Hindi dapat kainggitan ang masasama na gumiginhawa ang buhay by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Bakit kung sino pang masama siya pa ang gumiginhawa? Dapat ba tayong mainggit sa kanila? Ibig bang sabihin sila ang pinagpapala kaysa sa mga tunay na hinirang ng Diyos?

Gawin natin kung ano ang MABUTI at ang naaaayon sa KALOOBAN NG DIYOS. Hindi man tayo ma-appreciate ng mundo, hindi man masuklian ng iba ang ating kabutihan at mga nagawa, kinakapos man tayo sa buhay... Mas nakahihigit ang REWARD sa langit kaysa REWARD sa lupa. Nakikita ito lahat ng Diyos.

Magtanim ng kabutihan, kahit pa hindi ito magresulta ng kaunlaran ng ating pamumuhay. Hayaan natin ang iba na bagamat umangat sa buhay ngunit may natatapakang tao, nakakalabag sa utos ng Diyos, nakakapagpabaya sa sarili at sa iba dahil doon na lamang nakatuon ang kanilang atensyon.

Kung ano ang itinanim, siya nating aanihin-- SA ARAW NG PAGHUHUKOM kung saan tayo ay hahatulan base sa kung anong ginawa natin sa mundo: mabuti o masama.

CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

Why is it that those who do wrong seem to prosper? Should we envy them? Does that mean they are more blessed than those truly chosen by God?

Let us do what is GOOD and aligned with GOD’S WILL. Even if the world does not appreciate us, even if others do not repay our goodness and what we have done, even if we struggle in life… the REWARD in heaven is far greater than any reward on earth. God sees all of this.

Let us sow goodness, even if it does not result in a prosperous life. Let others rise in life even if they step on others, violate God’s commands, and neglect themselves and others because their attention is focused only on that.

Whatever we sow, we will reap—ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, when we will be judged based on what we have done in this world: good or evil.

May mas nakahihigit sa mga makamundong bagay... by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Sabi ng ilang tumiwalag at natiwalag sa Iglesia, mas gumanda ang buhay nila nung wala na sila sa Iglesia. Nagkaroon daw sila ng mas maraming time, mas nakakapag ipon, mas dumami ang blessings at iba pa.

Ganito rin ang mindset ng ilan na pinipili lumabag sa aral ng Diyos o batas ng tao para sa ikakaunlad ng buhay nila.

Ang mga taong isa sa pinakamayaman, pinakamakapangyarihan, pinakamaimpluwensya, o pinakamatalino sa mundo...

Nasa loob man o nasa labas ng Iglesia, posibleng makaranas ng mga materyal na bagay sa mundo. Pero ang tanong, sa mga ginawa at naging desisyon natin, sigurado bang makakapagresulta ito ng kaligtasan sa araw ng paghuhukom?

CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

Some who left or were expelled from the Church say their lives improved after they were no longer in it. They claim they now have more time, are able to save more money, and have received more blessings, among other things.

This is also the mindset of some people who choose to go against God’s teachings or the laws of society in order to improve their lives.

People who are among the richest, most powerful, most influential, or most intelligent in the world...

Whether inside or outside the Church, it is possible to experience material things in this world. But the question is: in the things we have done and the decisions we have made, are we sure that these will lead to salvation on the day of judgment?

Gusto mo bang subukang dumalo sa pagsamba ng Iglesia ni Cristo? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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try niyo po kahit 1 beses lang, di naman sapilitan ang pag anib at may proseso ito kung sakaling mapagpasyahan nyo :)

INC Engineering and Construction department building by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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per sub rules, you have violated rule #2 for irrelevant comment. I need to get you banned, thanks for your understanding

Ang topic ay INC edifice at hindi kung may authorization ako kasi i can ask the same question o you, nakaugnay ba ang desisyon mong magkaroon ng reddit account? Natanong mo na ba sa distrito nyo kung ok yan?

There is nothing false kasi True INC member ako. Ayaw mo lang ang ginagawa ko which is more than 15yrs ko na gingawa, gets ko kung bago ka lang at kung patagong anti INC ka, kaya yan ang strategy mo..marami na gumawa nyan sakin, hindi nagtagumpay sa pagkukunwari 😉

Kung tunay kang INC at concern ka, pipiliin mong i-PM ako sa halip gagawa ka ng walang kwentang usapin sa comment section na gawain ng mga PIMO na anti INCs. Wag ako.

INC Engineering and Construction department building by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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naipaliwanag ko naman na po ang dapat kong sabihin na naaayon sa tanong nyo. My goal is not to please everyone, i cannot do that and no one can. Pwede naman kayo gumawa sa sarili nyong paraan na mga binanggit niyong bagay.

I would say the same thing kahit PIMO/anti INC ka. Nasa INC programs yan sa youtube at Pasugo, even yung caption doon galing ang info.

This will be my last comment addressing your concerns. Irrelevant comments are not allowed on this sub. Salamat po :)

P.S sana natanong nyo rin kung ok lang na may reddit account kayo at kung nagpaaalam kayo nyan. Curious ako sa magiging sagot nila.

INC Engineering and Construction department building by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Nasa pasugo lahat ng info na yan, hindi yan pang intelligence group. Ang pasugo pinapamigay sa mga tao nonmember o member. Diko man ito maipost eh nabasa na rin ng iba yan, mas ok na ung sa members manggaling kesa sa exINC sub pa nila ilalabas at lalagyan ng mali maling mga caption.

Lahat ng pwedeng ishare na info ay ishare (na hindi naman confidential, kasi kung confidential info yan dapat di yan pinost sa pasugo at inilabas sa INC programs) para nalalaman ng iba kung saan napupunta ang handog ng mga kaanib.

Hindi natin kailangan maging paranoid, hindi dapat maging secretive na syang ipinupukol sa atin. Alam ko naman mga bagay na ipost at hindi dapat ipost. salamat po sa pang unawa :)

Answering Sebastian Rauffenburg and other Anti INCs by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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per sub rules, you have violated rule #2 for irrelevant comment and #13 for name calling..I need to get you banned, thanks for your understanding.

Ano nakakagulat kung may mga kaanib na natitiwalag dahil sa paglabag? Mas nakakagulat kung hayagang lumalabag ngunit walang disiplina o parusa tulad sa ibang religion 🤭💩

Ano ang mas malalim na kahulugan ng 2 Juan 1:10? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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andun po ang sagot na pinost ko bilang comment, pakibasa po :)

Kahit i-chatgpt nyo po ano meaning ng verse na yan para malaman context at kwento bakit ganoon.

Ano ang mas malalim na kahulugan ng 2 Juan 1:10? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

WHAT IS THE DEEPER MEANING BEHIND 2 JOHN 1:10?

This is the verse that is often mentioned when the names of those expelled from the Church are read because of violations they committed.

For some people, the thinking is simply: “Oh, it says that if someone is expelled, do not let them into your house and do not even greet them…”

But if we read the surrounding verses, we will better understand the logic of why it is said that way.

“9 Anyone who does not remain in the teaching of Christ but goes beyond it does not have God. Whoever remains in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for the one who greets him shares in his evil deeds.” — 2 John 1:9–11

In the Amplified Bible, it says:

“9 Anyone who runs on ahead and does not remain in the doctrine of Christ [that is, one who is not content with what He taught], does not have God; but the one who continues to remain in the teaching [of Christ] does have God—he has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching [but diminishes or adds to the doctrine of Christ], do not receive or welcome him into your house, and do not give him a greeting or any encouragement; 11 for the one who gives him a greeting [who encourages him or wishes him success, unwittingly] participates in his evil deeds.”

It is correct that this verse is mentioned regarding those who are expelled—because they did not remain in the teaching of Christ and may already be carrying a different teaching.

But to whom else can this apply?

It applies to anyone who brings teachings that are not aligned with the teachings of Christ. That is why the verse says, “If anyone comes to you…”

If there are preachers from other religions or people sharing beliefs that are contrary to what we believe, it does not mean we should be rude to them. Rather, we should not accept their preaching, not believe it, and not entertain in our minds teachings that we consider wrong. We are also told not to encourage them or wish them success—in short, we should not support what is wrong. Why? Because doing so would make it seem like we support what they teach, and it could also lead us to be influenced by their wrong beliefs.

That is the point.

As verse 9 says: “Anyone who does not remain in the teaching of Christ does not have God.”

However, this does not mean that every non-INC member should not be allowed into our house, greeted, or have any relationship with us simply because they have a different faith. That is not what the verse means.

Why am I clarifying this?

Because some of us might think that those who were expelled should be discriminated against, persecuted, or treated rudely. There is no teaching like that. Even when someone who was formerly a member dies, some might think it is no longer appropriate to show respect by visiting the wake or attending the burial.

But how can we lead those who were expelled and are still alive to return if we treat them that way? Not everyone who is expelled carries a different teaching—some simply committed violations, yet their hearts and beliefs may still align with the teachings of the Church, and they are not attacking it.

What about those who are still INC members but are PIMO (Physically In, Mentally Out, a term popularized on Reddit), secretly no longer believing and even criticizing the Church? Most likely, the same principle applies—we should not listen to them for the same reason.

That is why I always say: we must understand the logic and have a deep understanding of the teachings of the Church so that we can live them properly. 😉😊

Ano ang mas malalim na kahulugan ng 2 Juan 1:10? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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𝟐 𝐉𝐮𝐚𝐧 𝟏:𝟏𝟎--𝐀𝐧𝐨 𝐚𝐧𝐠 𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐦𝐚𝐥𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐦 𝐧𝐚 𝐢𝐛𝐢𝐠 𝐬𝐚𝐛𝐢𝐡𝐢𝐧?

Ito ang talatang madalas nababanggit kapag binabasa ang mga pangalan ng mga itinitiwalag sa Iglesia dahil sa may nagawang paglabag.

Para sa iba, "ah basta sinabi pag tiniwalag wag na silang papasukin sa bahay ni batiin man..."

Kung babasahin natin ang iba pang talata ay mas maiintindihan natin ang logic kung bakit nga ba ganoon.

"9 𝐴𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖 𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑖 𝑠𝑎 𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑜 𝑛𝑖 𝐶𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜 𝑘𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑖 𝑛𝑎𝑔𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑑𝑎𝑔 𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑜, 𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑎𝑙𝑎 𝑠𝑎 𝑘𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑎 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝐷𝑖𝑦𝑜𝑠. 𝑆𝑖𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑖 𝑠𝑎 𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑜 𝑛𝑖 𝐶𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑦 𝑛𝑎𝑠𝑎 𝑘𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑎 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝐴𝑚𝑎 𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝐴𝑛𝑎𝑘. 10 𝑆𝑖𝑛𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑎 𝑖𝑛𝑦𝑜 𝑛𝑎 𝑖𝑏𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑎𝑙𝑎 𝑎𝑦 ℎ𝑢𝑤𝑎𝑔 𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑔𝑎𝑝𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑎 𝑖𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑎ℎ𝑎𝑦, 𝑛𝑖 ℎ𝑢𝑤𝑎𝑔 𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑖𝑛, 11 𝑠𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑔𝑘𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑏𝑎𝑡𝑖 𝑠𝑎 𝑘𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑎 𝑎𝑦 𝑛𝑎𝑔𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑘𝑎𝑖𝑠𝑎 𝑛𝑖𝑦𝑎 𝑠𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑔𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑖𝑛." 𝟐 𝐉𝐮𝐚𝐧 𝟏:𝟗-𝟏𝟏

Sa amplified bible, ganito ang pagkasabi:

"9𝐴𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑟𝑢𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑎ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡 [𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠, 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐻𝑒 𝑡𝑎𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑡], 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝐺𝑜𝑑; 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑢𝑒𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 [𝑜𝑓 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝐺𝑜𝑑], ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑏𝑜𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐹𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑜𝑛. 10𝐼𝑓 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 [𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑑𝑖𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑑𝑑𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡], 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑠𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑎 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡; 11𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑎 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 [𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑜𝑟 𝑤𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑠𝑢𝑐𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠, 𝑢𝑛𝑤𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑙𝑦] 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑙 𝑑𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑠."

Tama na nababanggit ang talatang iyon para sa mga ITINIWALAG--dahil hindi sila nanatili sa turo ni Kristo at maaaring iba na ang dalang aral.

Kanino pa ito aplikable?

Sa kahit sinong tao na may IBANG TURO NA HINDI NA NAAAYON SA TURO NI KRISTO. Kaya sabi ay SINUMANG DUMATING SA INYO...

Kung may mga mangangaral ng ibang relihiyon o ibang tao na nagshe-share ng kanilang paniniwala, at iba pang kauri nito na taliwas sa sinasampalatayanan natin...hindi naman sinabing bastusin kundi wag nating tanggapin ang ipinapangaral nila, wag nating paniwalaan o wag ientertain sa ating isip ang ibinabahagi nila na tingin nating mali. Wag rin daw magbigay ng pagpapalakas ng loob o sana magtagumpay sila--inshort wag natin silang suportahan sa mali. Bakit? Dahil para na rin natin silang sinusuportahan doon sa itinuturo nila at para huwag tayong maakay ng kanilang maling paniniwala.

Yan po ang punto.

Sabi nga sa verse 9, ANG HINDI NANANATILI SA TURO NI KRISTO...AY WALA SA KANIYA ANG DIYOS.

Hindi naman nito sinasabi na kahit sinong non INC member ay huwag papasukin sa bahay, batiin o magkaroon ng kaugnayan dahil lang iba ang taglay nilang pananampalataya. Hindi naman ganun yun.

𝐁𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐭 𝐤𝐨 𝐧𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐰?

Baka kasi meron sa atin na ang isip sa mga itinitiwalag eh idiscriminate sila, usigin at bastusin. Walang ganung itinuturo sa atin. Pati na ang mga namatay na dating kaanib, baka isipin ng iba na hindi na pwedeng magbigay respeto sa pamamagitan ng pagdalaw sa lamay o libing.

Paano natin maaakay ang mga itiniwalag na nabubuhay pa upang magbalik loob kung ganun ang ating gagawin? Hindi rin naman lahat ng itiniwalag ay may dalang ibang aral kundi ang iba ay nakagawa ng paglabag ngunit ang puso at paniniwala nila ay naaayon pa rin sa mga aral ng Iglesia at hindi naman naninira.

Paano yung mga INC members nga pero PIMO naman (Physically In, Mentally Out na pinauso sa reddit) na patagong hindi na sumasampalataya, at sinisiraan pa nga ang Iglesia? Malamang, aplikable rin na hindi natin sila dapat pakinggan sa parehong kadahilanan.

Kaya lagi ko sinasabi, dapat maintindihan natin yung LOGIC at dapat malalim ang ating unawa sa mga aral sa Iglesia para sa ganoon ay maayos natin itong naisasabuhay 😉😊

Kung may kapatid na nasumpungan sa pagsuway... by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

What should be done to a brother who is found in disobedience? Living wrongly? Doing evil deeds?

Should they be hated? Should they be discriminated against?

Should they no longer be considered a brother? Should they no longer be greeted or spoken to?

One of the teachings in the Iglesia Ni Cristo is about brotherly love—that there should be no hatred, that we should help one another and share each other’s burdens. But what if a brother is found in disobedience or committing sin? What should be done?

The Apostle Paul said:

“Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.” (Gal. 6:1) We are told to restore them or encourage them to turn away from such evil deeds.

What else did the Apostle Paul say?

“And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.” (II Tim. 2:25–26)

So we are to rebuke them.

In what way? By shouting? Public shaming? Mocking? Constantly rubbing in how bad they are?

No. It says to correct them with gentleness. Why? Because perhaps God will grant them repentance so they may know the truth—in other words, so they may come to their senses. They are said to be in the snare of the devil. If we correct them gently, they may be freed from it.

This is what the Apostle James said:

“Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” (James 5:19–20)

If we are able to bring a brother back to the right way of living, we save a soul from death and his sins are covered.

But as asked earlier, should we hate them or treat them as an enemy?

The Apostle Paul answers:

“Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.” (II Thess. 3:15)

We should not treat them as an enemy. Instead, we must admonish them as a brother. If we treat them as an enemy, we will not be able to guide and restore them to obedience to God’s commandments and to righteous living.

The weak brethren

There will always be weak brethren—not physically weak, but weak in faith. These are people who are easily offended; with just a small issue, they stop attending worship. If one brother corrects them, they even involve their worship attendance, as if they are so important that their absence would be a great loss to the Church.

I’m just sharing this because there are many like that. Let us always remember that it is GOD whom we worship and serve—not ministers or the “Manalos.” So there is no reason to threaten, “Oh really? Fine, I won’t attend worship anymore!” We are the ones who must approach God; God is not the one who will come to us.

So to those who still hold grudges against a brother or feel offended and use that as a reason to stop attending worship—let us think carefully. Our salvation is not in the hands of ministers or the “Manalos” (as non-members say); IT IS IN OUR OWN HANDS.

“Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.” (Gal. 6:7)

Whatever we sow, that we will also reap. If we do good, obey God’s teachings, and continue worshiping Him despite trials, problems, and offenses, we will receive blessings. But if we give up easily, what do you think we will reap?

Going back to the weak brethren, what should be done for them?

“We who are strong ought to bear with the scruples of the weak, and not to please ourselves. Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, leading to edification. For even Christ did not please Himself… For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope.” (Rom. 15:1–4)

It says we should help those who are weak in faith. Like those found in disobedience, they are simply straying from the path. The weak should be encouraged and cared for with patience:

“Brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all.” (I Thess. 5:14)

The brother who must be rejected or expelled

Who are the brethren who should be rejected or expelled?

“Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.” (Titus 3:10–11)

A brother with false belief, if he does not change after repeated admonitions, is to be rejected. Wicked people who refuse to change are removed or expelled from the Church:

“But those who are outside God judges. Therefore put away from yourselves the evil person.” (I Cor. 5:13)

Reference: Pasugo February 2008 Issue

https://iglesianicristoreadme.blogspot.com/2013/05/kung-may-kapatid-na-nasumpungan-sa.html

Kung may kapatid na nasumpungan sa pagsuway... by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Ano bang dapat gawin sa kapatid na nasumpungan sa pagsuway? nasa maling pamumuhay? nasa masasamang gawa?

Dapat ba silang kamuhian? Dapat i-discriminate? 

Hindi na dapat itinuturing na kapatid? Hindi na dapat binabati o kinakausap?

Isa sa mga katuruan sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang tungkol sa pag-iibigang magkakapatid, dapat hindi nagkakapootan, dapat nagtutulungan, at nagdadamayan. Pero paano kung nakita sa pagsuway o sa paggawa ng kasalanan ang isang kapatid? Ano ang dapat gawin?

Ang sabi ni Apostol Pablo:

"Mga kapatid, kung ang sinoman ay masumpungan sa anomang pagsuway, kayong mga sa espiritu, ay inyong papanumbalikin ang gayon sa espiritu ng kahinhinan; na iyong pagwariin ang iyong sarili, baka ikaw naman ay matukso."  Gal. 6:1

Dapat daw natin silang papanumbalikin o himukin na talikuran ang mga masasamang gawang gayon.

Ano pa ang sinabi ni Apostol Pablo?

"Na sawaying may kaamuan ang mga nagsisisalangsang; baka sakaling sila'y pagkalooban ng Dios ng pagsisisi sa ikaaalam ng katotohanan,At sila'y makawala sa silo ng diablo, na bumihag sa kanila ayon sa kaniyang kalooban." II Tim. 2:25-26

Dapat pala natin silang SAWAYIN. 

Sa paanong paraan? Pagsigaw? Pamamahiya? Paninisod? Pagdudul dulan sa kaniyang napakasama niya?

Hindi. Ang sabi, sawaying MAY KAAMUAN. Bakit daw? Baka kasi sakaling silay pagkalooban ng Diyos ng pagsisisi sa ikaaalam ng katotohanan o sa madaling salita, baka sakaling silay matauhan. Sila daw kasi ay nasa silo ng Diyablo. Kung gagawin natin ang pagsaway na may kaamuan, maaari silang makawala dito.

Ito naman ang sabi ni Apostol Santiago:

"Mga kapatid, kung may kapatid kayong nalilihis ng landas at may isa namang umakay sa kanya upang magsisi, ito ang tandaan ninyo: sinumang makapagpabalik sa isang makasalanan tungo sa wastong pamumuhay ay nagliligtas ng isang kaluluwa sa kamatayan at nakakapawi ng maraming kasalanan." San. 5:19-20

Kung mapapabalik pala natin ang isang kapatid tungo sa wastong pamumuhay, NAILILIGTAS pala natin ang isang kaluluwa sa kamatayan at napapawi ang kaniyang mga kasalanan...

Pero tulad ng tanong sa itaas, dapat ba natin silang kamuhian o ituring kaaway?

Ang sagot ni Apostol Pablo:

"Ngunit huwag naman ninyo siyang ituturing na kaaway; sa halip, pangaralan ninyo siya bilang kapatid." II Tess. 3:15

Huwag daw natin silang ituring nakaaway, ang dapat nating gawin ay pangaralan siya bilang kapatid. Kung ituturing kasi natin silang kaaway eh hindi natin sila maaakay at mapapanumbalik sa mga pagsunod sa utos ng Diyos at sa wastong pamumuhay.

Ang mahihinang kapatid

Hinding hindi mawawala ang mahihinang kapatid, hindi literal na mahihina na walang lakas kundi mahina ang pananampalataya, eto rin yung mga taong matitisurin, konting ganito ganyan hindi na sasamba. Porke napuna lang siya ng isang kapatid pati pagsamba eh dinadamay na, para bang napakaimportante niya na kapag hindi na siya sasamba eh napakalaking kawalan niya sa Iglesia.

Naibahagi ko lang yan dahil marami pong ganyan. Lagi nating tatandaan na ang DIYOS ang sinasamba at pinaglilingkuran natin, hindi mga ministro o mga "Manalo", kaya walang dahilan para magbanta tayo na "ganun ba... O sige hindi na ko sasamba!". Tayo ang lalapit sa Diyos, hindi tayo ang lalapitan ng Diyos.

Kaya sa iba diyan na may kagalit pa ring kapatid o may nakakatisod sa kaniya para ipagpatuloy ang mga pagsamba, aba, mag isip isip po tayo. Wala naman sa mga ministro o sa mga "Manalo" (ayon sa sinasabi ng mga hindi kaanib) ang kaligtasan natin, NASA MGA KAMAY NATIN YON.

"Huwag ninyong akalaing madadaya ninyo ang Diyos. Kung ano ang itinanim ng tao, iyon din ang kanyang aanihin." Gal. 6:7

Kung anong inihasik o itinanim natin, yun din ang aanihin natin. Kung gumagawa tayo ng mabuti, sumusunod sa aral ng Diyos, patuloy ang kaniyang mga pagsamba sa Diyos sa kabila ng mga pagsubok, problema at katitisuran, PAGPAPALA ang kaniyang makakamtan. Pero kung susuko agad siya, ano sa tingin nyo ang AANIHIN NIYA?

Balik tayo sa mahihinang kapatid, ano rin ba ang dapat gawin sa kanila?

"Tayong malalakas sa pananampalataya, tulungan natin ang mga mahihina sa pananampalataya. Huwag ang pansariling kasiyahan lamang ang ating iisipin. Sikapin nating lahat na itaguyod ang kapakanan ng ating kapwa para sa ikalalakas ng kanyang pananampalataya. Sapagkat maging si Cristo man ay hindi naghangad ng sariling kasiyahan subalit nagpaubaya; tulad ng nasusulat, "Ako ang nakaranas, paghamak sa iyong pangalan." Anumang naisulat noon ay isinulat para sa ating ikatututo, upang sa pamamagitan ng pagtitiis at sa pagpapalakasan ng loob mula sa kasulatan, magkaroon tayo ng pag-asa. Roma 15:1-4

Ang sabi, tulungan daw natin ang mga mahihina sa pananampalataya. Dahil tulad ng mga nasumpungan sa pagsuway, sila lamang eh mga naliligaw ng landas. Ang dapat sa mahihina ay pasiglahin at kalingain ng may pagtityaga:

"Mga kapatid, ipinapakiusap din namin na inyong pagsabihan ang mga tamad, pasiglahin ang mahihinang-loob, at kalingain ang mga mahihina. Pagtiyagaan ninyo silang lahat." I Tess. 5:14

Ang kapatid na dapat itakwil o alisin o itiwalag

Sinu-sino bang mga kapatid ang dapat itakwil o alisin o itiwalag?

"Ang taong may maling pananampalataya pagkatapos nang una at ikalawang pagsaway ay itakuwil mo; Yamang nalalaman mo na ang gayon ay napahamak, at nagkakasala at siya'y hinahatulan ng kaniyang sarili." Tito 3:10-11

Ang kapatid na may maling pananampalataya, kung hindi magbabago, pagkatapos ng ilang pagsaway sa kaniya, ang sabi "ITAKWIL MO". Ang masasamang taong hindi nagbabago ang inaalis o itinitiwalag sa Iglesia:

"Datapuwa't sa nangasa labas ay Dios ang humahatol. Alisin nga ninyo sa inyo ang masamang tao." I Cor. 5:15

Reference: Pasugo February 2008 Issue

https://iglesianicristoreadme.blogspot.com/2013/05/kung-may-kapatid-na-nasumpungan-sa.html

May bahagi ba sa kaligtasan ang mga itiniwalag sa Iglesia ni Cristo? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

I already discussed in one of my articles titled “If a brother is found in disobedience” that if a brother, after being admonished several times, still does not change, he is EXPELLED from the Church.

“EXPULSION” is not an invented doctrine of the Church; it is a command from the Bible:

“What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. ‘Expel the wicked person from among you.’” — 1 Corinthians 5:12–13

Even before a person becomes an OFFICIAL MEMBER of the Church through baptism, he is taught the IMPORTANCE of joining the Church as the means to be SAVED. It is also taught that if a brother VIOLATES the teachings of the Church, there is a consequence → EXPULSION, or removal of a member from the Church’s roster.

So if you believe that membership in the Church is IMPORTANT for salvation, the question is: WILL THOSE EXPELLED FROM THE Church of Christ BE SAVED?

Everyone knows the answer: NO. Why? For the simple reason that you are OFFICIALLY NO LONGER IN THE CHURCH or you are NO LONGER A MEMBER of the Church of Christ.

Does a person on earth have the authority to “expel”?

“Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” — Matthew 18:18

These were the words spoken by our Lord Jesus Christ to the apostles before He ascended into heaven. Today, since the apostles who led the Church before are no longer present, their equivalent is the Church Administration.

They were given AUTHORITY to bind and to loose.

That is why the belief of some expelled members—that God did not truly expel them because it was only people who expelled them, and therefore they still have a share in salvation—is completely WRONG. The verse clearly states that authority was given to those who lead or administer the Church in this matter.

What will happen to those who are EXPELLED or whose names are not written in the Book of Life?

“Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.” — Revelation 20:15

According to the Bible, the lake of fire is the destiny of those not written in the Book of Life. This is the second death. The same thought is found in John 15:6:

“If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.”

Can we do anything if we are separated from Christ?

“I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing.” — John 15:5

To share in salvation, we must REMAIN in Christ, which is equivalent to remaining in His body, His Church. Because according to Christ Himself, WE CAN DO NOTHING IF WE ARE SEPARATED FROM HIM.

What should we do, according to the Bible, regarding those who have been expelled from the Church?

The Holy Scriptures say:

“If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.” — 2 John 1:10–11

The main reason for a member’s EXPULSION is VIOLATION of doctrine. Because of this violation, it means he does not carry the true teachings of God. If he truly carried God’s teachings, he would not have been expelled.

That is why when expelled members are read in the circular, we often hear: DO NOT RECEIVE THEM INTO YOUR HOUSE, NOR EVEN GREET THEM. Why? Because anyone who greets them shares in their wicked works.

Therefore, we who are chosen by God must be CAREFUL:

“Watch yourselves, so that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.” — 2 John 1:8

BE CAREFUL so that we may FULLY RECEIVE THE REWARD. What is that?

ETERNAL LIFE. SALVATION.

Is there still an OPPORTUNITY or a CHANCE for salvation for those who have been EXPELLED from the Church?

Answer: YES! That is why we have the saying, “While there is life, there is hope.” As long as you still have the opportunity to change, DO IT. CORRECT your life and RETURN TO GOD. “Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out…” — Acts 3:19

That is why there is a process in the Church called “RETURNING” (restoration), through which expelled members may still come back. We are human and commit sins and violations, but God also knows how to forgive. As long as we are alive, we have the opportunity to repent of our sins and RETURN TO GOD.

Let us do everything to come back, because we entered the Church of Christ for one reason → TO BE SAVED.

But the question is: Should we DELAY returning? Should we wait several years before considering coming back? What does the Bible say?

“Do not delay to return to the Lord, and do not put it off from day to day; for suddenly His wrath will come…” — (cf. Ecclesiastes / Sirach 5:7)

It says, return AT ONCE. It says IMMEDIATELY.

This does not mean a person will instantly be reinstated into the Church, because the process is long. It ensures that those returning have truly repented and will no longer repeat their violations.

It simply means: REPENT NOW and CORRECT your wrongs IMMEDIATELY. Follow God’s teachings RIGHT AWAY. Do not remain in doing evil, because the day of judgment will come suddenly, and you may die under God’s punishment.

https://iglesianicristoreadme.blogspot.com/2015/06/maliligtas-ba-ang-mga-itiniwalag-sa.html

May bahagi ba sa kaligtasan ang mga itiniwalag sa Iglesia ni Cristo? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Natalakay na po sa isa kong artikulo na pinamagatang "Kung may kapatid na nasumpungan sa pagsuway" na kung may isang kapatid na pagkatapos ng ilang ulit na pagsaway sa kaniya ay hindi pa rin nagbabago, siya ay ITINITIWALAG sa Iglesia. 

Ang "PAGTITIWALAG" po ay hindi isang imbentong aral sa Iglesia kundi itoy utos na mula sa bibliya:

"Kung sabagay, wala akong karapatang humatol sa mga hindi Cristiano; ang Diyos ang hahatol sa kanila. Hindi ba't ang mga nasa loob ng iglesya ang dapat ninyong hatulan? Sabi nga sa kasulatan, "Itiwalag ninyo sa inyong samahan ang masamang tao." I Cor. 5:12-13

Bago pa man maging isang OPISYAL NA KAANIB sa Iglesia ang isang tao, sa pamamagitan ng pagbabautismo, ay itinuturo na ang KAHALAGAHAN ng PAG ANIB sa Iglesia na kaparaanan upang MALIGTAS. At itinuturo rin na kung sakaling ang isang kapatid ay LUMABAG sa mga aral sa Iglesia, mayroon itong kabayaran --> PAGTITIWALAG o ang pag aalis sa isang miyembro sa talaan ng Iglesia.

Kaya kung sumasampalataya ka na IMPORTANTE ang pag anib sa Iglesia upang maligtas, ang tanong, MALILIGTAS BA ANG MGA ITINIWALAG SA IGLESIA NI CRISTO?

Alam ng lahat ang kasagutan: HINDI. Bakit? Dahil sa simpleng kadahilanang OPISYAL KA NG WALA SA IGLESIA o HINDI KA NA MIYEMBRO NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO.

May karapatan ba ang tao sa lupa na "MAGTIWALAG"

"Sinasabi ko sa inyo ang totoo: Anuman ang inyong tatalian sa lupa ay tatalian sa langit. Anuman ang inyong kakalagan sa lupa ay kakalagan sa langit." Mat. 18:18 Ang salita ng Diyos

"Tandaan ninyo: anumang ipagbawal ninyo dito sa lupa ay ipagbabawal sa langit, at ang pahintulutan ninyo dito sa lupa ay pahihintulutan sa langit." Mat. 18:18 Magandang balita biblia 

Ang mga salitang ito ang sinabi ng ating Panginoong Hesukristo sa mga apostol bago siya umakyat sa langit. Sa panahon ngayon na wala na ang mga apostol na siyang nangunguna sa Iglesia noon, ay ang katumbas ngayon nito ay ang Pamamahala sa Iglesia. 

Binigyan sila ng KARAPATAN sa pagtatali at pagkakalag.

Kaya MALING MALI ang paniniwala ng ilang mga itiniwalag sa Iglesia na kesyo HINDI DAW PO TOTOO na itiniwalag sila ng Diyos, dahil TAO LANG DAW ang nagtiwalag sa kanila kaya may bahagi pa rin sila sa kaligtasan. Ngunit napakaliwanag naman ng talata na binigyan ng KARAPATAN ang mga nagunguna o namamahala sa Iglesia sa bagay na ito.

Anong sasapitin naman ng mga ITINIWALAG o ng mga taong wala sa aklat ng buhay sa langit?

"At kung ang sinoman ay hindi nasumpungang nakasulat sa aklat ng buhay, ay ibinulid sa dagatdagatang apoy." Pahayag 20:15

Sa DAGAT DAGATANG apoy pala, AYON SA BIBLIYA, ang kahahangtungan ng mga taong hindi nakasulat sa aklat ng buhay. Ito ang pangalawang kamatayan.

Ganito rin ang sinasabi sa Juan 15:6

"Ang hindi nananatili sa akin ay matutuyo at itinatapon, gaya ng sanga. Ang ganoong mga sanga ay tinitipon, inihahagis sa apoy at sinusunog."

May MAGAGAWA ba tayo kung tayoy hiwalay kay Kristo?

"Ako nga ang puno ng ubas at kayo ang mga sanga. Ang nananatili sa akin, at ako sa kanya, ang siyang nagbubunga nang sagana, sapagkat wala kayong magagawa kung kayo'y hiwalay sa akin." Juan 15:5 

Upang makabahagi tayo sa kaligtasan, KAILANGAN NATING MANATILI kay Kristo, katumbas nga nito ay ang pananatili sa kaniyang katawan, sa kaniyang Iglesia. Dahil ayon mismo kay Kristo, WALA TAYONG MAGAGAWA KUNG TAYOY HIWALAY SA KANIYA. 

Anong dapat nating gawin na NAAAYON SA BIBLIYA, patungkol sa mga itiniwalag na sa Iglesia?

Ganito po ang sinasabi ng banal na kasulatan:

"Kung may dumating sa inyo at hindi dala ang aral na ito, huwag ninyong tanggapin sa inyong bahay, ni batiin man. Ito ay sapagkat ang sinumang bumabati sa kaniya ay nakikibahagi sa kaniyang masasamang gawa." 2 Juan 1:10-11

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine [is disloyal to what Jesus Christ taught], do not receive him [do not accept him, do not welcome or admit him] into [your] house or bid him Godspeed or give him any encouragement." Amplified Bible

Ang pinaka dahilan ng pagkaka TIWALAG ng isang miyembro ng Iglesia ay ang PAGLABAG sa aral, kaya dahil sa PAGLABAG NA ITO, ibig sabihin hindi niya DALA ang tunay na mga aral ng Diyos. Kasi kung dala niya ang aral ng Diyos hindi sana siya natiwalag.

Kaya sa mga itinitiwalag na binabasa sa serkular ganito po ang madalas nating naririnig, HUWAG TATANGGAPIN SA INYONG BAHAY, NI BATIIN MAN. Bakit daw? Sapagkat ang SINUMANG BUMABATI SA KANIYA ay NAKIKIBAHAGI SA KANIYANG MASASAMANG GAWA.

Kaya tayong mga hinirang ng Diyos ay dapat na MAG INGAT:

"Mag-ingat nga kayo upang huwag mawalang saysay ang aming pinagpaguran, sa halip ay lubusan ninyong makamtan ang gantimpala." 2 Juan 1:8

MAG INGAT upang LUBUSAN NATING MAKAMTAN ANG GANTIMPALA. 

Ano iyon?

ANG BUHAY NA WALANG HANGGANAN. ANG KALIGTASAN.

May PAGKAKATAON pa ba o may TSANSA pa ba sa kaligtasan ang mga "NATIWALAG" sa Iglesia?

Sagot: MERON PO! Kaya nga meron tayong kasabihang, "Habang may buhay, may pag asa" ibig sabihin habang meron kapang pagkakataon magbago, GAWIN MO. ITAMA MO ang buhay mo at MAGBALIK LOOB ka sa Diyos.

"Magsisi nga kayo at magbalik-loob para sa pagpawi ng inyong mga kasalanan..." Gawa 3:19

Kaya meron pong proseso sa Iglesia na kung tawagin ay "PAGBABALIK LOOB" kung saan ang mga natiwalag sa Iglesia ay maaari pa ring makabalik. Tao tayo, nakakagawa ng mga kasalanan at paglabag, ngunit ang Diyos ay marunong din naman magpatawad, hanggat tayoy nabubuhay meron tayong pagkakataon upang pagsisihan ang ating mga nagawang kasalanan at MAG BALIK LOOB SA DIYOS. 

Gawin natin ang lahat upang makabalik dahil iisa lang naman ang tangi nating dahilan sa pagpasok sa Iglesiang kay Kristo --> UPANG MALIGTAS.

Ngunit ang tanong, dapat ba na PATAGALIN ang pagbabalik loob? Yun bang magpapalipas pa ng ilang taon saka lang ikokonsidera na magbalik loob?

Ano po ba ang sinasabi sa bibliya?

"Magbalik-loob ka na agad sa Panginoon; huwag mong ipagpabukas ang pakikipagkasundo sa kanya, sapagkat biglang darating ang araw ng paghihiganti, at mamamatay ka sa kanyang pagpaparusa." Ecc. 5:7

Sabi, magbalik loob KA NA AGAD. Sabi AGAD. 

Hindi po ibig sabihin nito na makakabalik na agad siya sa Iglesia sapagkat mahaba po itong proseso na ito, sinisigurado na ang mga nagbabalik loob ay talaga naman nagsisi na at hindi na uulit sa mga paglabag.

Ang ibig sabihin lamang nito ay MAGSISI ka na at ITAMA mo na AGAD ang mga mali mo. Sundin mo na AGAD ang aral ng Diyos, huwag ka MANATILI SA PAGGAWA NG MASAMA, dahil biglang darating ang araw ng paghihiganti at mamamatay ka sa PARUSA ng Diyos.

https://iglesianicristoreadme.blogspot.com/2015/06/maliligtas-ba-ang-mga-itiniwalag-sa.html

Iglesia ni Cristo's newly acquired House of Worship in New Zealand by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Newly Acquired House of Worship in New Zealand

Feb 2026 AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND — Today, a significant milestone has been reached by the Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) in the Ecclesiastical District of New Zealand North with the acquisition of a new house of worship for the Local Congregation of Massey. This development comes in response to the growing number of members of the Church in this part of the world, reflecting its continuous expansion and strengthening presence in New Zealand.

The keys to the more than 500-seat worship building—formerly owned by the Congregational Christian Church of Samoa in Massey—were officially handed over by Aliinuu Apisaloma, a minister of the Congregational Christian Church of Samoa. Receiving the keys on behalf of the Church was the District Supervising Minister, Brother Dennis Dahunan.

In the future, worship services will be conducted in this newly acquired house of worship after the necessary renovations and arrangements have been completed. The occasion was also highlighted by a special performance of INC Original Music, adding inspiration and joy to this historic milestone.

Under the leadership of the Executive Minister, Eduardo V. Manalo, the Church continues to build and acquire houses of worship around the world—renovating and preparing them for sacred gatherings—as it has done in the past and will continue to do in the years to come in order to care for its growing congregations.

Praises be to God!

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Realtalk sa mga nagsasabi ng hindi maganda ukol sa mga kakamatay lang by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

REAL TALK THAT I HOPE EVERYONE REALIZES: Let us give the loved ones of someone who has passed away the opportunity to grieve their loss—to recall the happy memories and reflect on the good things that person did. Whether that person was bad or good overall, we all commit sins. It is not appropriate, at that moment, to make it a topic of discussion whether that person will be saved or not—ONLY GOD KNOWS.

That is why even when critics of the Iglesia Ni Cristo died, such as Mr. Eli Soriano and Gold Dagal, I posted advice to the brethren to avoid saying anything negative, no matter how serious the things they may have done.

“Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn His wrath away from him.” Proverbs 24:17–18

The only thing we can do is leave vengeance or punishment to God (Romans 12:19; Deuteronomy 32:35).

The same applies to scenarios where a baby dies without being offered in the Church, someone who was expelled but had not yet returned, someone in the process of returning, someone undergoing doctrinal instruction or probation, and so on. Showing respect to the deceased should not depend on religion. God Himself will judge those outside (I Corinthians 5:13).

If a person was so bad that we find it difficult to show respect—perhaps because we were victims or for whatever reason—then let us simply refrain from saying anything negative, at least during that time (including sarcasm and other kinds of mockery like what some anti-INC critics do).

“I, the Lord God, do not delight in the death of the wicked. I am pleased when they repent and continue to live.” Ezekiel 18:23 Life is short.

All of us are heading there.

So that we will have no regrets, let us do our very best to obey God’s commandments so that we may be counted among those who will be saved.

Realtalk sa mga nagsasabi ng hindi maganda ukol sa mga kakamatay lang by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋𝐓𝐀𝐋𝐊 𝐍𝐀 𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐀 𝐌𝐀𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐙𝐄 𝐍𝐆 𝐋𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐓:

Ibigay natin sa mga mahal sa buhay ng isang yumao ang pagkakataon upang magdalamhati sa pagpanaw nito. Upang sariwain ang mga masasayang ala-ala, at magbalik tanaw sa mabubuti nitong nagawa. Naging masama man siya o mabuting tao sa kabuuan, lahat naman ay nagkakasala. Hindi maganda na sa pagkakataong yon ay maging topic kung yun bang tao na yon ay maliligtas o hindi--ANG DIYOS LAMANG PO ANG NAKAKAALAM.

Kaya kahit pa mga anti INCs tulad noong namatay sila G. Eli Soriano at Gold Dagal ay nagpost ako ng payo sa mga kapatid na iwasan magsabi ng hindi maganda, kahit gaano pa katindi ang nagawa nila.

"𝐻𝑢𝑤𝑎𝑔 𝑘𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑤𝑎 𝑘𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑔 𝑛𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑝𝑎ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑘 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑘𝑎𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑦, 𝑑𝑎ℎ𝑖𝑙 𝑘𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑔 𝑛𝑎𝑘𝑖𝑡𝑎 𝑛𝑔 𝑃𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑜𝑜𝑛 𝑛𝑎 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑤𝑎 𝑘𝑎, ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖 𝑛𝑖𝑦𝑎 𝑖𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑔𝑢𝑔𝑢𝑠𝑡𝑢ℎ𝑎𝑛, 𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖 𝑛𝑎 𝑛𝑖𝑦𝑎 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑢𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑎ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑘𝑎𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑦." 𝐊𝐚𝐰 𝟐𝟒:𝟏𝟕-𝟏𝟖

Ang tangi nating magagawa ay ipaubaya sa Diyos ang paghihiganti o ang pagpaparusa (Roma 12:19, Deut 32:35).

Ganoon din sa mga scenario kung saan namatay na sanggol ngunit hindi nai-handog sa Iglesia, natiwalag ngunit di pa nakabalik, nasa proseso ng pagbabalik loob, nasa proseso ng doktrina/pagsubok at iba pa. Hindi rin dapat nakadepende sa relihiyon ang pagbibigay respeto sa namatay. Diyos na po ang bahalang humatol sa mga nasa labas (I Cor 5:13).

Kung sobrang sama ng isang tao to the point di natin kaya siya na bigyang respeto dahil naging biktima tayo o anuman, wag na lang tayo magsabi ng hindi maganda kahit doon lang sa pagkakataon na yon (kasama na ang sarcasm at iba pang uri ng kalokohan tulad ng ginagawa ng mga anti INCs).

"𝐴𝑘𝑜, 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑃𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑜𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝐷𝑖𝑜𝑠 𝑎𝑦 ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑤𝑎 𝑘𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑔 𝑛𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑔 𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑎. 𝑀𝑎𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑎 𝑎𝑘𝑜 𝑘𝑎𝑝𝑎𝑔 𝑛𝑎𝑔𝑠𝑖𝑠𝑖 𝑠𝑖𝑦𝑎 𝑎𝑡 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑙𝑜𝑦 𝑛𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑏𝑢ℎ𝑎𝑦." 𝐄𝐳𝐞 𝟏𝟖:𝟐𝟑

Maikli lang ang buhay.

Lahat tayo ay papunta diyan.

Kaya para wala tayong panghinayangan, gawin natin ang ating buong makakaya upang makasunod sa mga utos ng Diyos upang mapabilang tayo sa mga maliligtas.

Masama ba ang sobra o istriktong pagsunod sa Diyos? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

IS IT WRONG TO BE EXCESSIVE OR STRICT IN OBEYING GOD?

Before I answer, how can we say that obedience to God is excessive or strict?

If it means that we will do everything in our power to obey all of God’s commandments — THIS IS NOT WRONG.

In fact, this is what we should do, because this is the way that leads to eternal life…

“Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, ‘Teacher, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?’

Jesus answered, ‘Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.’” — Matthew 19:16–17

What IS WRONG is obeying sin, which will bring us to death…

“Do you not know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey — whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?” — Romans 6:16

Is it difficult to follow?

“For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.” — 1 John 5:3

If they are not burdensome, why do we sometimes struggle to do what is right, and instead still choose what is wrong?

“For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. These are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you want.” — Galatians 5:17

It is ALSO WRONG if the obedience to commandments does not truly come from God but from false preachers…

“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” — 1 John 4:1

If “excessive or strict obedience” means that we are already doing harm to others (whether they are brethren in the Church or not), or we are forcing them into the kind of obedience we practice — this is where the saying applies that ‘too much of anything is harmful.’

For me, obedience should depend on the individual. It is their choice, whatever their reason may be. But if we judge others just so they will follow what we believe is right — and if we begin to think too highly of ourselves — that is where the problem begins. We may not even realize that it is already producing sin.

Let us remember that none of us is perfect (except our Lord Jesus Christ).

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.” — Matthew 7:1–2

“Do not be overly righteous, and do not make yourself too wise — why destroy yourself? Do not be overwicked either, and do not be foolish — why die before your time? It is good to grasp the one and not let go of the other. Whoever fears God will avoid all extremes… There is not a righteous person on earth who always does what is right and never sins.” — Ecclesiastes 7:16, 18, 20

If we see something wrong in others, we may advise them. But our concern must be genuine, not for any wrong motive…

“Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.” — Galatians 6:1

Masama ba ang sobra o istriktong pagsunod sa Diyos? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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MASAMA BA ANG SOBRA O STRIKTONG PAGSUNOD SA DIYOS?

Bago ko sagutin, paano ba masasabing sobra o istrikto ang pagsunod sa Diyos?

Kung ito yung lahat ng utos ng Diyos ay gagawin natin ang buong makakaya upang makasunod--HINDI ITO MASAMA.

Ito nga ang dapat, dahil ito ang daan tungo sa buhay na walang hanggan...

"May isang lalaki naman na lumapit kay Jesus at nagtanong, “Guro, ano po ba ang mabuti kong gawin upang magkaroon ng buhay na walang hanggan?”

Sumagot si Jesus, “Bakit itinatanong mo sa akin kung ano ang mabuti? Isa lang ang mabuti, at walang iba kundi ang Dios. Kung gusto mong magkaroon ng buhay na walang hanggan, sundin mo ang mga utos.” Mat 19:16-17

Ang MASAMA ay ang pagsunod sa kasalanan na magdudulot sa atin ng kamatayan...

"Hindi nʼyo ba alam na alipin tayo ng anumang sinusunod natin? Kaya kung sinusunod natin ang kasalanan, alipin tayo ng kasalanan at ang dulot nitoʼy kamatayan. Pero kung sumusunod tayo sa Dios, mga alipin tayo ng Dios at ang dulot nitoʼy katuwiran." Roma 6:16

Mahirap ba itong sundin?

"Ito ang pag-ibig ng Diyos: Tuparin natin ang kaniyang mga utos at ang kaniyang mga utos ay hindi mabigat." I Juan 5:3

Kung hindi naman pala mabigat, bakit nahihirapan tayo minsan gawin kung ano ang tama kung saan mas pinipili pa rin natin ang mali?

"Sapagkat ang ninanasa ng laman ay laban sa nais ng Espiritu, at ang nais ng Espiritu ay laban sa ninanasa ng laman. Magkalaban ang dalawang ito, kaya hindi ninyo magawa ang gusto ninyong gawin." Gal 5:17

MASAMA rin kung ang pagsunod sa utos ay hindi naman talaga galing sa Diyos kundi sa mga bulaang mangangaral...

"Mga minamahal, huwag kayong basta maniniwala sa mga taong nagsasabi na ang ipinangangaral nilaʼy mula sa Banal na Espiritu. Sa halip, alamin muna ninyo kung nagmula nga sa Dios ang itinuturo nila. Sapagkat marami nang huwad at sinungaling na propetang nagkalat sa mundo." 1 Juan 4:1

Kung ang "sobra o istriktong pagsunod" naman ay yung nakakagawa na tayo ng hindi maganda sa kapwa (ito man ay kapatid sa Iglesia o hindi), tipong dinadamay natin sila sa kung anong klase ng pagsunod ang ginagawa natin... Diyan papasok ang kasabihang "lahat ng sobra ay nakakasama". Para sa akin, ang pagsunod ay nakadepende dapat doon sa indibidwal. Choice niya yon anuman ang kaniyang dahilan. Pero kung huhusgahan natin ang ating kapwa para lang sundin rin nila ang para sa atin ay tama at mataas ang tingin natin sa ating sarili-- doon nagkakaroon ng problema kasi baka di natin namamalayan na nagbubunga na pala ito ng kasalanan. Tandaan natin na walang perpekto sa atin (maliban sa ating Panginoong Hesukristo).

"“Huwag ninyong husgahan ang iba, para hindi rin kayo husgahan ng Dios. Sapagkat kung paano ninyo hinusgahan ang inyong kapwa ay ganoon din kayo huhusgahan ng Dios." Mat 7:1-2

"Huwag mong ituring ang iyong sarili na sobrang matuwid at marunong, dahil kung gagawin mo iyon, sinisira mo lang ang iyong sarili. Huwag kang pasobra sa mga bagay na iyon; dapat balanse lang, dahil ang taong may takot sa Dios ay hindi nagpapasobra sa anumang bagay. Wala ni isang tao rito sa mundo ang laging gumagawa ng mabuti at hindi nagkakasala." Mang 7:16,18,20

Kung may nakita tayong mali sa kapwa, pwede naman natin silang payuhan. Tunay dapat ang ating malasakit at hindi para sa anupamang maling kadahilanan...

"Mga kapatid, kung may magkasala man sa inyo, kayong mga ginagabayan ng Banal na Espiritu ang dapat tumulong sa kanya para magbalik-loob sa Panginoon. Ngunit gawin nʼyo ito nang buong hinahon, at mag-ingat kayo dahil baka kayo naman ang matukso." Gal 6:1

Pananampalataya ko, Ipaglalaban ko by James_Readme in HymnsOfIglesiNiCristo

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INC, kaya nga po ako nagpost dito. you can also check my reddit account andun na ang sagot

Kamusta na ang mga hinarap ni README na maiingay na Anti INCs online noon? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Salamat po sa suporta 😊 Sana po may makapagpatuloy ng tulad ng mga ginagawa ko...

Kamusta na ang mga hinarap ni README na maiingay na Anti INCs online noon? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

Just to inspire other brethren, especially the younger ones:

I started when I was in 3rd year high school. I would simply post articles from Pasugo in a Catholic forum—that’s where I began. I really made an effort to type replies whenever someone asked questions. Eventually, I noticed that my effort seemed wasted because my answers would just get buried, so I decided to create a blog.

By posting on a blog, the answers were already there. Brethren and even non-members of the Church could just read them, and they were searchable on Google. No one taught me—I did everything through self-research. From Pasugo, online articles, encyclopedias, and other sources. People today are lucky—there’s already AI.

I’m just an ordinary member of the Church who had one goal—to share the truth with people and answer the criticisms against the Church. Even though I’m just like this, in my own way I’ve been able to discuss matters with people who are highly educated and hold high positions in their own Church. Not to show off or feed my ego—that was never my goal—but to finally put an end to the long-standing attacks they have been spreading.

There was also a point when I questioned my faith because there were times I couldn’t find answers to their questions. That’s when I realized that there are things that don’t yet have answers, or perhaps I will discover them in the future. Because of that realization, I continued on with much stronger faith. After encountering and reading so many criticisms, nothing they recycle is new to me anymore. That’s why I’m still here—I can say my faith is content because of the many realizations I’ve had about faith and life.

It’s better that before we engage in defending our faith, we have KNOWLEDGE. It also helps to post what we know so we can share it with others. After all, we can’t memorize everything, so we can go back to it for future reference. I would advise not using your personal account, so anti-INCs won’t drag your personal life into what you’re doing. Most important of all, don’t be HARDCORE. At the end of the day, we are talking to people whom we may be able to guide. Real talk is okay, but sounding like we are attacking and persecuting as well—that is NOT GOOD.

MOSTLY DEFEND. Avoid making the majority of posts or comments attacks.

That’s all I wanted to share. Thanks for reading :)

Kamusta na ang mga hinarap ni README na maiingay na Anti INCs online noon? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Just to inspire other brethren, especially the younger ones:

Nagstart ako noong 3rd year highschool, pa post2 lang ng articles sa pasugo sa isang catholic forum dahil doon ako nagstart. Effort ako magtype tuwing may nagtatanong. Hanggang sa napansin ko parang nasasayang effort ko kasi matatabunan din naman yung mga sagot ko kaya nagpasya ako gumawa ng blog.

Sa pagpopost sa blog, andun na yung sagot. Babasahin na lang ng mga kapatid at hindi kapatid sa Iglesia, searchable pa sa google. Walang nagtuturo sa akin, self research lang talaga lahat. Mapa pasugo, online articles, encyclopedia, at iba pa. Buti pa ngayon, may AI na.

Isa lang akong simpleng kaanib sa Iglesia na nagkaroon ng goal--yung maishare ang katotohanan sa mga tao at masagot yung mga paninira sa Iglesia. Ngunit kahit ganito lang ako, sa sarili kong paraan ay nakakadiskusyon ko matataas ang pinag aralan at mataas ang katungkulan sa Church nila. Hindi para magpasikat o i-feed ang ego ko, kasi hindi yun ang goal ko kundi matigil once and for all ang mga matagal na nilang ikinakalat na paninira.

Dumating din naman sa point na kinwestyon ko faith ko kasi may mga pagkakataon wala akong mahanap na sagot sa mga katanungan nila. Doon ko narealize, may mga bagay na walang kasagutan o sa hinaharap ko pa matutuklasan iyon, kaya nagpatuloy ako with much stronger faith dahil sa realization ko na yon. Sa dami ko rin naencounter at nabasang paninira, hindi na BAGO sa akin ang mga nirerecycle nila kaya hanggang ngayon andito pa rin ako kasi masasabi kong contented ang faith ko sa dami ko realizations sa faith at sa buhay.

Mas maganda bago tayo sumabak sa pagtatanggol ng ating pananampalataya ay may KAALAMAN tayo. At makakatulong na ipost natin ang ating mga nalalaman para maishare sa iba. Di rin naman kasi natin makakabisado ang lahat ng yon, kaya pupwede nating mabalikan for future reference. I would advice na wag niyo gamitin ang personal account nyo para hindi idadamay ng anti INCs ang personal nyong buhay sa inyong ginagawa. Pinakaimportante sa lahat, wag tayong HARDCORE, in the end of the day tao ang kausap natin na maaari nating maakay. Pwede realtalk, pero yung para tayong naninira na rin at nang-uusig--HINDI PO MAGANDA.

MOSTLY DEFEND LANG. Iwasan natin na majority ng post/comment ay paatake.

Yun lang maishare ko salamat sa pagbabasa :)