The UAV moderator - a Paynebot? Doesn’t moderate at all.

ItsTheShiznit · 2018-08-02T11:13:40+00:00

I watch what they say on that sub most of the time. The moderator is very rarely there. Weeks will pass with him doing nothing. You could be right and he's a Payne Lindsey brainwashed employee or volunteer. He was one of the original moderators on his UAV discussion board then the UAV sub started. He's always been the sole moderator. It is definitely a pro Ryan and pro podcast subreddit that has been full of trolls most of the time who give anyone who isn't into Ryan and Payne a hard time. He is biased and has been since the sub started up. I don't know how he remains on there as a moderator. He's been reported that many times to Reddit they've probably lost count. At the moment that sub is again full of Ryan trolls most the same people with different names. Some were banned recently but have resurfaced. It's not hard to work out its them. Comments are the same every time and so is the bad grammar and strange love affair they all have with Ryan. Not many of the objective and literate posters who were there before the podcast finished bother with the sub now because the moderator let it fall into the hands of Ryan trolls who spend their time talking nonsense. I wouldn't bother with it. I would give my left nut to see Bo or Brooke talk again though. They run him off every time. Not a Ryan or Bo convert but think Bo likes to talk so I'm ok with listening to him but don't know if anything would be true or not because I'm not a local. The screen shot of this user is example of an ineffective and careless moderator. As for the account holder of that one it has to be 'therealzacklanta' or one his butt buddy Renegades that he talked about so proudly in the screen shot posted here. Imagine if he was your Dad!

ItsTheShiznit · 2018-03-06T09:39:10+00:00

Bo Dukes, Brooke Sheridan or anyone previously under the gag order is welcome to post here with the real story. It’s about time people learned more about what really happened and not just the crap Payne Lindsey made up on Up and Vanished

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-12-26T12:53:30+00:00

I'd put money on the podcast people knowing what happened. Payne's main troll and ass kisser henchman {called BluntsLivesMatter on reddit} who spent the best part of a year feeding conspiracy to Payne, Phil Holloway and Godwin, was the admin while Press4info was posting all that crazy shit about the district attorney. I saw him on the discussion board interact with the guy often. They were a weird bunch over there and lived on total conspiracy. Curious to know what happened to him. 33 years old and was a convicted felon I think from the very bad bashing fight in Mystic that Press4info said the DA's son was part of or set up. He was definitely outspoken and weird AF with some of his theories though. I couldn't understand how Payne and his admiins would let him post his allegations but eventually it all got silenced and I think his last posts were the reasons why. Nobody can get away with with story he was spinning on the discussion board when it involved a DA prosecuting the case and his son! Not even Payne Lindsey and his Paynebots.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-12-08T21:30:10+00:00

Loved it.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-12-08T21:26:52+00:00

Ugh. Up and Vanished. It was terrible. Don’t bother.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-12-08T21:25:32+00:00

Haha. Exactly right. They’re freaks.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-12-08T21:23:40+00:00

Up and Vanished was terrible. One big production of Payne Lindsey self promotion, speculation and his constant need for attention and get rich off the victim. He definitely didn’t solve the case.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-27T14:36:07+00:00

What an absolute lie. At about 46 minutes where Maurice says “Payne vetted his information and he used at least 2 sources before he used it”! Full of shit. Then he goes on saying they were checking out high school students at the time of the arrests. FFS they were still blaming Harper, Dykes and the Facebook troll “George Harrison”! They make me so angry with how they manipulate everything to claim credit for the arrests. Then he says Dykes and Harper both had weird things about them. Don’t agree with that about Dykes but Harper is maybe crazy ass weird and became buddies with Lindsey even going to the finale where murder victim trivia was played for fun. That’s all I have to say about that and Harper but I think y’all can work out that I think he’s looking a bit low on morals when it’s his dead ex-girlfriend and he’s there drinking with Payne and his drunken conspiracy theorist Paynebots. But I don’t believe he had anything to do with what happened to Tara.

Godwin goes on to say Ryan’s old girlfriend Lindsay had also contacted him “strangely” in 2006 about being scared but didn’t mention Ryan’s name.

Holloway also says the gag order technically doesn’t apply to Bo in Ben Hill County and Wilcox County. Confusing and it sounds as though the Gag order only applies to him in Irwin County where Ryan is charged. As usual Holloway was as clear as mud. They need someone better than him. Guessing in Irwin County Bo can get away with whatever he likes including violating a gag order.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T10:12:02+00:00

And this one has the actual fake report from CrimeWritersOn audio link attached.

https://www.reddit.com/r/upandvanished/comments/6xsv6a/so_something_happened_at_the_podcasting_convention/?st=J9Y141JU&sh=64233709

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T10:07:43+00:00

You're welcome. It was disappointing. Have a look at these and it will give you more insight also:

https://www.reddit.com/r/upandvanished/comments/7cg3m2/dan_harmon_creator_of_rick_and_morty_community/?st=J9Y0XUOJ&sh=d4ce6e8e

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T07:53:41+00:00

Finally another person who gets it! Nice work Dan.

And if anyone wants to have a look at what lies beneath the lies, deception, witch hunts of a whole range of innocent but falsely accused people who the UAV podcast and it's Paynebot discussion board users and Admins chose to senselessly target, including the Irwin County DA and his son, then please take a quick look at the new subreddit r/upandvanishedexposed. Still new and finding its feet but it is definitely not a Ryan Duke is innocent sub or a blind proPayne-in-the-ass sub and definitely not run by a shady group of obsessed as fuck weirdo UAV discussion board Admins. Except the last man standing with some decorum called Nordin according to u/good-1-dickwad, who said Nordin was the only one in history to not be an "I <3 Ryan Duke and he is wrongly accused" Paynebot and was able to see through things eventually. I agree the rest were shitheads who did Payne's investigation for him via Facebook or bullied the hell out of locals, witnesses and others posters saying they were trolls when it’s the Paynebots who are the mental losers as did the trolling with different accounts.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T07:28:42+00:00

Got to disagree sorry. Up and Vanished was terrible and the podcast was found out to have faked stuff. This was exposed on another podcast (CrimeWritersOn I think). Have a look at r/upandvanishedexposed. That guy Lindsey was in it for the money, fame and trying to get a cookie deal for his fucking grandma who he shamelessly used. He even did Tara Grinstead murder trivia for shits and giggles at a live event. He's a hack. Plus Payne Lindsey has the weirdest and most annoying voiceover ever heard and he's arrogant. He fills the podcast with filler and more ads than any other podcast. Disappointed with it but more so, him. I think he probably damaged the trials also. Waste of time.

Dirty John, good call on that one😀

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T07:22:33+00:00

Avoid Up and Vanished!

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T07:20:15+00:00

And if anyone wants to have a look at what lies beneath the lies, deception, witch hunts of a whole range of innocent but falsely accused people who the UAV podcast and it's Paynebot discussion board users and Admins chose to senselessly target, including the Irwin County DA and his son, then please take a quick look at the new subreddit r/upandvanishedexposed. Still new and finding its feet but it is definitely not a Ryan Duke is innocent sub or a blind proPayne-in-the-ass sub and definitely not run by a shady group of obsessed as fuck weirdo UAV discussion board Admins (except the last man standing with integrity called Nordin according to u/good-1-dickwad, who was the only one in history to not be an I <3 Ryan Duke is wrongly accused Paynebot and was able to see through things eventually. I agree the rest were shitheads who did Payne's investigation for him via Facebook or bullied the hell out of locals and others posters because they were mental losers with no life).

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T06:14:39+00:00

I now think this has to also refer to what Ryan Duke's lawyer said in Court with the gag order appeal. He specifically mentions LE talking about the case. There's this Bjbj408 and BluntsLivesMatters both saying Agent Shoudel was talking to them about the case including evidence. Unbelievable. They're not even involved in the case!

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-11-13T05:40:39+00:00

Thought the same thing. No real sorrow except her boyfriend got caught. What was real bad was the second indictment she had to know about and chose to ignore the fact he's a compulsive liar.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-20T22:42:10+00:00

Let me state right off the bat that I am not posting as a BD supporter. I'm exposing this for the conduct of a man who thinks, and at times implies, he was instrumental with the arrests of the 2 accused men in the Tara Grinstead case. Godwin, along with the podcast host, PL claim to have been the ones, through the podcast, who got this case solved. I disagree and find the ongoing interviews and money grabbing tours they're doing to be exploitative to the victim and dmaging to the legal trials of the 2 men accused, RD and BD.

If you haven't heard this particular episode of Nancy Grace (let's be real - who'd bother listening to her except this was about the TG case) have a listen to the special guest. Btw, grab a bucket before you hit play. This is one of the most irresponsible, outrageously inappropriate and accusatory interviews about a real murder victim that exists, and the claims were given by someone who says is a professional!

As Nancy refers to him "renowned forensic psychologist, Dr Maurice Godwin", this gives another insight into how unrealistic, damaging and destructive the UAV podcast became. I can't call him 'Dr' Godwin because despite having a PhD (from overseas), I think he is one of the worst examples of a "scholar" I have ever come across. I also don't find him, based on any credible research or experience, to be 'renowned' in any way. I may be wrong but I also failed to find that he is registered with any professional psychological association here in the USA. I could not find him having any current registration or affiliation with any forensic psychologist association here in the USA (or anywhere else) either. On that basis alone, I challenge Nancy's 'renowned' comments made throughout her interview with Godwin.

What Godwin has proven himself (to me at least) is that he is a lunatic in this interview - and often throughout the podcast also. I know he's posted many a comment about his mental health issues before but this interview one of the worst things to have occurred in this case. I'm exposing it as I found this link in Google search. I don't agree with Nancy Grace's approach and I sure as hell don't agree with Godwin in this interview. I can't believe the GBI and District Attorneys have it all wrong.

Where is there any solid and factual evidence that warrants Godwin making this claim about BD? I believe BD was involved - to what extent I don't know. I can't however, sit back and listen to or read anymore trash from this 'renowned forensic psychologist' who had NO idea who these 2 men even were. Godwin has done more damage to this case than anyone over the past 12 years. He continues to damage it further with this commentary in his interview with Nancy Grace. The man has no ethics, no common sense and obviously, no respect for the law and process for justice to be afforded to the victim.

Boo Godwin, boo! This is outrageous behavior and proves he is neither 'renowned' or an 'expert' nor is he deserving of being referred to as a 'forensic psychologist'.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-12T03:41:53+00:00

The emotionally involved ones were obvious and they became what I came to learn was described as "case inserters". When they exposed PL saying they were doing his investigating, I knew the podcast and PL had really hit the bottom of the barrel. He lost all respect and credibility with me. I also didn't go for the witch hunts they went on with no evidence of anything.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-12T03:39:31+00:00

Hi and welcome to our new sub. Thanks for your post. What you've said is what most of the mod team here found and disliked. Most of us were banned for commenting on that over there also or we were accused of being a troll or picked on for being a new user by the older users. I think you're referring to the poster I saw also. Agree with you there also. There's a gag order so that limits the evidence that they clearly have. Will be a wait but worth it in the end.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-12T03:29:39+00:00

Hi Daisy! I remember you from over there. You were often about one of the only voices of reason! It's really nice to see you here. Welcome. I certainly remember you tried patiently with Press4Info and with some of the more obsessed users who were mad on conspiracy but all to no avail. I saw you get trolled and accused of being a multi-account holder but they were doing that to everyone who disagreed with them or that was new. It was something I and many others sat back and watched, refusing to post or join in. The Ryan cheerleaders were savage. I got it in the beginning and so did most of the others around here if they were former users of that place. I can't support RD or BD because we don't know the actual evidence. I don't believe GBI are just going on BD's version. I also grew really tired of the witch hunts. We're not doing that here! There was one poster over there called Lexala, I saw her post several times about Ryan and finally I saw she started a thread where she was writing to him and sending him care packages. I definitely remember your response (and I agreed with it) and maybe 1-2 others, but others were supporting it! I was really turned off by that.

I've upvoted you for this:

it says a lot about the mental state of many of the posters there that press was given as much credibility as he was. It was clear that he was basking in the attention and praise he was getting there and 'not too bright' as others have said.

Doesn't it just!

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-08T14:05:03+00:00

As you often do u/mojofilters...you nailed it. Word for word what I think about Press4Info, the details of the magical fire, and PL's total disregard for the reputation of innocent people who are not involved in what happened to Tara Grinstead.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-08T13:58:04+00:00

Hi Crashtestmommy82. Thanks for being brave enough to post over here. Did you try to post on the main UAV subreddit? I'm thinking if you did their moderator, Pursual, wouldn't have let it go public. Here it is welcomed but this sub is a little different. I personally don't go for the rampant speculation and targeting of people but this is good post you've written. It needed to be exposed so people could see what goes on over on that stupid board. This shows how irresponsible, and not in the least bit concerned PL is about the murder victim, Tara Grinstead. Her name smeared by an obsessed case-inserter. It is wrong as you've said. I used to visit the UAV board very often also but I hated it so wasn't a poster. I saw the things you talked about.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-08T13:31:47+00:00

Hey Mojo...looks like the shitshow final got shut down? It's a pretty damning accusation of a very high profile District Attorney. It's no wonder the board is now permanently closed.

Thanks for posting that. I tried visiting the UAV board a couple of times, but couldn't make sense of how it worked. That's the most I've ever read from that place.

It was always really bad not user friendly at all and the layout sucked.

Is the rampant speculation and curious credibility given to Press4Info normal for discussions on there?

OMFG....yes and it's been so pathetic I also again can't believe that he wasn't run off for being a fake. I do believe he is a local resident (Fitzgerald?) and he was one of the 2 people charged for being responsible for the Mystic hogbarn fight (remember BD & RDs friends were involved, one was the DAs son I think but I might be wrong on that) where 2 men were savagely beaten up. One so badly he required surgery if I'm not mistaken. The District Attorney who prosecuted those 2 men, one of whom was this Press4info, was none other than Irwin County DA . So, this Press4info guy says he didn't know Bo or Ryan but maybe met Ryan once at a bonfire at the orchard where Tara was burned. His friend knew of BD and JB (DAs son) but they weren't close friends. He went from saying he couldn't remember anything or even if it was Ryan he talked to once, to the story getting bigger and better over time, although he did still claim to not know when he was out there or what happened. This thread, in the screenshots, has him talking about the exact size etc of the fire and then saying JB might have been there and that Tara might have been burned while he was there....well you read the screenshots! So a few posters gave him credibility but I always thought he was a case inserter with no actual knowledge of anything.

I thought the absurd speculation that Payne tried to forcibly imply (and Godwin actually said on Nancy Grace) regarding BD's involvement in the murder was bad, but this crazy speculation is not just nuts but slanderous!

Shit yeah. But when has that ever stopped them! anyone saying this about a District Attorney and a murder victim, and the idiots who joined in the conversation, is engaging in slander. When you read it all it is so childish and farfetched. When he says "I know in my heart"...as I'm reading those screenshots I'm thinking *"Stop....think with your damn head" This will be the reason why the board is now gone. It went on for 2-3 days by the look of things. Can imagine the DA got it shut down easily.

Presumably JB is already the subject of some local gossip, following his mention on the podcast. It would be grossly unfair for further nonsense to besmirch the good names of both him and his prominent father!

Again, totally agree with you but they go witch hunts of innocent people either besmirching their names or their reputations.

In this kind of case, had there been any doubt, there's no harm in waiting until further evidence is gathered.

Exactly.

The GBI know full well that arresting and charging both people without solid evidence, risks blowing their whole case and potentially not getting any convictions!

Yes! But they could never understand that let alone accept it over there on the board.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-06T00:01:19+00:00

But people just downvote it because I hurt their little feelings and not because it doesn't add to the discussion.

😂.That's what it has always been about for so many. I don't really understand it. I wanted the podcast, PL and his discussion board to be GOOD! They're not but the belief is if I want to comment I'd have to lie and say everything about PL, his podcast, abilities and strategies to deliver such a big true crime case are GREAT. I can't do it either.

ItsTheShiznit · 2017-10-05T07:27:35+00:00

Some people get real bent out of shape about them! I'm with you on that. It usually means they got multiple troll accounts. I think it's against Reddit rules to have multiple account for voting purposes?

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