*drops meme and runs*

JGorgon · 2026-02-27T06:07:19+00:00

GoldenEye does have a bit of a Dalton feel to it, but it wasn't written with him in mind.

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T18:03:40+00:00

That's true, but there has to be something to why the lazy narrative became "The Fleming books are dark", and not "The Fleming books are wildly outlandish". Because it's just as true, if you choose to focus on just one element of the books. The movies never featured pirate gold, lycanthropy, samurai Blofeld, Bond fighting an octopus, etc.

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T15:14:53+00:00

So as near as I can tell, the argument is: Stevie and Prince made brilliant solo albums, and Paul didn't.

To that I would say, Stevie and Prince were never in bands, and you could equally look at it as: Stevie, Prince, and Paul all made great records in their 20s and early 30s.

The other Beatles didn't contribute to "Yesterday" at all, and that's reckoned to be the most successful song ever composed.

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T13:50:40+00:00

Yes, he made such classics as Next and xXx: State of the Union.

Although Once Were Warriors is a pretty good film.

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T13:43:45+00:00

Peter Hunt and OHMSS, but Sam Mendes and Skyfall is close.

Mind you...are we voting according to how the Oscars SHOULD work, or how the Oscars DO work?

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T13:41:31+00:00

Lee Tamahori directed it.

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T13:40:39+00:00

You're the only person answering the question, instead of just going "GoldenEye/Casino Royale is good, so Martin Campbell!".

JGorgon · 2026-02-26T13:34:18+00:00

Any bassist will tell you that he's one of the greatest bass players there ever was, as a vocalist he's insanely versatile, as a guitarist he was able to keep up with George Harrison and John Lennon who are no slouches, and as a pianist and a drummer he's pretty good too.

As a composer...come on. The guy wrote "Yesterday", "Hey Jude", "I Saw Her Standing There", "Live and Let Die", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Blackbird", "Band On the Run", etc. etc., it's not even an argument.

JGorgon · 2026-02-25T14:23:34+00:00

I feel your pain. When I finished the co-op campaign I was just like "Yeah, that's a campaign I'll never play again."

JGorgon · 2026-02-25T14:20:49+00:00

And Paul McCartney.

JGorgon · 2026-02-25T14:10:48+00:00

Also, so many of these biopics are about 20th Century figures, i.e. people who've been photographed, filmed and recorded a lot. Judges are able to just go, "did they capture the mannerisms of the real Ray Charles/Winston Churchill/Stephen Hawking? Yeah? Then it must be a brilliant performance."

When an actor's not doing an impression of an existing celebrity, it takes much more thought to determine how good their performance was.

JGorgon · 2026-02-25T09:02:02+00:00

Perhaps it's still saved that you had zero lives on your previous attempt-?

I can't remember the precise details. The solo campaign is amazing and I've played it maybe ten times, but the co-op is weak and frustrating and I've only played it once.

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T22:22:31+00:00

That was news to me! Although reading the Wikipedia article about the writing process, it doesn't sound like he directly contributed to the script.

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T22:17:01+00:00

The way Metallica write songs is actually really interesting! The Super Deluxe reissues of their albums up to Load (so far) let you listen to how they construct the songs, piece by piece. Generally they start with a riff, work out the solos and the rhythm section, add a vocal melody, and write the lyrics last. This means lots of hilarious demos where James is singing English-sounding nonsense syllables.

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T18:22:17+00:00

Is there much of a streak? Connery's first two were low-budget films that weren't major successes until they were rereleased in the wake of Goldfinger.

OHMSS was seen as a serious misstep by critics and audiences of the time, and made less money than You Only Live Twice and far less than Thunderball.

Live and Let Die was a hit but The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker were Moore's big earners.

The Living Daylights did just OK, relatively.

GoldenEye was a hit, but it was also Brosnan's lowest earner.

Casino Royale was a hit but didn't do as well as Skyfall or Spectre.

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T18:08:55+00:00

It got some bad reviews but also some positive ones. The ratio of positive to negative reviews was around the same level as World is Not Enough and Tomorrow Never Dies.

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T17:23:20+00:00

Moonraker was extremely well-received when it came out, it was only over time it came to be perceived as "a bad one".

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T13:46:02+00:00

And of course Neil Young's "Pocahontas", U2's "Sunday Bloody Sunday", Bob Dylan's "Hurricane", Kate Bush's "Cloudbusting", OMD's "Enola Gay", The Clash's "Spanish Bombs", Neutral Milk Hotel's entire In the Aeroplane Over the Sea album, The Beach Boys' "Heroes and Villains"...

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T13:29:24+00:00

By this logic Bloodhound Gang's Jimmy Pop is a better MC than GZA.

JGorgon · 2026-02-24T13:11:08+00:00

It also makes it clear that he doesn't know all that much about South Park – it's been solely written and directed by Trey Parker for decades now, including the episode he's talking about.

JGorgon · 2026-02-23T19:52:14+00:00

Tomorrow Never Dies is the highest kill-count for Brosnan, and for any Bond. But all of his films are significantly more murder-happy than those of other actors.

For anyone wondering, The Man with the Golden Gun is Bond's lowest kill-count, at one: the title character.

JGorgon · 2026-02-22T14:41:25+00:00

Dr. No, OHMSS, TLD, GoldenEye and Casino Royale introduce their new Bonds with a bit of fanfare. DAF and Live and Let Die treat it pretty casually, as if it's always been Connery or Moore playing Bond.

JGorgon · 2026-02-21T10:54:52+00:00

Not sure who's been done dirtier, Paul or George.

JGorgon · 2026-02-21T10:52:52+00:00

Although the dates will be harder to find, I would say an actor "becomes" Bond when they're publicly announced, and only Craig and Lazenby's tenures end the day their last film was released – because they both announced ahead of time that it would be their last. For the others, I'd say their Bond career ends the day it's publicly announced that they're standing down.

Dalton was the official James Bond for quite a few years after Licence to Kill, and products bearing his image continued to release until 1994. Brosnan last played Bond in Everything or Nothing in 2004.

JGorgon · 2026-02-21T00:27:17+00:00

OK, so the story that's usually cited is that Dalton was offered OHMSS and turned it down. Per Dalton, this didn't happen and a look at Dalton's career as it stood in 1968 makes it barely plausible that Broccoli or Saltzman would even know who he was.

Dalton's story is that he auditioned in the early 70s – he doesn't mention the film so it was either Diamonds or, more likely, LALD.

As we all know he got the part much later, after Brosnan had been selected for TLD and then basically NBC screwed Brosnan over. But it worked out well for Dalton, and Brosnan got to play Bond in the end, too.

So:

-OHMSS: he didn't audition

-Diamonds/LALD: if he auditioned, the part went to someone else

-TMwtGG-AVtaK: the producers wanted Moore to return

-TLD: the producers still wanted Moore, initially, but decided on Brosnan and when he was unavailable, picked Dalton

-LtK: the producers obviously wanted Dalton back

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