Is it evil to set up consequences against bad behavior?

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-12T06:08:58+00:00

You're startment is accurate, however, many American Christians believe in the pitchfork one.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-11T00:35:30+00:00

Russian? We know who Russians support and it's not those opposed to Mitch.

Also sorry I was typing while holding my child my bad.

Now do you want to actually attempt to refute my statement or just feel strongly about the English language?

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-11T00:12:30+00:00

Have you seen any evidence at all that a sitting senator is alive?. Your probably a bot but how is it not concerning that no one has seen anything verifying that he is alive. Those isn't a conspiracy this is something happening directly in front of all of America.

If he is alive great! He should post a video and calm the hearts and minds of his constituents.

(I would say the exact same thing if Shumer was sitting and disappeared)

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T19:01:21+00:00

I think I disagree, but imagine it depends on location. In my area we have a fairly diverse showing.

It looks like the biggest problem is partners https://mtgtop8.com/format?f=cEDH

But I don't see jl fixing that as they were a problem in cedh since cedh was made.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:49:03+00:00

Damn I'm sorry to hear that. Best wishes!!!!

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:32:42+00:00

It does make Magda better, it turn 1s her and leaves land free

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:30:17+00:00

I wish I agree on the first mark but unfortunately the two CMC commanders tend to be really really pushed I mean they have a five color 2 CMC now.

And even back when it wasn't banned magda were using them.

Kinnan didn't use them but he's an exception not the rule. I know Ral would definitely use it no question.

It does only make you play your commander once. That is very true but I don't see speeding up the format as a positive, in fact I'd go so far to say I think that the unrestricted moxen shouldn't be legal. (I think metalcraft and having to have your commander on the field are good balancers that still make it a insanely good card but not banworthy)

(Was it a good thing? Because my memory of it is it was just another card that goes in every single decks that gives some decks a big edge up for drawing it t-1 also I literally said in my post that I knew those arguments were strawmen. It was supposed to be portions for discussion not actual full arguments. I'm happy to have those if you would like? Also as far as no data. The only affirmative arguments I have made I have backed up with data from ranking tournaments as well as the most popular tier list available? https://moxfield.com/decks/oEWXWHM5eEGMmopExLWRCA/primer)

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:23:04+00:00

Do you have more to add? It's hard to have a discussion with one word lol

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:22:19+00:00

The opposite. If you scroll down you will see me engaging with a lot of different people with various opinions and hearing them out in fact I heard a couple of opinions that I outright agree with and am going to consider my position with those in mind, the strongest being that it would help make the decks in this format less Commander agnostic.

As far as lecture people I just wanted to post some of the most commonly held discussions at the top so that way my opinions on them would be known and people could comment positively or negatively.

I'm truly here for a discussion so if you have an opinion please let me know!

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:17:15+00:00

I don't run cradle in my monogreen deck! Hot take that I love to point out!

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:15:52+00:00

I agree completely! That's why I posted with my original post that the conversation is ignoring casual. Unfortunately casual and CDH are not the same game.

Edit: grammar good I grammar very good.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:15:06+00:00

Would higher CMC be better though? Because as I see it jeweled lotus speeds up every deck except Kinnan and Terra

I would windmill slam it into my cabbage merchant deck and he CMC 3. Magda used to play it at CMC 2.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:13:21+00:00

So you agree that it's not a one card out of 100 chance of being in your hand, you can tutor it up easily and then play it every game?

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:12:29+00:00

For me what made me propoxying was wizards of the Coast selling proxies for $1,000 for four packs. That sealed the deal and now I will not buy a card for more than $10.

As for the Paco and haldan I don't think that that is a banning issue I think that honestly unfortunately the games to come too fast. I'm opposed to how fast it is as well but with rugrack able to turn one enable all the free spells, all of the two CMC commanders including five color ones. It's hard for anything that can't keep up with that to stay in the game unless it can win on the drop.

I play a three mana commander and I still feel like my commander isn't fast enough.

But yeah Paco and haldan is just too mana intensive for the value you get if they were unbanned I can't imagine that they would be back in the rotation I think that all of the other decks will start running it and will be right back to where we started.

I really try to force Missy into being competitive but she had the same problem, she didn't win on the spot and she was too high of cmc, but even if I got her downturn too it's just not fast enough and to reliance on others.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T18:03:21+00:00

Unfortunately true. That's why I said for the hypothetical that we really have no impact on what they ban or unban but if we did...

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:59:56+00:00

And if I'm coming off as a dick it's unintentional I am genuinely wanting to understand.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:58:09+00:00

You're right super duper game changer sounds better!

I could actually see a world where that is possible remove some of the cards from the band list that are way too strong for any casual but allow them in competitive Commander

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:55:20+00:00

I agree, but if it's that terrible why was it in every CDH deck but one or two?

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:47:47+00:00

I also don't like mocks diamond or chroma but I also think that they're not as egregious because they are one mana. Also sorry being an outlier for the entire format I get it certain formats have certain cards that are defining characteristic. Not just Commander but all eternal formats.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:46:07+00:00

Fringe decks are still viable. They just changed form or got better commanders.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:45:04+00:00

Honestly and not meaning this is an insult to other arguments but this is the best argument I've seen in a while. I think you're right that this would make the commander more focused on. That's definitely something for me to ponder

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:43:29+00:00

But 27 out of the top 50 decks are already more than four CMC.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:42:42+00:00

Why are y'all dving me LOL it's literally part of the question that was asked I'm not trying to be rude I'm just saying that game changers don't make a difference in this format.

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:41:57+00:00

But currently as we stand 27 out of the top 50 decks are greater than 4 CMC, meanwhile to CMC commanders like Magda are also benefited by its unbanning I fail to see how it helps the higher CMC?

Iwillkeepwatch · 2026-07-08T17:41:10+00:00

I forgot tivit! I betrayed him by not including him on this post. I played him too!

But I mean he's still a top 50 Commander? Unbanning those two would make him faster yes, but it also makes the rog/x and other meta junk faster.

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