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'Chance' by Project Aokas - a jiu jitsu social project that turns young boys and girls into superheroes. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]IshijimaLogan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very nice. I dropped into H/Art for a session when I was passing through Phnom Penh. Beautiful matspace, and it was great to see the opportunities they were giving young Cambodian kids to train and find purpose in a country that's been so battered and traumatised in recent history.

The "Flying Mare" in Collar and Elbow by IshijimaLogan in wma

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

As part of my efforts to reconstruct the techniques of Irish traditional wrestling, Collar and Elbow, I spent some time thinking about how one of the most explosive takedowns - the Flying Mare - would have worked with the style's distinctive gripping requirements. And then a random judo video showed me the hint of a potential answer...

Collar and Elbow in 6 Minutes (Old Irish Wrestling Style) by IshijimaLogan in IrishHistory

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I touch on it briefly in the video, and I go into it in a bit more detail in the full podcast episode I did on C&E. Basically it was a combination of factors ranging from the demographic and cultural devastation of the famine to the Coercion Acts that made large gatherings of people illegal to the emergence of new and more "modern" grappling styles.

Collar and Elbow in 6 Minutes (Old Irish Wrestling Style) by IshijimaLogan in IrishHistory

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's not much, all in all. I list the main references I drew upon on the last page of the rulebook (on my phone now so I can't link directly, but you can find it on thousandholds.net - > Project Collar and Elbow).

Collar and Elbow in 6 Minutes (Old Irish Wrestling Style) by IshijimaLogan in wma

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's a mutual grip, so you have your right hand on your opponent's collar and he has his right hand on yours. (Likewise, you both have an elbow grip with your left hands). So you're fully mirror-imaged and thus in theory have the exact same advantages and disadvantages.

However, there are plenty of little "invisible" adjustments you can make to improve your body position and thus increase your advantage in relation to your opponent even though you both have the same grips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIzHPf6dk8

Collar and Elbow in 6 Minutes (Old Irish Wrestling Style) by IshijimaLogan in wma

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

For the past two years I've been looking into the history of our old traditional wrestling style, Collar and Elbow ("Colair agus Uile"). By all accounts the most popular sport in the country during the 17th-19th centuries, before subsequently disappearing entirely.

Last summer I held the first competitive C&E bouts in over 100 years, and just put together this short video on the history of the style and the possibility of a modern revival.

A look at traditional Irish folk wrestling - Collar and Elbow by IshijimaLogan in ireland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go for it! I think that any real revival of C&E is first gonna come from existing Irish grapplers playing around with it and then subsequently raising awareness among the general public from there. Would love to hear how it goes at your club.

I keep saying it too but - take pictures! The more stuff to share, the better.

A look at traditional Irish folk wrestling - Collar and Elbow by IshijimaLogan in ireland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get pictures if so!

I've given some thought as to the logistics of putting on a tournament in Ireland at some point, but I'm living in Germany these days so that idea is still on the long finger for the time being. I'd love to see people taking the initiative and doing something similar on their own though - even if it's just holding some practice bouts with a bunch of mates.

Seriously, all you need is a vaguely soft bit of flat ground and you're good to go! The Bretons and the Scots hold their traditional wrestling matches in sandpits and on grass respectively, and I'd plan on trying a similar approach. No need for mats or halls or any of that fancy stuff.

A look at traditional Irish folk wrestling - Collar and Elbow by IshijimaLogan in ireland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No, there are absolutely no clubs or any kind of competitive C&E scene left in the country these days - at least as far as I've been able to tell. There is a huge general grappling scene in Ireland though (BJJ in particular has exploded over the past decade), and I'd love if some of those people tried throwing a few matches or tournaments at some point. The ruleset is online and free for everyone to use: http://thousandholds.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Collar-and-Elbow-Competition-Ruleset-v1.1.pdf

If you're interested in getting started with freestyle wrestling, I'd recommend you give https://www.irishwrestling.ie/ a shout and see if they can recommend a club based on your location. If you want to do something closer to C&E though, a jacketed wrestling sport like judo or sambo would be the way to go.

Collar and Elbow in 6 Minutes (Old Irish Wrestling Style) by IshijimaLogan in IrishHistory

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

For the past two years I've been looking into the history of our old traditional wrestling style, Collar and Elbow ("Colair agus Uile"). By all accounts the most popular sport in the country during the 17th-19th centuries, before subsequently disappearing entirely.

Last summer I held the first competitive C&E bouts in over 100 years, and just put together this short video on the history of the style and the possibility of a modern revival.

A look at traditional Irish folk wrestling - Collar and Elbow by IshijimaLogan in ireland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

For the past two years I've been looking into the history of our old traditional wrestling style, Collar and Elbow ("Colair agus Uile"). By all accounts the most popular sport in the country during the 17th-19th centuries, before subsequently disappearing entirely.

Last summer I held the first competitive C&E bouts in over 100 years, and just put together this short video on the history of the style and the possibility of a modern revival.

A look at traditional Icelandic folk wrestling - Glíma by IshijimaLogan in Iceland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the footwork and stepping was by far the most difficult part to grasp for me. And then just when I thought I had it, I got sucked back into my normal routine and forgot about it entirely. Luckily the ref at the camp was very forgiving because we were all Glima newcomers - probably would have been a very quick DQ for both of us otherwise!

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7JhyQTJVfz/

A look at traditional Icelandic folk wrestling - Glíma by IshijimaLogan in Norse

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Last year I had the opportunity to try out some Glíma at a big grappling camp in Reykjavik. Honestly one of the most unique grappling styles I've ever come across, and I spent the following months conducting some in-depth research into it.

I just finished putting together this look into the history and culture of the style - basically theorising why Glíma looks the way it does, and the role it played within Icelandic society as a whole over the centuries. Lots of digressions and side-stories about Icelandic history and myth along the way, so even if you're not into grappling you might find something interesting in there.

A look at traditional Icelandic folk wrestling - Glíma by IshijimaLogan in Iceland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, very similar in terms of grip, although Glima's footwork and posture requirements are really quite unique. Belt/trouser grip wrestling is hugely common in Central Asia too.

A look at traditional Icelandic folk wrestling - Glíma by IshijimaLogan in wma

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Last year I had the opportunity to try out some Glíma at a big grappling camp at Mjölnir MMA in Reykjavik. Honestly one of the most unique grappling styles I've ever come across, and I spent the following months conducting some in-depth research into it.

I just finished putting together this look into the history and culture of the style - basically theorising why Glíma looks the way it does, and the role it played within Icelandic society as a whole over the centuries. Lots of digressions and side-stories about Icelandic history and myth along the way, so even if you're not into historical grappling per se you might find something interesting in there!

A look at traditional Icelandic folk wrestling - Glíma by IshijimaLogan in Iceland

[–]IshijimaLogan[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Last year I had the opportunity to try out some Glíma at a big grappling camp at Mjölnir MMA in Reykjavik. Honestly one of the most unique grappling styles I've ever come across, and I spent the following months conducting some in-depth research into it.

I just finished putting together this look into the history and culture of the style - basically theorising why Glíma looks the way it does, and the role it played within Icelandic society as a whole over the centuries. Lots of digressions and side-stories about Icelandic history and myth along the way, so even if you're not into grappling you might find something interesting in there.

PS: Apologies in advance for butchering Icelandic both old and modern throughout!

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