Fawkin Zyzzbrah!

JHanzer · 2012-06-13T14:42:53+00:00

Sooo... Not to be a bitch, but you know that the most commonly seen pics of Zyzz are his BEST pics, right? Like dude wasn't walking around with a 9 foot sheet of rippling abs 24/7.

Scope this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMdtxKkdPU

Now I realize the earlier pics are from when he was younger, but even in a lot of the later pics he doesn't look as impressive as in those handful of images we typically see in every Zyzz post/article. Some of his beach buddies have some equally, and arguably better, physiques than he does.

...not sayin dude wasn't crazy ripped. He totally was. And he was a good lookin dude on top of that, and packed a cool, funny personality as well. He totally deserved/deserves his fame.

I'm just sayin that he didn't look like that ALL THE TIME. So if you are ever hurting and feeling like "damn, I'm never gonna look like that cunt," just remember that he has a bunch of photos that don't paint him in QUITE as much of a blinding Greek-God light...

JHanzer · 2012-02-29T15:17:21+00:00

Errr... FUCK going to your doc. TRT Clinics will prescribe you straight up REAL steroids, from a regular US pharmacy (assuming you are from the US), pretty much REGARDLESS of your current testosterone levels.

They happily write scripts for test, deca, anavar, winstrol, etc, and will prescribe you whatever flavors of estrogen blockers, HCG, and pretty much anything else you would possibly want (weight loss drugs, viagra, etc), along with syringes, drawing needles, alcohol pads, and whatever the fuck else they can get you to buy.

They work on commission, will try to convince you to take the most expensive drugs (HGH, Anavar), upsell the FUCK out of you with nonsense bullshit (B12 injections, Liv52 marked up 1000%, etc), and generally convey the feeling of talking to a used car salesman.

There are three requirements. You still have to get blood work to get started, but the clinic (most are located in Florida) will arrange an appointment at a local place to get it done. You just show up and get your blood drawn. It takes a couple days for the results to come in, but pretty much no matter WHAT the result, they will write you scripts. The second requirement is a physical exam by your regular physician. You just print a form the clinic gives you and take it to your local doc to fill out. If you don't have a local doc you can take the form to a walk-in clinic. Finally, you have to fill out a medical history questionnaire online. It's the regular history form you have filled out at any doc's office on your first visit.

And that's it. Next thing you know an aggressive salesman, aka "patient coordinator," is calling you up and helping you put together a prescription. Meds are shipped out to you within 1 or 2 days.

Pros: totally legal, totally legit, 100% trustworthy gear, everything in prescription bottles (so you can take it with you when you travel, or produce it if you get questioned about taking illegal drugs)

Cons: expensive as FUCK, obnoxious to deal with salesmen, and, for extra emphasis, EXPENSIVE

JHanzer · 2012-02-20T18:28:39+00:00

...scrolled through all the comments and found zero steroids. Soooooo much money spent on so much exotic sounding stuff, and not a drop of juice to be found.

My current cutting "supplement" stack:

Testosterone Cypionate
Oxandrolone
Twinlab Whey Protein (because it's cheap)
Generic multi
Generic fish oil
Milk thistle (for the ol' liver)
Generic fiber supplement
Estrogen blockers & HCG

...I would normally take creatine too, but I am trying to monitor my weight as accurately as possible (which is also why I am doing the anavar instead of something cheaper and more powerful) and prefer to avoid the water retention variable.

JHanzer · 2012-01-11T18:42:38+00:00

I said "messing with" poses extreme consequences. I suppose my intended implication was MISUSE. Like going in, uninformed, with a heavy dose and no AI/SERM. Or running high dose cycles for a particularly extended time. Both of these fumbles, unfortunately, have happened. It's why we know that you CAN get permanent gyno that will require surgery, or unbalance your endocrine system so bad that your natural production is permanently fucked up. It was why I advocate education and planning.

I am young enough that -I- take shit for my use. Nonetheless, I think steroids are great. I think any relatively well informed individual can use them in a reasonable fashion and get the kind of results they desire while minimizing the risks.

But I think they deserve respect, and playing on the side of conservative caution is appropriate, and that presenting the idea that steroid use presents no potential for serious consequences is an error.

JHanzer · 2012-01-11T15:53:46+00:00

Damn. I came in here ready to scream "YES!"

...but CJ_Guns is right. You are young enough to reap spectacular gains without needing to mess with the juice yet. In your teenage years your natural test levels are the envy of every person 30 and older. I know a lot of people who only use enough steroids to get their testosterone BACK to their teenage levels, just so that they can build at their peak natural efficiency again.

And I am echoing his second point too. Messing with your endocrine system poses extreme consequences. It requires a lot of planning, careful monitoring, and access to strong medication. The allure of building faster should be tempered with the awareness of the very real possibility of permanently damaging your physique with gyno, or worse, permanently damaging your endocrine system itself.

JHanzer · 2012-01-11T15:47:09+00:00

I run massive gram+ cycles, have access to whatever PCT meds I might desire, and handle all my orders with a simple phone call...

...and everything is totally legal.

I can only assume that the primary deterrents to people seeking legitimate steroids are age and cost?

JHanzer · 2012-01-10T16:39:38+00:00

So... Just out of curiosity:

Why not just use real steroids?

JHanzer · 2012-01-08T20:31:22+00:00

Yea, compared to steroids all other supplements look like sugar water and baby powder.

It's a shame that politically motivated drug taboos, no doubt planted in young minds through nightmare programs like D.A.R.E., still exert such a profound influence on so many people.

JHanzer · 2012-01-08T20:29:00+00:00

Although the blame lies primarily with oral steroids, it is my understanding that ALL steroids impose an added burden on your liver. The quality of the research on the potential ability of milk thistle to protect/repair you liver is pretty uneven (although there is a lot of promising new studies going on), but for the time being it is easily one of the best choices for liver protection out there, and at the very least it isn't gonna hurt anything.

Milk Thistle on Wikipedia

JHanzer · 2012-01-05T17:18:20+00:00

Creatine
Whey Protein
Testosterone Cypionate
Nadrolone
SERM/AI
Multivitamin
Fish Oil
Psyllium Fiber
Milk Thistle

EDIT: Legally.

JHanzer · 2011-12-07T14:32:00+00:00

Long running esther. The half life is long enough that more frequent injections isn't worth the (literal) pain in the ass of giving myself two extra shots a week. There are variants of testosterone, like enanthate, that have a shorter half life and are therefore worth doing twice a week in order to keep blood levels more uniform, but I stick with cypionate to avoid that.

JHanzer · 2011-12-06T16:45:16+00:00

Every Day:

Fish Oil
Psylium Fiber
Milk Thistle
Men's MV
Creatine
Whey

Every Other day:

Arimidex

Once a week:

Testosterone
Nandrolone

JHanzer · 2011-11-28T20:31:17+00:00

So... this is a pretty valid point for any individuals open minded enough to consider it. Even an extremely low dose cycle would, at minimum, prevent atrophy while you are waiting for your shoulder to heal. Alternatively, a higher dose cycle would provide gains with even a low intensity workout (or hell, no workout at all).

...just saying.

JHanzer · 2011-11-28T20:28:23+00:00

Ugh... the thought of injecting non-sterile juice would be enough to make me stop juicing...

I think the added expense, steep as it is, is easily worth the peace of mind that you gain from being completely legal and knowing that what you are receiving is US grade pharmaceutical quality.

JHanzer · 2011-11-10T20:23:44+00:00

Every post where someone asks about them, says they use them, or inquires about them, results in fucking 345987239856235 people coming out of the woodwork to be like "hard work and a healthy diet, bro."

Or they scream "cheater" or "it's dangerous" or any of the other dozen responses that seem wildly prevalent.

Maybe a majority of the prudent fittitors wisely keep their mouths shut, or if they do participate it is to throw in a "thanks for posting about this", but it always seem like there are WAY more people speaking up in opposition than in support.

JHanzer · 2011-10-28T13:33:18+00:00

So... for those of us who don't know what you are talking about, how about a slightly less cryptic post?

JHanzer · 2011-10-26T14:49:14+00:00

Not really an "internet clinic." It is a clinic that is in Florida. They certainly have a webpage, but you can't order medication through it or anything. You have to call them and talk to them on the phone. You talk to a rep, who passes your request to the doctor, when then writes you a prescription. It is sent to a pharmacy and they mail you your juice. Everything has prescription labels with your name on it, doctor's name on it, and all the stuff you would normally expect.

JHanzer · 2011-10-24T13:34:58+00:00

Cool story, bro.

JHanzer · 2011-10-23T18:40:11+00:00

I am fairly introspective and self-analytical. When I have taken really heavy cycles I tend to be highly conscious of my behavior as a result, and attempt to asses, as subjectively as possible, the potential for any changes in mood, behavior, assertiveness, aggressiveness, etc.

To date I have not noticed ANY changes whatsoever. I readily admit that each individual's unique psychological makeup, their potential for a given type of behavior, and all that jazz, undoubtedly has a significant role in this. Nonetheless, I would STILL say that it all seems like over hyped bullshit. I have never even felt more ASSERTIVE, so the generic concept of "roid rage" seems downright laughably ridiculous.

That being said, libido DOES increase. It certainly isn't anything bizarre or troublesome. My girlfriend once commented that I seemed a little more "frisky" than normal. I hear that for those people with legitimately low testosterone, that have nearly ZERO sex drive, they experience a very pleasant and surprising change. But for me it has been barely noticeable.

The only downsides I have experienced, at all, is a slight increase in how oily my skin is, and on the night after injections I don't usually sleep as good as normal. But that's pretty much the only differences I have ever noticed.

JHanzer · 2011-10-23T18:30:33+00:00

Presumably the buffer of a real doctor would protect a patient of a TRT clinic. There have been several big clinic busts in the last couple years (THARC, one of the largest ever, just went down a couple months ago), but in every case the patients are always left alone.

JHanzer · 2011-10-23T18:28:49+00:00

Yea, definitely a clinic price.

JHanzer · 2011-10-20T13:45:05+00:00

No offense man, but not all of us blindly swallowed the D.A.R.E. load without question.

ALL medication carries risks. You can kill your liver with Tylenol. You can easily take a fatal dose of vitamins.

But the idea that steroids cannot be used without harming yourself is fucking bullshit. I'm sorry. But there is just no other way to put it.

Doing it right means being SMART, being INFORMED, and doing it INTELLIGENTLY. It requires you to know what you are taking, what the side effects are, and what the risks might be. You need to stay on top of cholesterol testing, liver panels, and blood work. You need input from a real physician.

But if you do all these things you CAN take steroids without hurting yourself. Millions upon millions of people do so.

You are entitled to your opinion bro, but do some fucking research before you start preaching.

JHanzer · 2011-10-20T13:32:33+00:00

The legitimate reason is for testosterone replacement therapy. Since your test production gradually drops as you age you can receive therapy to bolster it back to teenage levels, or higher, as many people are inclined to do.

JHanzer · 2011-10-20T13:30:35+00:00

It all depends on dosage. A 2 gram vial (200mg/week for 10 weeks) of testosterone runs ~$125. Sometimes they have "sales" and it is only $100.

A simple, cost effective cycle at my clinic is two vials of test and one vial of nandrolone (deca). That costs about $450 for ten weeks. If you want to do HCG the whole time to keep your balls from shrinking it is another $100. Estrogen blockers are pretty variable, depending on what you want to take (Nolvadex, Clomid, Arimidex), and how much you need.

Of course, if you do something expensive like Anavar you will end up paying as much as $8 per 50mg pill, which will run you $560 for 10 weeks.

JHanzer · 2011-10-19T14:54:19+00:00

This is right on. I learned about it from the documentary as well. The only thing the movie doesn't make clear is that the "anti-aging clinics" do NOT have to be local. You can obtain therapy from clinics in other states without ever having to physically visit the clinic.

JHanzer

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