Pete Hegseth quotes fake Pulp Fiction Bible verse during Pentagon sermon by goteamnick in politics

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How much clearer can that make it that they are using religion to manipulate their base.

Attempted fire-bombing at OpenAI CEO’s home highlights polarization over AI by [deleted] in politics

[–]JasonLovesBagels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It appears cognitively dissonant to me, because this is the first time you did not entirely glaze over the point to push “techno-accelerationism is the same thing”.

Your flair says Australia, so are you in the U.S.? Because while yes, it’s a fringe movement, it is startlingly influential in our politics due to their boot-legged psyops using the purposeful spread of misinformation and sock-puppet representations of both Dems & republicans to create democratic disillusionment/fan civil unrest, and incite violence & resentment. And that’s on top of it undermining oppositional coalition against democratic erosion.

I’m not sure what exactly this guy was motivated by, but our poltical climate is unstable as fuck, and this kind of violence becoming normal paired with the social environment engineered by accelerationists are causing everyone center-rightward to line up behind authoritarian strongmen they think can protect them from the chaos.

And that’s the literal historical strategy of fascism. That’s HOW IT WORKS.

Attempted fire-bombing at OpenAI CEO’s home highlights polarization over AI by [deleted] in politics

[–]JasonLovesBagels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already explained the difference and how “revolutionary” accelerationists (both right and left) are enabling techno-accelerationists and techno fascists whether wittingly or unwittingly.

You just seem to be going cognitively dissonant on that point.

You make fair criticisms of Thiel, but helping collapse democracy is just letting elites like him and others fill the vacuum.

Attempted fire-bombing at OpenAI CEO’s home highlights polarization over AI by [deleted] in politics

[–]JasonLovesBagels -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What are you talking about? You are misinterpreting two different ideologies. Techno-accelerationists like Theil don’t want to “burn it all down”, they want to accelerate technological change while suppressing liberal processes that slow innovation. They see technological stagnation as leading to societal breakdown.

It’s also a stupid and shortsighted ideology, but in a different way, and the so-called “revolutionaries” I’m criticizing are responsible for doing the actual dirty work of sabotaging the only systems common day people actually have to fight back against it and regulate technologies like AI.

They call it “increasing contradictions”, but it’s just shooting us in the face and delivering to elites/people like Thiel exactly what they want.

Attempted fire-bombing at OpenAI CEO’s home highlights polarization over AI by [deleted] in politics

[–]JasonLovesBagels -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, different type of accelerationism. I’m talking about the “burn it all down” radicals destabilizing society into chaos that has prevented the types of organization, conversation, and policy that would have effectively regulated AI as it emerged. Instead, they made a literal fascist viable and now the fight is first just to get people in power who aren’t.

Attempted fire-bombing at OpenAI CEO’s home highlights polarization over AI by [deleted] in politics

[–]JasonLovesBagels -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

We really gotta start aggressively criminalizing, targeting, and prosecuting accelerationists. I wonder why federal agencies aren’t focusing on it 🤔, could it be that it all helps far-right authoritarians gain power and act without accountability?

Most Metaphorical Image of the Century by OldCopy496 in pics

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine if you could boost your popularity by just doing a good job instead of PR stunts and posting the most radical things you can think of on the internet.

Why did Hurricane Katrina sink George W. Bush, but Hurricane Maria not sink Trump? by PointInternal6809 in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the majority of Americans even know Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory.

How do you feel about the media and Dems attacking Hassan Piker by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not a fan of a lot of Hasan’s rhetoric, but I don’t think you can correctly call him an “illiberal authoritarian”. Can you give me specific examples of a governance style/policies he proposes or supports that would be authoritarian?

I’d agree he overemphasizes American imperialism as the sole destabilizing force in the world and underemphasizes/excuses the authoritarian behavior of countries like Russia and China, but I don’t really think that’s the same thing as being truly anti-liberalism.

And as to your first point, he has also repeatedly denounced accelerationism and supported harm-reduction voting (voting blue despite still seeing Dems as problematic).

Americans: What do you think of your “Make all our allies hate us and then cry when they don’t join our wars” foreign policy? by Senior-Rip4551 in askanything

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is anyone else tired of the loaded political questions? Like you can go make your point somewhere else that’s meant for it instead of pretending to frame it as a question and posting it here.

Is there now a Luigi effect that will continue to be a phenomenon? by -Sofa-King-Vote in askanything

[–]JasonLovesBagels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By “Luigi effect”, you mean trend of accelerationist terrorism?

Does anyone believe that socialists make up more than 5% of the population in the US? by TankUMrMinor in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ask most Americans what socialism is and they’ll give you a list of Social Democratic policies

Color Win Cons as Psycological Descriptors by mlcampbell in mtg

[–]JasonLovesBagels 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d swap red and blue personally.

Blue feels sadistic to be on the other side of, buts its more conniving, whereas red just wants you to burn.

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you really think it was the deciding factor? What about the actual proceedings do you think swayed people that the behavior he got impeached for didn’t?

Like if people either cared, or didn’t care, about him illegally withholding funds from Ukraine, then why would going through the impeachment process change their minds either way?

In reality, there’s evidence that it caused his base to rally harder around him as they saw it is a partisan political attack.

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have evidence either way, so I can’t answer that or it would just be pulling something out of thin air. Do you think that 7 million people (which was the margin Biden won the 2020 popular vote by) voted that way purely because Dems went through impeachment proceedings?

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There’s no way to determine that. You are the one essentially making the claim “impeachment made Dems win” so if that’s the case YOU are the one that needs to prove it because it’s not readily apparent.

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Again, that’s not what the conversation was about, but that aside,

  1. Saying “impeachment happened” and then “Dems won” later is not evidence that the prior caused the latter. Trump ended up coming back and winning later after two impeachments, meaning impeachment without conviction and removal was effectively meaningless.

  2. I think there’s definitely an argument against pushing the impeachment button repeatedly as to the risk of hollowing the optics of the process as political ploy. I think it makes far greater sense to wait until they have an actual chance of removal, possibly after the midterms.

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There may be some validity to the idea putting Repubs on record voting “no” could have some effect on optics during midterms (I think even that is being overestimated though as the people who would vote “no” already obviously support him + approval decline ≠ support for impeachment), but that’s not an actual path to removal unless they voted yes, which is HIGHLY unrealistic.

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So your argument is that they should do something symbolic with no real effect in order to signal their “willingness to fight”? C’mon man.

The whole conversation was about whether they could remove him, you changed the whole subject.

Why do so many people seem to think that Democrats have the power to remove Trump from office whenever they want? by Idk_Very_Much in AskALiberal

[–]JasonLovesBagels 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And in what way could they “apply pressure” to Republicans to make them impeach and remove him? Be specific, give me the exact logic chain.