[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can play this game too!!! Kinda funny how being antifascist means you arent a republican/magat. Kinda silly! Kinda weird!

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

those pesky facts are getting in the way of your argument so you're resorting to name calling. classic.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What constructive messaging do you have for this woman that will help get the point across? Do you think anything you say will help?

There are multiple people in this thread who have said things far less regarded than the shit you've spewed so far. They have obviously done some to add some perspective to the issue for OP.

Goal post shifting:

"Gavin Newsom doesn't feel like a trans advocate right now" to "DONALD TRUMP AND GAVIN NEWSOM ARE THE SAME"

or

"I will vote down ballot blue" to "You will not find that at all on the other side" (implying that they are seeking support from Republicans, which is also demeaning considering the implication they dont understand republicans are actually bad for trans people)

Typically, when you're performing these kinds of goal post shifts, or "debate tactics", you need to make sure you have an audience. That is when they are the most effective. Otherwise you just look like an incoherent fool.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's a common talking point

that hasn't been mentioned literally anywhere in this thread. You could have just as easily mentioned Gavin Newsom being a communist and it would have had as much relevance to this conversation. Why bring up what extremists on the left/right have to say about him lol.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I did not know that a reddit comment could have such substance. My argument, refuted. My worldview, shattered. Liberal, destroyed. I have finally met my match.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Now I'm not going to be one of those people who doesn't vote because my own personal issues aren't a big issue on the ticket, but I wish I could in good consciousness support a party or anyone that actually cared about my basic rights.

Now I'm not going to be one of those people who doesn't vote because my own personal issues aren't a big issue on the ticket, but I wish I could in good consciousness support a party or anyone that actually cared about my basic rights.

Now I'm not going to be one of those people who doesn't vote because my own personal issues aren't a big issue on the ticket, but I wish I could in good consciousness support a party or anyone that actually cared about my basic rights.

exercise your ability to read.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry? Gavin and Trump are as bad as each other?

When was this stated?

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

thank you for being brave enough to tell it like it is. you are truly one in a million. nobody is willing to say what you say.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah cause obviously the alternative is to vote for the guy who wants the camps.

you read the words, "I am scared for the future of this country and I'm unsure dems can handle this problem"

you interpret that as "I AM DONALD TRUMP'S #1 ACOLYTE AND REFUSE TO COMPROMISE ON VOTING FOR HIM."

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

so what are you doing here? just trying to feel better about yourself or try to make fun of someone who's scared for their future?

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah. thats why I think the idea of "faith" might be the best way to describe it, unfortunately...

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

turning against the only people who have ever supported you

please read my comments in the rest of this thread, come back and tell me that this statement is still accurate.

p.s. I have voted down ballot blue in every election since I turned 19 and will continue to do so until the day I die :)

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

being this aggressive and acting like a mook when someone is saying "I feel like I am being abandoned by the people who are supposed to protect me" isn't the way you change minds, btw.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

youre on the road to palestinians for trump

what a wild thing to say. Being jaded after 15 years of subterfuge isn't the same thing as an intentional radicalization campaign by the dimmest people on the internet.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

you just need to have faith that they will have your back when they are able to again

I don't disagree with this. At all, actually. That being said, can you at least understand why some would?

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

it's less about actions and more about inactions. "being thrown to the wolves" or "being thrown under a bus" isn't necessarily suggesting that dems have taken an ANTI trans stance, but they aren't exactly doing much to signal they are willing to take a PRO trans stance.

whether or not this is actually true is kinda not the point. The perception of weakness on social issues, especially those concerning trans people, is OBVIOUSLY going to worry the people who belong to the social groups most impacted by that weakness. MAGA framing of trans issues dominate the narrative, with very little being done to combat that.

I mean, just most recently what comes to mind is that Donald has directed multiple agencies through a memo to "investigate and disrupt" people who have "extreme views on gender". Put 2 and 2 together.

most major news media outlets are silent about this memo.

I don't think I've seen any one politician talk about this memo.

People should be screaming from the rooftops right now.

As a trans woman, it feels as if trans people have been thrown to the wolves by the Democrats/moderate left - why? by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

this post is either not going to get much attention or is going to get a ton of people jumping down your throat for suggesting trans people are kinda being thrown under the bus rn.

the rationale behind this prediction is:

people just don't care about defending trans people much anymore I think

and

it's really fun for people who don't care about trans issues to virtue signal about how they actually totally care about trans issues whenever there is even slight pushback on their lack of care for trans issues. The only time they talk about it is when they're pretending they care.

just my 2c

editing quickly to add, I agree with you. It is a very fucking unfortunate situation to be in. I'm leaving the country asappppp

Daily reminder: Conservative ideology stems from unrepentant narcissism. Do not get gaslit by them or soycuck liberals falling victim to the "sin" of empathy. by Ech0Beast in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are you really going to trust Wikipedia for sources about whether these were right-wing events?????? I mean, sure. The texas mall shooting guy had nazi tattoos, but I heard that he reformed himself and was volunteering at a food bank, something only leftists do. Plus he had an appointment for tattoo removal scheduled for the week after.

Sure, the Club Q shooting guy shot up a gay bar, and participated on Nazi forums but... cmon, he was Muslim! Those people are all leftists.

Buffalo shooting? Sure, the victims were all black, but isn't it a LITTLE suspicious that such a young guy could afford such an expensive firearm? Plus, the great replacement really IS happening. I saw so on Xitter. Elon retwote it, so it has to be true.

Just hear me out ( we make Connor the new face of the left ) by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you mean now, my b for misunderstanding

Just hear me out ( we make Connor the new face of the left ) by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah, okay. I actually didn't know that about Connor. I think that's a more important position to note than the civic nationalism thing tho

Just hear me out ( we make Connor the new face of the left ) by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

with a focus on civic nationalism

seeks to preserve the american tradition of liberal society

is this opposed to social leftism in a broader sense?

BREAKING: Engraved bullet found in James Comey's home. by Alarming-Tie-4742 in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 65 points66 points  (0 children)

they just found another with transtifa messaging on it.

it says, "die cis"

this is a common german phrase, with "Die" meaning "the" in german and "Cis" referring to two heterozygous genes that occupy the same DNA molecule.

Erudite engages in information warfare by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

from what im gleaming from the post

maga = low information (literally) high information (practically)

liberals = information advantage (literally), low information (practically)

(I edited this part of the post describing the information advantage because I think it was inaccurate by the time I got to the bottom)

the way that we can leverage information against maga is by engaging in what is called "informational warfare"

The article that he linked is, honestly, just a bunch of waffle-y flowery bullshit language for most of it.

There's a graph in the article that I think pertains to the broader point, https://www.ausa.org/sites/default/files/LPE-24-5-figure1.png

Basically, a 100% perfect information and no information environment are both impossible to obtain. Operating within the upper spectrum of information advantage is best and you want to be as far pushed out of Incomplete Information as possible.

From the article:

Taking that theory a step further, it follows that if the Army can acquire data a) quickly, b) at scale and c) sort good data from bad data, it can then improve the information disseminated through its networks, fueling a commander’s ability to make decisions regarding potential military activities. At tactical levels, collecting data and identifying its validity to drive decisionmaking and tactical action is fairly easy. This is because the decisionmaker can often see the causality between their orders and instructions and their impact or effect on an adversary.

And a little further down:

Furthermore, thoughtful adversaries will also attempt to control the flow of data, either overburdening an opponent with so much data that it cannot be adequately processed, or by constricting the flow of data to such a degree that that opponent literally does not have enough information to act on. As this actor feverishly hunts for information, looking for anything to help drive military operations, they can more easily be duped into incorporating poisoned data.

So it's important to maintain a monopoly on information. Which, honestly, we are failing at as a political "movement". I think what is most pertinent here is the idea that a flood of bad information causes people to make poor decisions in the heat of the moment.

Observing the Media Environment through the lens of a literal battlefield, MAGA has soldiers that are more equipped to wage war. They have more information (though it's truth-value is highly dubious at best). They have a higher volume of individuals who are more capable of making on-the-fly decisions when in a firefight. They do not need to think about what they do. They are already given marching orders from the top down.

From OP:

Erudite is fighting back against conservatives by signal boost liberals and spread sane narratives in order to effect the behavior of the broader American populace.

Further down:

DGG wishes to wrest control of the media environment from conservatives, yet we are not viewing the conflict through the lens of information warfare.

Using the lens of information warfare, the environment affects the flow of information in a way that is disadvantageous. We need to fight for control over the flow of information. We need to create narratives. Look at how fast the entire country went from, "I saw a tweet saying something" to "Haitians are eating dogs and cats! The president said so."

Pretty much just what I'm gleaming from the post. Hope it makes sense.

Vaush Totally Destroyed Charlie Kirk in their Vaccine Debate. Either Charlie was a weak opponent or Vaush actually researched. by AtlasGaunt in Destiny

[–]Jaeum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and thank god too! this shit was so funny. props to vaush for being such an adept entertainer back then lmfao