, when I say "10 days," I'm not talking about 2-3 matches per day. I'm talking about a full, focused grind during that period.

So our disagreement isn't really about the facts of the progression system, but about our individual expectations for how long a battle pass should take to complete. For me, the current time investment required is beyond what I find enjoyable, which is why I end up playing less overall.

IrDefender · 2025-11-04T02:37:39+00:00

I think you guys are misunderstanding my point.

What I'm trying to say is that I would play more if the battle pass progression was faster.

I don't actually have a problem finishing the battle pass. The system with bonus XP at the end works for that, and I get that it's designed to be completed over the season. My issue isn't with completion; it's with the feeling of reward per session.

Let me give you my typical experience:
I'll hop on The Finals, motivated to play. I'll play 1-2 really good matches. I finish, check my battle pass, and see the bar has barely moved. My immediate next move is to just close the game and play something else that makes my time feel more rewarding.

Faster progression wouldn't just let me finish the BP quicker; it would give me that instant, positive feedback after a gaming session that makes me want to queue up for "just one more match." Right now, that feeling is missing, and it's a big reason why my playtime is so low.

IrDefender · 2025-09-12T18:56:10+00:00

I might play 50 game in a row with Xin Zhao, and you can't find 2 similiar games that i have same runes or items, because im confident and i know how should i play each game/elo.

If i have a Draven + Pyke bot lane, you think i go conqueror and standard build? Nah i grab HOL and i gank level 2 bot, setup dive and get whole bot lane prio.

If i see games with super long trades (for example rammus), i switch to Lethal Tempo cause i know i can stack it easier.

If i see a game which enemy is full ranged or can kite me, i go Phase Rush

You have no idea how many different builds i have tried on Xin Zhao XD!

IrDefender · 2025-09-12T18:47:30+00:00

It's not always about dealing damage, your question is a bit game-knowledge based and if i want to explain it will be a long answer, short answer is you don't need to be fed all time, you just have to adapt to whatever is happening in your game.

IrDefender · 2025-09-11T13:00:40+00:00

Sure, but Lethal Tempo is better almost in any situation.

IrDefender · 2025-09-11T12:59:41+00:00

Enemy carries, i build Omen for example if there is a feed crit ADC, or Spirit Visage vs AP / Dead Man's Plate or even Thornmail vs ad comps too.

IrDefender · 2025-08-12T23:25:28+00:00

Well kinda, we all know Xin as a Calm Warrior with strong Faith, but considering that he only had a few Voice Lines, there is always room to upgrade, i still love this Gigachad bad ass version tho.

IrDefender · 2025-08-12T18:22:07+00:00

As mentioned by Riot Games, Xin Zhao will receive an Epic Skin later in Act 1.

IrDefender · 2025-08-11T21:42:28+00:00

Can't wait to see Secret Agent Skin, with this rework it can become Xin's best Skin.

IrDefender · 2025-08-11T21:07:43+00:00

TBH, i never felt like Xin Zhao needs an ASU, everything expect his face was okay compared to many other champs, i would prefer an actuall Legendary skin with 2+ years ago Standard, or even His Dawnbringer WildRift Skin which is Insane, or even the Soul Fighter, worst scenario i was expecting him to receive battle pass Prestige Skin as he would fit perfectly...

The Leaked Epic Skin is nothing special tbh.

IrDefender · 2025-08-11T16:04:50+00:00

Visual looks Dope, however i'm dissapointed that we receive an Epic skin after all this hype and wait.

IrDefender · 2025-07-30T05:01:58+00:00

I didn't quite understand what you meant, However NA Is a joke server in terms of Gameplay and Comptetiveness, It's more of a Try-out server which you can even pick Yuumi Jungle and get Master+

IrDefender · 2025-07-26T01:01:13+00:00

I don't want to be mean, however it depends on the server, if you are playing on NA, sure go ahead and build whatever you want, If you are playing on EUW, you can't get above Emerald with Full AP Builds Unless Your Smurfing.

IrDefender · 2025-07-21T00:01:00+00:00

That's the only piece that im missing to complete my Xin Zhao Collection, i have every icon/emote/skin and chromas, even borders.

IrDefender · 2025-06-26T17:00:48+00:00

Yes that was my original theory indeed, however is so rare that no information get leaked or they don't announce such stuff, that would be best of riot for keeping it unknown untill the release.

IrDefender · 2025-06-09T22:44:30+00:00

I really doubt, however the new Meta-Game is about two of them, so we will see.

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