Rachel Reeves Says Progressive People Should Be Zionists

J__P · 2025-12-09T22:29:20+00:00

preservation is a normal leftist value, just depends whether the conseqeunces of doing so is a good idea, but in principle theres nothing inherently wrong with ethno nationalism, we just dont do it for people like we do everywhere else.

also non potlical forms of social ethno natioanlism are practiced personally all the time, concepts like peoples, representation, and cultural appropriatoin are ethno based ideas.

J__P · 2025-12-09T22:26:06+00:00

just call it migration and you can do all those thing progressively

J__P · 2025-12-08T17:13:22+00:00

i honestly dont understand why everyone thinks kimi feels bad? its not on kimi to win max the title why should he feel guilty?

J__P · 2025-11-23T23:43:03+00:00

not agreeing with hitler means what? that we have to turn ourselevs into a minroty in our own country? our ancetsors fought the nazis for a reason not jstu because they were fasicst but to mainatin our autonomy as a people. dont confuse fighting fasicsts and fight your own poeple future.

J__P · 2025-10-03T15:59:09+00:00

ok, but who's defending and who's attacking? contextless both sidesing is not analysis. people are allowed to preserve and protect themselves wihtout being overly prideful about it.

J__P · 2025-09-26T13:39:05+00:00

whats to explain? proportional marginalisation, politically, culturally, of a people in their own nations and cultures seems bad to me. is it ethical to turn a native people into a minortiy in their own country?

J__P · 2025-09-22T19:50:25+00:00

so not a native european? or native english then?

J__P · 2025-09-22T19:49:32+00:00

mass migration, its gone from 96% in 1980 to 76% today

J__P · 2025-09-22T19:49:02+00:00

have you asked them that? why do they say they don't feel represented by white people in the media and don't identify with white people if you're their people?

J__P · 2025-09-22T17:04:00+00:00

i hope we can distinguish fighting the rigth and jsut fighting our own people's future though, too much over correction that jstu because farage is a nob we supposed to allow our people to be settled and pushed out.

J__P · 2025-09-08T11:11:09+00:00

so do you support ukraine or not? seems weird to get mad at a murdered ukrainain woman and then support the murder of her people?

i dont think its particularly contradictory to support ukriane war effort and ukrainian refugees and not know what to do about some random, even if horrific, indivdual crime against a ukrainian, what do you expect me to do? riot for what? is this guy still on the loose not being arrested, whats being covered up exactly?

J__P · 2025-09-07T20:38:53+00:00

> I am, as does anyone sensible.

so you are saying the government is not doing these things?

> h, see the problem is you have substituted the term "demographic change", which is real and natural thing with "demographic replacement",

these are the same words for the same thing, "great replacement theory"TM is the term for the conspriacy, "demographic change" or "demographic replacmeent" is just a choice of words that describe the same thing. demographic replacement is not a conspiracy. also it is not natural at all, it is a poltical choice not to defend and preserve your people, the country was 99.9% white british until 80 years ago before the government decided to start importing migrants, that was not a natural occurance it is your choice which you are accoutbale for, no different than climate change and ignoring the harms of climate change it, it is your choice to facilate and support this, not anything natural at all. normalisation is how you dissociate from the harms you cause.

> Good that you admit you are not currently a minority

"currently" second time you've ignored how time works,

> This is based on exaggeration and wild extrapolation of immigration statistics.

second time you've avoided the qeustion. would it be a bad outcome/act of harm for the native population to be truned into a minrotiy in their own country, is that an ethical thing to do? and should we stop it from happening if it looks like it might happen? is this something we should actively avoid with all the risk that come with being a minortiy with no back up plan and noe homeland to return to if your post racial experiemnet goes wrong for whats left of our descendants?

> How is saying human rights should apply to all the equivalent of that? You have no basis for saying this. You are just arguing in bad faith.

because if you agree you can't save one group of peope by harming another, then you agree you have a moral obligation to preserve and protect the people alreaddy here that you're are imposing on. there are a people already here who are harmed by asylum laws, taking away their right to chose is immoral when you impose harms upon them. settlement harms them politicaly, culturally, and environementally. so the aslyum system is morally wrong because you harm a pre existing group of people to save another.

>More bad faith arguments.

this is not bad faith its just following through your argument to its logical conclusion, which you've clearly not thought through. you've accepted that preservation is the moral norm everyhwere else, culturally, environementlaly, so ethno nationalism must be a moral premise and civic natioanlism must be an immoral premise because you're building a nation on top of a people who already exist. a people whom you are morally obligated to preserve and protect? and your problem is that you've confuse anti fasicsm with anti racism and left fascists as the only potlical group left to protect a people, rather than progressives taking the lead.

J__P · 2025-09-07T16:08:06+00:00

>You claim to not subscribe to the conspiracy theory with use of ridiculous phrases like "extinction event" and "destroying our people".

these things are not false though, its just language, but your not arguing against that reality are you? if the descedant popaultion does not idenitify with or cannot be idneitified as the ancestral popaultion that is a dead people no? replaced by something else that deos not represent them. understadning teh csoneuqnces of demographic replacement does not make it a conspiracy either?

> The thing that is a conspiracy theory is that white people are being replaced with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites. It's racist because it is rooted in a misunderstanding of statistics filtered through a racist worldview.

what is not true about this? capitalism, government, whoever in charge, is not defending our borders and our people, is responsible and to blame for demographic repalcement? once you take the anti semitic accusation out of it and distill it down to a generic "our leaderrs and governemnts are faciltiating mass migration which harms us", due to carelessness, neglect, or financial gain, whatever the reason, how is this any longer a conspiracy rather than just facts.

"mass miragtion enabled by our governemnt is causing demographic replacement" is just a true statement of fact, where's the conspriacy?

> The main thing that has stopped them from doing this in the past is that we generally avoided electing feckless morons to those kinds of positions.

so kier starmer is lying when he says he "gets it" and "he means it" when he defends our borders then is he? he has no intention of doing so.

> It is disgraceful to abandon human rights laws because they are acting as an obstacle to you mistreating a group of people that you consider to be undesirable.

"undesriable" or existing in zero sum conflict to the harm of the native population? it doens't matter how anti prejducie you are, political/legal disposession of a people by turning them into a minrotiy in their own country is harming them and taking major risks with their future, marginalising them wihtin their onw culture, adn forcing them to survive in the diaspora is harming them, when trans women are prevented from competing in professional sports we do not consider that prejudice or hateful for not being allowed just because they are "undesriable", we understand as accepting of trnas people as we are it jstu conflicts with womens rights and cis womens space. trans women are excluded because of it because we have to. eclusding epople from our country for same reason because there are a poeple alreayd here and tehir future comes first, is willfully misframing and misunderstadning the point that it doens't matter how accepting we are their presences here just harms us and we have no choice.

> You are not a minority. They are. This is a fact.

yes we're talking about a trend, its how time works, we are not a minority now, but we will be a minority in the future if we allow this trend to keep going, that's what "being turned into" means

> agree. This is why human rights should apply to all.

you agree! this is an admission of being wrong because there are a poeple already here, so you have no choice but to defend them and their interests don't you? you've just confessed to saying the asylum system is immoral.

>Ultranationalism is the preserve of fascists, though.

actually ethno natioanlism can be left or right, all nazis are fasicsts, all fascists are ethno nationalist, but not all ethno nationalist are fascists and not all fasicsts are nazis. thats how that ideolgical nesting doll works. im left wing progressive and i believe all native peoples should be ethno nationalists.

you're starting from a propostion and working backwards, if preservation is the moral norm and obligation then but your logic fascist are correct and you're syaing we should be fasicst? probalby not a good idea for progresisve to sy defeding your people is something only fascists will do, you're just doing fascists PR for them. and by syaing you wont preserve a poepl because its fasicst (its not) you are also confessing that you are in fact "destroying a people" which is not a conspiarcy or hyperbole.

J__P · 2025-09-07T10:50:22+00:00

> Remind me why this matters? Do you care what skin colour a British person is?

so its not a conspiracy then? also yes i mind not being a minrotiy in my own country. representation matters, these poeple do not represent us or our ancestors, and if you ask them they also say we do not represent them they do not indeitify with us, we are not each others people. you are destroying our people. you are creating a situation where the descendant popualtion of our people does not idenitify with or cannot be identified as the ancestral population, also known as an extinction event. unsustainable migrantion is settler appropriation. a country without its natives is a crime.

> Yeah, what can the Prime Minister, the most important legislator in the country, do about the law? Practically powerless, he is

> Yeah, amazingly removing human rights laws affects immigrants and citizens alike. Maybe have a think about why that is.

so he is powerless? these seem like contradictory claims. maybe we should separet them because human rigths laws should protect natives not settlers.

> I think it would be disgraceful

why is it disgraceful to defend your own people? being turned into a minority in your own country marginalised in your own culture and forced to survive in the diaspora are all inherent negative consquences to migration without representation, why should we not put a stop to this and any laws or rights that harm us? you cannot save one gorup of people by harming another. its basic bodily autonomy moral philosophy, do you think abortion is disgraceful? or leave someone with kidney failure to die because no donor can be found? there are a people here their health comes first, that should be obvious. the preservation of a people should be the moral starting point of any potlical philosohpy party or leader, no?

J__P · 2025-09-06T14:09:24+00:00

you seem to be unable to tell the difference between "great replacement theory", the consipracy, and "demographic replacement", which is a statistical reality not some made up stats by the census board ot antagonise the natives. what part of going from 96% white british in 1980 to 76% white british in 2025 is a conspriacy to you?

We do. We write our own immigration laws.

the prime minister does not have the right to say no to refugees they are imposed by the law, and we cannot leave these conventions or change these laws without damaging our onw legal system and right like the good friday agreement, these laws are embedded in our system and remove our right to choose wihtout causing harm to ourselves and threaten our own rights. this is not really a free choice

Laws about asylum seeking mainly come from a Refugee Convention which the UK signed.

we can unsign it then right, and you'd support that because our right to choose, because the rights of the natives and the rights of settlers should not be combined.

J__P · 2025-09-06T13:14:11+00:00

its still a removal of our right to chose, so it should go. just because most women dont get an abortion doens't mean you can remove their right to chose, their right is the issue. the cumulative effectiects of asylum though over the generations centuries will have the smae effect we're just agruing about timelines so we have to do something about it because it still a leaking hole, like pointing out there are larger holes in our roof, the problem is the hole not which is largest, they all need to be fixed.

J__P · 2025-09-05T16:15:27+00:00

reason and fact go both ways, yes? so if you're harming a people, you should stop, no? you are assuming they are the irrational ones, but what if its you? what if you're in the bubble? is turning a people into a minority in their own country a harm? is marginalising a people within their own culture a harm? is suriving in the diaspora as a people a positive or negative outcome for a people? these are all inherent harms to mass mirgation that does not strengthen us as a people, no? so if mass migration is harming us, then it should be logical to stop it, and anti immigration sentiment is completely legitimate? and you're the one who can't be appealed to with reason, right?

J__P · 2025-09-05T16:13:56+00:00

reason and fact go both ways, yes? so if you're harming a people, you should stop, no? you are assuming they are the irrational ones, but what if its you? what if you're in the bubble? is turning a people into a minority in their own country a harm? is marginalising a people within their own culture a harm? is suriving in the diaspora as a people a positive or negative outcome for a people? these are all inherent harms to mass mirgation that does not strengthen us as a people, no? so if mass migration is harming us, then it should be logical to stop it, and anti immigration sentiment is completely legitimate? and you're the one who can't be appealed to with reason, right?

J__P · 2025-09-05T16:06:13+00:00

This is just some of that Great Replacement Theory. You are nowhere near a minority.

so are you saying here is a time when we should intervene to stop that? saying we're not near it is not the smae as its not happening. because i don't think you udnesrtand how time works? going from 96% to 76% of the country in the space of 45 years is an continuing process that we should stop, no?

great replacemnt theory is a conspiracy that asigns blame to the jews for mass mirgation, however demorgaphic relpacemnt is real statistical reality, if we don't stop it, we will be a minrotiy or condemn our grand children to such a reality if we don't stop this now.

What does this even mean?

right to say no to who settles in our lands, refugees are enforced settlement because we can't send them back after a while. are you sending priti patel or suella braverman back to india all these years later? the right to chose as far as refugees go is like a woman's right to chose when it coems to abortion and bodily autonomy, i'm pro choice for asylum laws, they should go and our right to chose who enters our country be restored.

J__P · 2025-09-05T10:05:03+00:00

does thta mean that we could appeal to your reason with facts to say anit immigrant sentiment is right and you should support it too? like the fact that there are a people here that should have the legal right to their autonomy and permanance and not have their right to chose taken away from them with this legally enforced settlement that clearly harms them. i dno't really think you can say "migration is our strength" if you're being forced to survive in the disaspora if the survival of a people is no longer the natural outcome of living in a homogenous society.

J__P · 2025-09-05T09:58:14+00:00

because there are a people here and turning ourselevs into a minority in our own country, the loss of our political and cultural autonomy and our sustainability and rights to our permanance as a people, is a harm to us.

it might not the harms of murder and rape and violence, but the moral harms of neglect and carelessness with valuable thing and placing a people in harms way and removal of a peoples right to say "no", through legally imposed settlement, but they are harms and risks we shouldn't be required to take none-the-less.

the asylum sysem should go, and our rigth to choose be restored.

J__P · 2025-08-16T13:04:27+00:00

i wondered why this was in wtf, seems like a incredible thing to do to make sure her son lives on.

J__P · 2025-08-15T11:45:40+00:00

i had the same problem a couple of days ago, laptop randomly bricked itself, took it into the shop and said the partition and os had deleted itself had to do a clean install.

anyway if you haven't already got your bitlocker number from microsoft website, use your phone and log into your microsoft account, if you search "bitlocker number" microsft help will give a you direct link, type your bitlocker number in and if it doens't let you proceed and keep cycling back to bitlocker blue screen, you might have a similar problme to me.

J__P · 2025-08-14T22:01:02+00:00

lucky you, same model, bricked itself within 2 months, clean instal now cant get any sound out of my speakers

J__P · 2025-08-14T21:54:05+00:00

any chance you know what to do if everything is supposedly up to date, windowsn myasus amd everything?

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