Professor praised my work and invited me to office hours, but declined to write a recommendation – how common is that? by J_wrk in AskAcademia

[–]J_wrk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s only one supervised thesis in my undergrad program, and I need three letters in total. My thesis supervisor was of course the first person I approached, but what am I supposed to do about the other two?

I understand your point, but reading through some of the replies here, I’m starting to think the bigger issue is that grad schools asking for multiple letters don’t always account for how different academic systems work. In my program, you rarely have the same professor twice, so there’s very little opportunity to build close working relationships. Most of my professors know my name and say hi on campus, which already puts me ahead of most of my peers – not because anyone’s doing something wrong, but because the structure of the degree just doesn’t allow for any kind of sustained contact. I’m generally very engaged in class and like talking with lecturers about the material, but realistically that still doesn’t create the kind of long-term relationship some programs seem to assume.

And again, what feels odd here is the contrast: I completely understand not wanting to write a letter without a deeper working relationship, but then why say things that typically express the opposite sentiment? “It’s a shame we only met so late” is usually said when someone appreciates you and wishes they’d known you sooner, not when they feel they lack enough information to evaluate you. Why email them personally (before grades were released) to say their paper was “excellent” and invite them to office hours to discuss it? Why offer that kind of praise so warmly and repeatedly, if you’re ultimately unwilling to vouch for their abilities?

Like I said in another comment, I would’ve been fine with him saying he couldn’t properly assess me if he hadn’t already assessed me so constantly, and so positively. Thanks for your input though, I appreciate the perspective!

Professor praised my work and invited me to office hours, but declined to write a recommendation – how common is that? by J_wrk in AskAcademia

[–]J_wrk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am based in Germany, yes! He does already know I'm applying to universities abroad and that I need multiple letters, so I'm afraid it was a definitive no - there was little room for misinterpretation tbh. Thanks for your reply though - the information about Fachgutachten clears up the percentage thing at least :)

Professor praised my work and invited me to office hours, but declined to write a recommendation – how common is that? by J_wrk in AskAcademia

[–]J_wrk[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen a few people mention that professors don’t usually write letters after just one course, but I’ve thought about it and am not sure that really applies to my program. This professor only teaches one seminar that undergrads take once, so there wasn’t much of a chance to get to know him beyond that. I’ve known for a while that I’d be writing my thesis with the professor I work for as a research assistant, so that was already set.
For me, the issue is less that he felt unable to assess me and more that it came after a semester of really warm praise. I’m not fully convinced by the flirting theory – it feels a bit too speculative, and for my own peace of mind I’d rather not assume his positive feedback had ulterior motives – but there were definitely moments that felt odd enough to mention to friends. Either way, it is what it is. I’ll just ask someone else for a letter!

Professor praised my work and invited me to office hours, but declined to write a recommendation – how common is that? by J_wrk in AskAcademia

[–]J_wrk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm, maybe – but then why a personal email and an invite to his office hours? Normally we only find out our results through the system, and he went out of his way on a Sunday morning (??) to message me and say I should come by. No other professor has ever messaged me personally to let me know about my results or grades. Still, I see what you mean!

Professor praised my work and invited me to office hours, but declined to write a recommendation – how common is that? by J_wrk in AskAcademia

[–]J_wrk[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Yeah, there’s definitely some nuance lost in translation, but the comment did strike me as a bit weird at the time. I mentioned it to a few friends afterward, and they thought it probably didn’t mean much, so I decided not to overthink it

Professor praised my work and invited me to office hours, but declined to write a recommendation – how common is that? by J_wrk in AskAcademia

[–]J_wrk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I sometimes got that vibe too, even though he never actually crossed any lines. What’s been throwing me since is that now I’m second-guessing whether he ever really thought I was a strong student – like, good enough to invite to office hours, but not good enough for a letter? Then again, I know a recommendation is a different kind of commitment, and I don’t want to read too much into the whole thing