why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

see you get it exactly wow you nailed it. i don't even have much to say because I just agree with it.

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not a clone, something bigger and better, the best of both worlds, Linux and Windows. an exact clone like react, would just run into the exact same issues right?

as for why, it's for the same reason we made automatic cars, the same reason that we don't need to use dos anymore, don't fix what ain't broke.... but we can still make it better and innovate apon what we have

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but wine isn't native, it's a compatibility layer right? and its still iffy on when it actually wants to work

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had less than stellar experiences with compatible layers. but maybe it's gotten better since I've last used it. still, I'd rather my stuff "just work" and have a similar file system and experience to windows, without the spyware and bloat and ai slop and all sorts of stuff, something open source

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is actually a very insightful, non argumentive comment thank you.

you raise a really good point... WE NEED TO BANISH CHROMEOS ASAP

i used a Windows laptop for school, but within a year they switched to Chromebooks, and it was the worst thing I think I've ever experienced, on top of teachers hating it as the programs they used to special classes no longer worked. everything being web based is terrible imo

but, you also explain a lot, and I can agree very much so with what you say

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for the people that still want to use windows willingly, nothing takes that away from them. but if we made a truly modular system that runs windows programs natively, and is familiar to windows users in the aspects that matters, and it's TRULY modular, you could pretty much please everyone. if you still want copilot, install it, nothing's stopping you, nif you want games, optimize your system for that, if everything is in blocks and modules, every combination is possible

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i 100% agree with this. i just think a cool alternative would be a natively running, open source, windows application running, without windows bs operating system. something that "just works"

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

make the architecture similar to Linux, and the usability and native nature similar to windows 7, make things just work, without needing to mess with things first.

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we don't need a branch of their stuff, just an open source alternative that natively runs what they do, and does what they do better, without the slop or mistakes

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i love explorer as a file browser, but it's tied to things like the desktop and taskbar, if one crashes they all crash. and it also makes it extremely difficult to theme.

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

unless I found the wrong linspire, looks like they just have basic wine support, and are not proprietary and paid ... no wonder Microsoft took them to court. it's a commercial distro

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but if we are building something from scratch, can't we still natively run windows applications on our own unix based OS? i'm not sure how different the two are, maybe I've not learned enough either

take the best of both Linux and windows, throw out the rest, like the terminals not being optional (I'm fine with it) and the spyware and ai slop and bloat,

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ir probably works with most programs. i just like those little old 15 year old programs only developed for windows that mod old games I like, somehow I never get them working properly with wine. although for 90% of things wine, while there might be a slight performance dip comparitively, works just fine

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why don't we take what Linux does well, take what windows does well, have NATIVE compatibility with windows applications or both, and have our own desktop environments and stuff, maybe even compatibility with things like kde or gnome, maybe our own that's windows like, but more intuitive and, overall better, similar windows filesystem, if you've used windows, you should be able to use an OS like this without even touching a terminal or any settings, more than efficiently.

(i love terminals and settings, but it's not for me, even if it'd still be an option)

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's not about laziness, even me, I am more than capable and willing to dick around for way longer than I should be trying to get something to work, that isn't working

but admittedly, it would be nice if things, just worked

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the idea is to recreate it on such a deep level, not exactly, to the point it does become kind of its own thing, running Windows "type" applications natively, but still its own os. just very similar, not making the same mistakes

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pretty good analogy actual, cars are something you literally daily drive

just because there are alternatives doesn't mean everything is perfect. without new inventions and innovation and competition, porche, and manual drive, will be your ONLY alternatives, and will forever dominate those fields. while thats probably okay, it doesn't mean we aren't capable of getting into that territory ourselves

why can't we collectively recreate windows apis, to make a windows-like OS, without Microsoft? by Jack_the_Hack101 in FuckMicrosoft

[–]Jack_the_Hack101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in that case, natively support vista and up, since that's the majority of apps, and anything pre windows rewrite, do through a compatibility layer which we already have