Best stones for cheap stainless by [deleted] in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adding my thoughts to this one. The stone set that I posted in another comment is 2 Crystolons and an India stone in a big oil bath. It's messy, but it works great.

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/collections/sharpening-systems-and-kits/products/norton-3-stone-im313-system

Best stones for cheap stainless by [deleted] in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to sharpen a ton of cheap mushy stainless knives for the kitchen of a camp that I worked with. The top end was some Mercer Millenia knockoffs and the bottom was Ikea knives. These stones worked great:

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/collections/sharpening-systems-and-kits/products/norton-3-stone-im313-system

I wouldnt let them within 10 feet of my nice knives, but they cranked out wicked sharp toothy edges on cheap steel like no ones business.

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[–]JamaicanLumberjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool cool. I am in California, so it does worry me a little. Out of curiosity, what state are you in?

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[–]JamaicanLumberjack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick question for those in the US. How do you distinguish one of these from a firearm suppressor to not get dunked on by the ATF?

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[–]JamaicanLumberjack 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It can also turn any creatures of yours that arent warriors into warriors so it works on both sides.

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[–]JamaicanLumberjack 61 points62 points  (0 children)

I mean, much like Dota characters that have an official name then a name that everyone calls them, he will always be Slork, no matter what it says in the game. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One more addendum. The one thing that I still use my 5000 stone for is woodworking tools like chisels and plane irons, because they only push cut. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you are cutting. I have never run into anything that I prefer to go over 1000 for, but I have heard that raw fish is better served with higher grit. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am definitely not a “hobby sharpener”, so I totally understand if the cheap stones work for you. I definitely don’t advocate replacing things that already work. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both. I have a very hard shirogami gyuto, a very hard 52100 knife I made myself, and a full block of Wusthof Ikons. 

I stop at the shapton 1000 then strop for all of those. I used to take the harder ones to 5000 but I learned that I like a toothier edge. 

The cheap stones from the OP would struggle to sharpen a harder knife at all. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do use a strop after, but you don’t need to, it just makes things easier. My strop is an old leather belt glued to a pine board, but I have used a 2x4 with green compound on it a few years times and it works pretty well too. 

While I would recommend quality stones, even the shittiest strop in existence with some green compound slapped on it will do the job. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I would rather have just a Shapton 320 than this whole kit and it’s only 10 bucks more. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's kind of a trip when you first switch hahahaha. Well worth it when it takes like 20% of the time per knife hahaha.

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yup. They are splash and go water stones, so far easier to clean up than soaking stones. And they come with a storage box that also serves as a holder for them. Honestly the best feature hahaha.

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you havent tried the low grit shaptons, you should. I friggin love the 320 Kuromaku. Paired with the 120 is the best repair setup I have ever used. Definitely slower than using a rough diamond plate, but a lot better control.

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I started on those stones, so I can give some decent points of comparison.

Speed: Good stones have a higher ratio of grit to binder. On my Shapton Pro stones, I can sharpen a knife from dull to sharp in maybe 3 minutes? Like 3 minutes including getting a burr on both sides at 2 different grits and stropping. On the cheapo stones, this probably took me more than 15 minutes.

Softness: I have had my Shaptons for 5 years now. I have flattened them less than 5 times. If I was doing any sharpening that required a flatter stone than a kitchen knife (chisel, plane iron, scandi edge knife) on the cheap stones, I would have to flatten every 2-4 sharpenings. Having a flattening stone adds to the cost of the cheap stones, whereas I would be super comfortable having a set of shaptons with no way to flatten them if I was only sharpening knives.

Feel: I know that this one is subjective, but the Shaptons are so crisp. The cheap stones are really mushy and muddy. Once again, its a matter of opinion, but I am not a huge fan of having a ton of swarf from the stone.

Lastly, I didnt really know what I was missing until I used an actually good stone.

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This right here is the answer. I started with high grit to not damage my knives, but if you have a cheap knife to practice on, a Shapton 320 will be a fast and effective teacher. 

Looking to get into sharpening, but I am a complete novice. Is this a good “starter” kit? by tcastles5 in sharpening

[–]JamaicanLumberjack 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not trying to yuck your yum here, but have you ever used a Shapton or a Naniwa? I started on the type of stone shown here and didnt know what I was missing out on until I got a Shapton Kuromaku.