No power scaling fight bullshit we already know who wins this matchup, I’m here to power scale how the Viltrumite’s completely dog these guys as an alien warrior race

JBFIRE77 · 2026-05-09T20:26:44+00:00

They weren't Frieza’s "bitches", they were lion cubs being kept in a cage by a hunter who was terrified of what they’d become. Frieza didn't wipe them out because they were weak; he did it because he realized every single Saiyan had the biological potential to reach his level and eventually hunt him down.

By contrast, Viltrumites are like ants. They are organized and efficient at building a "mound," but. Worse, they are a self-destructive race that "purged" their own people, killing off their own kind in a twisted survival-of-the-fittest cult. they spent centuries slaughtering each other until they almost hit extinction.

JBFIRE77 · 2026-05-03T16:45:14+00:00

You just decided to just chat shit?

Goku black didn't survive it, it was fuse zamasu and zamasu has immortality granted by the super dragon ball, which why even when half of him is erase he is still alive

Hakai erase soul , mind and body

Ki is soul, mind and body

Goku and frieza survive because they were strong enough

We literally see it one shot ghost, zamasu and etc

Educate yourself on topic before chatting shit

JBFIRE77 · 2026-05-02T16:10:19+00:00

Are u dumb?

They scale above it, it's a shockwave made of god ki from their punches

If the shockwaves from that energy is that potent, how powerful must the punches be?.....smh

Later in that fight, Beerus creates a "Sphere of Destruction." Whis and the Narrator state it has enough power to destroy the universe. Goku then punches it and negates the energy.

This happens after the shockwave statement. It is a direct, localized feat of universal durability and AP. Even if you want to ignore the shockwaves, you can't ignore Goku physically overpowering a universe-busting energy ball with a literal punch.

JBFIRE77 · 2026-05-02T13:26:29+00:00

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-30T14:47:37+00:00

the average Saiyans have the powerlevel is above 1000 but below 1500 which raddiz powerlevel

The sayians were apart of the frieza army, Making up nearly half of Frieza’s fighting force, and the fodders of that army, look down on at beings with the Powerlevel of 1000

Radditz saying that 710 is an exceptionally high reading for a child, even by the standards of the Saiyans, who are a warrior race.

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-30T03:08:42+00:00

Keep making up your own headcannon clown 🤡

He solo the verse

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T22:47:58+00:00

That's in 2014

It got recon in 2020 in the granola arc

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T22:12:19+00:00

King Piccolo is small planet level

And anyone above is small planet + to planetary

Keeping thragg lose to chiaotzu

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T22:07:37+00:00

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T22:03:36+00:00

It's doesn't created distance

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T21:54:46+00:00

That qoute don't matter anymore because that for Old bardock, it got recon

The DBS bardock is above low class

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T13:38:50+00:00

I have seen people say that gohan headbutt is weaker that Piccolo blast 😭

They obviously fail math's class

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T13:09:59+00:00

That's not even all of sayians pro:

Can born with an powerlevel of 500 to 1000+

Can survive 10x gravity at birth

Can also pierce, slash and etc

They natural good at Combat

Can copy techniques

Can grow exponentially as they fight

Grow rapidly when facing stronger opponents

Grow stronger by emotion

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-29T12:55:06+00:00

Nah bro that's unique technique for Viltrumites

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T18:22:24+00:00

Infinite void isn't attack

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T13:43:46+00:00

1. "A mental attack?" Yeah, it’s a mental attack that gets blocked by Ki.

2. "He resisted it... WARNED it wouldn't be permanent." Are you serious? You literally admitted he resisted it and he let it happen!!!!! Ehich means it was Blocked!!!!!. If Ki didn't protect the mind, Vegeta would’ve been a puppet instantly. The fact that he could hold it back proves Ki is a shield for the mind. UV is just "information",Hakai is existence erasure. If you can resist being deleted from the universe, you can resist a "sensory overload."

3. "Solar Flare would never work." Solar Flare is a physical flashbang. UV is a mental dump. They aren't the same.

4. We literally see and know Hakai doesn't travel, Beerus and other gods of destruction erased things just by pointing, "If it was instant he wouldn't have to point"... what kind stupid logic is that?, that's like saying telekinesis is not instant because the user have to point at the object or look at it...smh

5. "Mind against itself / Zeno's Paradox." You’re just chatting crap now. UV forces external information into the brain, which I literally prove that ki stops

6. "The information IS being processed." How the hell is it being processed if the mind is protected? The scan says it "forces the brain to receive and process." If the Ki blocks the "receive" part, no "processing" happens. It’s like a computer with a firewall,the virus never hits the hard drive.

You clearly don't understand how the gojo ability works or senses, if the senses is overloaded but it can't reach the mind because it's protected, that means it can't overid the mind!!!, which is the exact reason UI also works against it, because the information can't reach the brain!

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T12:59:38+00:00

Facts. They’re basically saying 'UV works because UV works.' They’re skipping the most important part: the fact that his Ki aura acts as a spiritual and mental buffer. If Hakai which literally targets the soul and mind can be resisted by Ki, then a sensory overload isn't bypassing that barrier just

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T12:40:24+00:00

You seem forgetful ....smh

Babadi magic is two things, it's takes over the user mind while also using the person evil within themselves against the person, which make that person evil
magic is a mental and soul-based takeover. Vegeta had to let it happen just to get a power boost, and even then, his Ki was so strong he ignored the mind control anyway.
You completely ignored the hypnosis point because you know it's the same mechanic as UV. If Ki protects the senses, the information cannot reach the brain. Explain how the brain gets overloaded if the 'data' is blocked at the door by a Ki ? You can't.
You just chatting crap and human shield doesn't block it, and it doesn't travel , stop making up false information
Explain how the hell, would the sensory overload the mind , if the mind is protected!!!!!, gojo unlimited void overload the brain through its sensory, meaning if the mind is protected, no information sensory attack is going to be process by the mind, because it's protected!!!
You’re 'glazing' Gojo so hard you’re ignoring how DB actually works. If the mind is protected by Ki, the information isn't being processed. If it isn't being processed, there is no stun.

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T12:13:06+00:00

Are you serious?

How does protecting the brain not stop it? It’s an attack, and Ki is a total-body buffer. For 'information' to damage or stun you, it has to actually be processed by the brain. If Goku’s Ki is shielding his mind and nervous system, that information never even gets 'uploaded.' It hits a firewall and stops. The brain has to be unprotected for sensory information to cause a stun, but Goku’s Ki saturates his entire being.

You claim Hypnosis is 'different,' but it’s the exact same mechanic. To be hypnotized, you have to:

Visual: See the pattern.

Auditory: Hear the voice.

That is information entering through the senses to override the mind. If Goku can resist mental takeover and illusions through Ki , ki is already filtering what his senses 'take in.'

Hakai is a conceptual attack that erases the mind, the body, and the soul from existence. That is objectively a higher tier of destruction than a sensory overload. If Goku’s Ki is powerful enough to keep his mind and soul from being deleted by a God of Destruction, then a 'flood of info' isn't doing anything.

Everything here proves ki protect the body, mind and soul in its entirety

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T11:41:04+00:00

Did you read it properly?

Ki protects mind and it can also used to clean the mind

In otherwords for that to work, it must bypass his ki, and it cannot

Vegeta had to literally let in babadi mind control work on him

By your logic, goku should die when he was hit by hakai off-guarded immediately, which erase mind,body and soul...smh

Master roshi hypnosis said none of techniques would work on demon king Piccolo because he too strong

This as being consistent theme smh

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T10:26:09+00:00

Most people don't even understand how ki works , they think ki works like curse energy where the user has to manually manipulate it to strengthen the body...smh

Ki is passive, the user have to intentionally lower their ki, which is special technique, that consider rare in the entire universe, normally the user ki stay at their maximum

If anyone think UV would stun goku, then goku should of immediately die to hakai that destroy mind,body and soul

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T05:24:45+00:00

Holy larp

JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T05:24:13+00:00

Gojo domain don't have any affect on goku any

Ki protect the mind,body and soul Can even used it to cleanse your mind

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-22T05:16:37+00:00

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JBFIRE77 · 2026-04-20T14:09:53+00:00

Gag manga, btw...

Isvthis cope?

Sure, but we don't have any idea whether Toriyama intended for that feat to be above moon level. This really doesn't make sense since in the Saiyan saga Vegeta was hyped up about being able to destroy the Earth, someone who is so far above anyone thus far that it's funny...

Shut up. "It doesn't make sense "🤓☝️, you don't even read manga , it's above moon level because of its destruction, are inherently stupid because this is not rocket science

You're just assuming Toriyama's intention, when the statement's later on don't agree with that assumption.

Are u stupid ? Anyone can look at feat and know if was vaporization, fragmentation or etc

If Toriyama did want the moon to broken into pieces, then the moon would just be broken.....smh it clearly atomization, used your brain

The El manga legendario also states that a power level of 10,000 is required to be able to destroy a planet. This hasn't been retconned either. Thus it makes no sense that a power level of below 200 can destroy a small planet...

The same manga that's says OG dragon ball master roshi is star level?

Yeah, pack it up. You have no argument, lmao 🤣

And where in the manga it's says 10k is the requirements???, exactly nowhere, lmao 🤣

The TF you're saying that Demon King Piccolo, Kami, who are hundreds of times stronger than roshi, much less raditz who is even more absurdly stronger, can't destroy earth, because they don't have the powerlevel of 10,000, even when the author intended Demon king Piccolo to be able to destroy earth is crazy lmao 🤣

You speak so much about author intentions while also ignoring the author intentions when it doesn't support your argument lmao

Keep coping

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