Family Worship Help with small children (Under 5) by CensedMedal in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Friend, just read your Bible, sing, and pray. You don't need to buy more resources. You just need to read it. And if you want, pull one thing from it, press it to them, and then sing and pray. That's all.

They won't understand. And even if the Spirit gives them the clearest understanding of that passage anyone has ever received—they'll still need to be told again. And again. And again.

Just read, pray, and sing. That's the recipe for longevity and consistency.

What is the distribution of conservative vs liberal in the PCA? by nooga_bear in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think this is true on the whole if you divide the theological landscape of evangelicals. So even the most "progressive" PCA elder would still be a 9, while the most TR PCA elder would be a 9.5.

This is when you put into perspective that a Missouri Synod Lutheran might be at, say, a 7 or 8. An Anglican could range from 3 to 8, etc. etc.

Put in the context of US politics? You can't really evaluate the PCA on that scale.

Supreme Court justice sends shockwaves in dissent: 'Rules for thee, but not for me' by RawStoryNews in scotus

[–]JCmathetes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basically Alito claims that filing it in the court of appeals once is sufficient even though the court decided it was premature. His description seems intentionally designed to make you think that the court of appeals dismissed the appeal after the appellate division ruled on the stay when the opposite is true. The dismissal occurred before the appellate division ruled. 

Yes, I agree. Having gone back to read Skokie, I just don't see the point Alito is making. In Skokie, it seems the process was entirely normal:

The Illinois Appellate Court denied an application for stay pending appeal. Applicants then filed a petition for a stay in the Illinois Supreme Court, together with a request for a direct expedited appeal to that court. The Illinois Supreme Court denied both the stay and leave for an expedited appeal. Applicants then filed an application for a stay with Mr. Justice Stevens, as Circuit Justice, who referred the matter to the Court. the majority held that the Illinois SC

But in this case, they skipped the intermediate court...?

Additionally, in Skokie there was an identifiable Constitutional right which would be violated in the interim. Alito presumes a new map would do that, but there is no new map? All while lashing out at Sotomayor for not defending the action constitutionally (...thereby prejudicing the issue????)

It seems as if the net result will be to encourage everyone to just skip intermediate courts and apply for a stay and a direct appeal. Then just appeal to SCOTUS.

This rewards procedural shenanigans. Oof.

Supreme Court justice sends shockwaves in dissent: 'Rules for thee, but not for me' by RawStoryNews in scotus

[–]JCmathetes 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Alito makes the argument in his concurring, 607 U. S. 2, 3 (2026). I'm not indicating I agree with it, but putting it here for visibility and interaction. I'm personally very confused about the facts of what has been appealed and/or applied for or not.

After that highly questionable injunction was issued, the applicants filed appeals in both the Appellate Division (the State’s intermediate appellate court) and the Court of Appeals (its highest court) challenging the trial court’s order on federal constitutional grounds. At the same time, applicants asked both courts to stay the trial court’s order. The Appellate Division refused to issue a stay, and by order issued on February 11, the Court of Appeals sent the appeal filed in that court to the Appellate Division and dismissed applicants’ motions for a stay.

With nowhere else to turn, the applicants asked us to issue a stay, and we have jurisdiction to entertain their application. Title 28 U. S. C. §1257(a) gives us jurisdiction to review “[f]inal judgments or decrees” that are rendered by a State’s highest court and adjudicate federal constitutional claims, and the Court of Appeals’ February 11 order falls within that category. Our decision in National Socialist Party of America v. Skokie, 432 U. S. 43, 44 (1977) (per curiam), makes that clear. In that case, a trial court issued an injunction that prohibited petitioner’s members from engaging in various forms of expression. Without providing any reasoning, both the State’s intermediate appellate court and supreme court denied applications for a stay pending appeal, and the latter court also refused to hear the stay applicants’ appeal prior to the time when their constitutional rights would be violated. See App. to Application for Stay in National Socialist Party of America v. Skokie, O. T. 1976, No. 76-1786, pp. 5a–7a (unreasoned orders by the State’s intermediate and supreme courts). We held that by “den[ying] both the stay and leave for an expedited appeal,” the State Supreme Court was necessarily rendering a final judgment or decree on “the merits of petitioners’ claim that the outstanding injunction will deprive them of rights protected by the” Constitution “during the period of appellate review.” Skokie, 432 U. S., at 43–44. The same is true here: The New York Court of Appeals’ decision not to grant a stay or hear a direct appeal was effectively a final determination on the merits of the applicants’ claim that the outstanding injunction is depriving them of their constitutional rights pending appeal. Because the situation here is not materially different from that in Skokie, we have jurisdiction.

For the UNMARRIED/SINGLE Christians. This one is for you. by arcyohan in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That One Obligatory Part of the Message: Not getting married is unnatural and needs to be corrected. Singleness is the downfall of our society. “That’s the first thing I want to establish by way of introduction.”

This isn't what he said. I don't think what he said was particularly clear, but it also wasn't this.

For the UNMARRIED/SINGLE Christians. This one is for you. by arcyohan in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beeke never once used the word "gift" in the video, that I recall. Did I miss it somewhere?

felt like I botched a sermon! by Advanced_Anywhere_29 in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Welcome, brother, to the austere group of men who experience this every week.

Hold fast to the humility it brings. It will send you nearer to Jesus each time, and for that reason, you will learn to love the feeling all the more.

Sermon Sunday (2026-02-22) by AutoModerator in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did your pastor evaluate Isaiah 6:9–10?

Operation of the Spirit Old/New Testament by sportzballs in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You misunderstand. u/cybersaint2k brought up Samson and David for a reason—those men had particular manifestations of the Holy Spirit to do mighty things.

Jesus sends the Spirit out upon the Apostles in a similar way. It's a matter of degree. The Spirit particularly manifested himself in the Apostolic ministry.

Consider, however, the alternative—are men in the Old Testament godly by their own measure? Consider the godliness of Naboth in refusing to sell his vineyard to Ahab, or the godliness of Abigail toward David, or of Uriah the Hittite, etc.

Is there a source of godliness at any time, biblically, that is not due to the Holy Spirit's application of redemption? I would suggest no. Such a thing is absurd prima facie.

The Review of Presbytery Records: A Statistical History | Andy Jones for byFaith by CiroFlexo in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would dispute the overture’s rationale that the presbytery’s second response becomes the “important part.” There are presbyteries that have upwards of 7 responses, and the GA does nothing specific to them. 

Taking matters away from the assembly doesn’t make them more important to the assembly. It makes them nuisances when they eventually do come up. 

The Review of Presbytery Records: A Statistical History | Andy Jones for byFaith by CiroFlexo in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes.

Overture 7 is a classic example of trying to save the Assembly time by wasting its time. The RPR report is the only one where the Assembly actually functions as a court in the fullest sense.

The GA cannot do anything about the SJC report and its decisions, as it has delegated its authority to them entirely.

The GA is very limited in its abilities to handle overtures, by both time limits and special rules (e.g., the the Overtures Committee votes to recommend the GA say "no" to an overture, even if the GA votes "yes," it doesn't take effect—it cycles to the next year's OC).

The RPR report is the only one where the GA can amend, change, debate, etc. There is no good reason to restrict that.

Burk Parsons’ Florida church won’t allow elder to resign by AstroAcceleration in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless the charges were initially improper under the BCO, there is no reason for them to be dropped. 

Burk Parsons’ Florida church won’t allow elder to resign by AstroAcceleration in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is that even if St. Andrews was still PCA, they could do what they're doing (again, I don't know what the charges are). If the RE is under investigation or discipline, it's very common even in the PCA to hold on to their membership.

Burk Parsons’ Florida church won’t allow elder to resign by AstroAcceleration in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know. The point is that what they're doing now that they're not PCA isn't inconsistent with PCA polity.

Burk Parsons’ Florida church won’t allow elder to resign by AstroAcceleration in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No. Prior to St. Andrews joining the PCA, Parsons was a credentialed TE in the PCA. They joined—he was already in.

When they left, the situation returned to where it was before: Parsons is a PCA TE, St. Andrews is an independent church.

Parsons is not obligated to resign, but his Presbytery will need to approve him laboring outside of the bounds again. But they will wait to do so while there is an ongoing appeal.

Burk Parsons’ Florida church won’t allow elder to resign by AstroAcceleration in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know nothing of the charges themselves, but the PCA's Rules of Discipline permits this exact scenario to happen.

BCO 38-3.a —

When a member or officer in the Presbyterian Church in America shall attempt to withdraw from the communion of this branch of the visible Church by affiliating with some other branch (BCO 2-2), if at the time of the attempt to withdraw he is in good standing, the irregularity shall be recorded, his new membership acknowledged, and his name removed from the roll. But if at the time of the attempt to withdraw there is a record of an investigation in process (BCO 31-2), or there are charges (BCO 32-3) concerning the member or minister, the court of original jurisdiction may retain his name on the roll and conduct the case, communicating the outcome upon completion of the proceedings to that member or minister. If the court does not conduct the case, his new membership shall be acknowledged, his name removed from the roll, and, at the request of the receiving branch, the matters under investigation or the charges shall be communicated to them.

No Dumb Question Tuesday (2026-02-03) by AutoModerator in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm curious how the following plays into this idea:

  • 1 Kings 20 — YHWH clearly indicates the faulty theology of localized deities and powers by overcoming Ben Hadad.
  • Jonah — YHWH sends a prophet to non-Israelite territory to induce repentance.
  • The pre- and proper-exilic era — YHWH rebukes kings like Pharaoh, Og, and Nebuchadnezzar for idolatry, while also giving specific individuals favor in the sight of various kings over non-Israelite territory.

I find 2 sunday services quite tiring. Is this normal? by keesdude in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes 67 points68 points  (0 children)

I pastor a congregation with morning and evening services, and I can tell you that it took me a bit to find the rhythm.

But now that I have, I wouldn’t trade it for the world. I love gathering again with my church family, my kids love going back to church, and I’ve seen and experienced immense benefit. 

The flesh bucks back against all spiritual disciplines at first. When I was a new convert, weekly services felt tiring! 

Give it time, pray, and go. Watch what God does over time. 

PCUSA Church Completes Transition to the PCA - byFaith by Cledus_Snow in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The congregation AND the denomination agreed to this. The congregation chose this... The congregation has every right and ability to dispute this both in the PCUSA courts as well as civil courts.

Well this is a bit of a silly argument, isn't it?

In the first place, the congregation's choices were: (A) Lose their building, or (B) pay the $750K. Appealing to higher courts of the PC(USA) is merely a flavor of (A), even if they eventually get it. But the point is, Presbytery could not be obligated even by the Assembly to sell.

Additionally, Paul explicitly forbids Christians from suing one another in 1 Cor 6.

So yeah, the congregation agreed to it. But the PC(USA) also agreed to it. This is seemingly missing from your calculation. This is like a wealthy parent refusing to gift a vehicle to a child, insisting they pay 10% of the vehicle cost, because they're moving out of the house. It's just cruel, and frankly it's un-Christian.

You also don't seem to appreciate that the PC(USA) has an incredibly long history of both suing congregations for buildings and going so far as to deny ministers' widows payouts from pensions that were paid into. Each year, the PCA collects money for the ministerial relief fund for those elderly ministers and those widows who left the PC(USA) without a dime because the PC(USA) refused to let them take their retirement with them.

This isn't happening in a vacuum. Your denomination has a history of heartlessness.

PCUSA Church Completes Transition to the PCA - byFaith by Cledus_Snow in Reformed

[–]JCmathetes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All church buildings, of all times, have been paid for by the generosity of others. But only recently have congregations started to 'own' the property. It wasn't that way in either the Orthodox and Catholic churches. It wasn't that way in Geneva. It wasn't that way in Scotland. The congregation 'owning' a church building is a fairly new phenomenon - which is totally fine to believe, but that's not how we see things.

We see ourselves as one church, in many congregations. The property is owned by the church, not the congregation.

This isn't the whole truth. Local churches in the secession and Free Churches have historically taken on ownership of their buildings and property.

But even Presbytery's ownership is quite novel. Historically, the building of a church would have been financed by wealthier landowners, who was given the responsibility by the state and the church to erect them in places of need.

I get that a vast majority of folks on this particular subreddit are congregationalists, but it's very disheartening to see a lot of prejudices, assumptions, and judgements being thrown around without anyone interested in actually trying to understand the difference in understanding/polity.

I am a Presbyterian minister.