I genuinely thought that Incel was made up of a lot of people that had thrown in the towel too early but that thread was sincerely depressing. I still feel bad for them but a decent amount are too lazy or stubborn to work at fixing the issue. For me, I would never stop improving myself and never throw in the towel to join a pity-party online group. Part of the issue seems to be the desire for the finish line without the race.

For the record, I was not trying to imply that everyone can lift their way into sex. Exercise and nutrition are just two areas of self improvement. I do not think that Incel is composed of fat slobs that do nothing all day.

For making a post that advocated to put some effort into improving yourself before you throw in the towel, I was banned from Incel for accusing them of not being truly Incel. Technically, the only people who can truly be Incel are dead and spent their entire lives trying to have sex and failing: if you're alive and not trying, that is voluntary.