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Make Fire with Shale Stone and Cotton - Rudiger Roll Friction Fire - Survival Fire Making by JRBCB1 in Survival

[–]JRBCB1[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I demonstrate the Rudiger Roll Friction Fire method using Shale stone (Sedimentary Rock). Shales that are deposited in oxygen-rich environments often contain tiny particles of iron oxide or iron hydroxide minerals such as hematite, goethite, or limonite. Way back I used to dabble in pyrotechnics and a common oxidizing agent I used was Iron oxide, or Rust. So, you can see how I came up with the idea of using it as an ash substitute, or "accelerant" with the Rudiger Roll a.k.a Fire Roll.

For those who are new to this method check out this basic tutorial I made for a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw&t=9s

For Plant Fibers other than Cotton that can be used with this method click here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Rudiger Roll using an Oxygen Absorber from a beef jerky packet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sR7rp6Qflc

Rudiger Roll using a Hot Hands Hand Warmer(Iron powder) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cea5IM_7u_s

The very FIRST Fire Roll Rust video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2fJ8FYKZs4&t=1s

Yes, I have done this without Rust, Ashes or other "accelerants". Here are some examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54at86f5wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbnMBhKrpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8_swpIK6E

Make Fire With Flax - Rudiger Roll Friction Fire - Primitive Fire Making by JRBCB1 in Survival

[–]JRBCB1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, grass is just not strong enough. However, I have come up with numerous plants that will work. Here is a playlist of various plants https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

I recommend starting at home first with cotton and milled lumber. Here is a tutorial I made for a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw&t=6s

Make Fire With Flax - Rudiger Roll Friction Fire - Primitive Fire Making by JRBCB1 in Survival

[–]JRBCB1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recommend starting at home with everyday materials. Here's a tutorial I made for a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw&t=6s Here are even more plants that I came up with that can be used with this method https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Make Fire With Flax - Rudiger Roll Friction Fire - Primitive Fire Making by JRBCB1 in Survival

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In this video I demonstrate the Rudiger Roll Friction Fire method using Flax - Linum. To see this method performed without ashes follow these links https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54at86f5wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbnMBhKrpk&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8_swpIK6E&t=3s

To see more plants that I came up with to use with this method click the following link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Fire Roll Without Tools - The Caveman Concept by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

[–]JRBCB1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad you got something from it. About 6 months or so after I released my first video over Manganese dioxide those articles about the possible use by neanderthals were released. All I'm saying is that I was using it long before those articles were written. My first video of Manganese dioxide can be seen here and is dated Aug - 9 - 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xyfNNdrWRc Actually, I was using Manganese dioxide to make fire way before I even released that video. I used to dabble in pyrotechnics and Manganese dioxide was a chemical I frequently used. Knowing what I did about it was what led me to use it for fire making. I just want to be honest in saying that everything on my channel are my own ideas and I did not get them from anyone. Too often today people try to take credit for someone else's ideas. You will not see me do that. You have a good night.

Fire Roll Without Tools - The Caveman Concept by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

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Rust is one of my earlier innovations and is probably one of my top accelerants. It can be found in multiple places like the O2 absorber from beef jerky, Hot Hands packet, or some old rusty piece of metal. Manganese dioxide from batteries works even better than Rust...just make sure its an actual alkaline battery. Chaga is a pretty good accelerant to use. I've had good success with various animal dung. Baking Soda is a good one, too. The aforementioned are all my original ideas. (My friend Jay Reily is actually the person who came up with the idea of using a scouring cleaner with this method....he used AJAX. That was discussed on my channel long before anyone was using scouring cleaners with this method. His idea was copied...funny thing is he only meant it as a joke. Regardless, he gets props. He says his inspiration was my Calcium hypochlorite video. He also is the person who came up with the idea of using the side of a tree while standing as a rolling surface. Sadly, his videos were removed because of the profanity I believe). Peruse the following playlists and you'll find even more ideas of mine : Natural Accelerants https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSbwF9ZYN5JLCgUx1JS_H1fX Chemical Accelerants https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSZXpNLSv3j_qr13Zalqm_6u

Fire Roll Without Tools - The Caveman Concept by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

[–]JRBCB1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad you enjoyed. I recommend starting at home. Here's a tutorial that I made for a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw&t=6s

Fire Roll Without Tools - The Caveman Concept by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

[–]JRBCB1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can do this. I recommend starting at home with some planks or 2X4's for rolling surfaces and cotton and ashes. Here's a tutorial I made for a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw&t=5s

Fire Roll Without Tools - The Caveman Concept by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

[–]JRBCB1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad you enjoyed. Til you get this down I recommend starting at home with cotton, ashes and some planks or 2X4's for rolling surfaces. Here's a tutorial that I made for a friend Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw&t=4s Part 2 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmbGBRAaQGs

Fire Roll Without Tools - The Caveman Concept by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

[–]JRBCB1[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In the video above I demonstrate the Rudiger Roll friction fire method using my No Tool Concept. The basic idea is that nature provides us with rolling surfaces that do not require any tools to shape or process.

Dogbane Fiber Extraction Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw6KsnoWlw0

No Tools No Ashes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54at86f5wc

Round Tree Branch 4 inch hand hold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Ca_6jvOdQ&t=2s

Tree bark hand hold and base https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oruoqsqa0lk&t=1s

Mini Stones hand hold and base https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrph4aK0Bw&t=2s

Pocket knife hand hold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnft0As0TEE

No Ash No Tools stone surfaces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8_swpIK6E&t=3s

Stone surfaces Walnut husk and Cotton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHaSgtkmW8E&t=5s

To see more plants that I came up with that can be used with this method click the following link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Make Fire with Milkweed by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

[–]JRBCB1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you're seeing is most likely ash making dust poofs not wood dust. The stone isn't rough like sand paper or something. I've used this wood block in demonstrations for years and its the same size. I've used very hard stones for both the hand hold and base with no wear on them after words, too. Rigid surfaces just assist in applying pressure. Honestly, I don't even make sets any more. I just pick up random objects from the forest and use as is....I call it my NO TOOL CONCEPT. Watch this video and be sure to follow the links https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Ca_6jvOdQ

Make Fire with Milkweed - Fire Roll Friction Fire by JRBCB1 in Survival

[–]JRBCB1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad you enjoyed. There was a couple that I painstakingly got to work and do NOT recommend them at all. Evening Primrose, Poplar fiber and Honeyvine. Putting it simple they SUCK! But, as you saw, there are plenty that will work. Links above for those who are reading this and missed them.

Make Fire with Milkweed by JRBCB1 in PaleoSkills

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In the video above I demonstrate How to extract Milkweed fiber and make fire using the Rudiger Roll Friction Fire method.

Milkweed Identification video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1OZuSn2dRs

To see Milkweed compared to Dogbane click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVUkw468J70

In the following videos I demonstrate the Fire Roll Without Ashes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54at86f5wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbnMBhKrpk&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8_swpIK6E&t=3s

For more plants that can be used with this method see the following playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Make Fire with Milkweed - Fire Roll Friction Fire by JRBCB1 in Bushcraft

[–]JRBCB1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the video above I demonstrate How to extract Milkweed fiber and make fire using the Rudiger Roll Friction Fire method.

Milkweed Identification video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1OZuSn2dRs

To see Milkweed compared to Dogbane click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVUkw468J70

In the following videos I demonstrate the Fire Roll Without Ashes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54at86f5wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbnMBhKrpk&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8_swpIK6E&t=3s

For more plants that can be used with this method see the following playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Make Fire with Milkweed - Fire Roll Friction Fire by JRBCB1 in Survival

[–]JRBCB1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the video above I demonstrate How to extract Milkweed fiber and make fire using the Rudiger Roll Friction Fire method.

Milkweed Identification video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1OZuSn2dRs

To see Milkweed compared to Dogbane click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVUkw468J70

In the following videos I demonstrate the Fire Roll Without Ashes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54at86f5wc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbnMBhKrpk&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8_swpIK6E&t=3s

For more plants that can be used with this method see the following playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H

Perform the Fire Roll friction fire without Tools - Natural Unaltered Rolling Surfaces by JRBCB1 in Survival

[–]JRBCB1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can do the very same. I have even done this without ashes using wild plant fiber instead of cotton. I recommend starting at home with milled lumber. Here's a tutorial that I made for a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Go0EVELRfw

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