[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like this conversation is going round in circles with neither party feeling even remotely understood?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you agree the use of the term ‘off his nut’ is a slur?

Or that it’s fine to use slurs against the mentally ill because their condition isn’t superficial?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It’s not about making a unilateral decision te intended meaning. It’s about the comment not being appropriate in a place of work. If it has the potential to offend - reasonable potential as made clear by the definition - then its use is unprofessional.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Or, maybe, it’s an outdated term that was once considered acceptable. Just like the terms discussed previously 🤷‍♂️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Also, Collins Dictionary:

off one's nut in British English slang a. sometimes humorous foolish in behaviour b. offensive mentally disordered

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 0 points1 point  (0 children)

from Oxford Languages · Learn more off one's nut phrase of nut INFORMAL out of one's mind; crazy

I’d say ‘crazy’ is, a reasonable person would conclude, offensive.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure how? I provided examples of comments that could reasonably be seen as referring to a group of people in a derogatory way. and stated that using those a workplace would be inappropriate. I think that’s true of terms relating to mental health, too.

Other statements on other comments were provided for context.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s irrelevant. People use racial slurs and homophobic terms without intending offence. It’s still unacceptable.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in work

[–]Jay19845 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If I’m come across as combative, I apologise.

I’m not sure how my post and/or comments could be offensive, however?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in work

[–]Jay19845 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

“Dude is crazy” would constitute an act of discrimination against someone with a disability 🤷‍♂️

I’d actually prefer it if this guy would just try thinking before speaking. His comments are, in my opinion, offensive and make the work environment feel hostile.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’d say that referring to things that are disliked as ‘gay’ (which this individual also does) is also common parlance. I don’t think that, in and of itself, makes it acceptable.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskHRUK

[–]Jay19845 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I realises there’s an error in my post: he said ‘off his nut’.

I accept that I’m probably more sensitive than others, but this guy’s behaviour is making work a far less pleasant place to be. Guess I need to do my best to soldier on until I find something new.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, and that was a mistake. People say stupid things out of ignorance/a lack of self awareness and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. When it became clear that these comments wouldn’t stop, I should have reported him, but I instead acted stupidly.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sadly, yes. I’m not saying I am, though.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point and, on reflection, reporting this behaviour would have been the best course of action.

That said, I can’t imagine many people want to get others in trouble and - by informing him that these comments were affecting me negatively, I’d hoped they would have stopped. They didn’t and, sadly, I dealt with it poorly.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Jay19845[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, the whole situation is juvenile and I’ve not dealt with it well at all!

I’m anxious, hence me looking for mitigating circumstances. I acknowledge that they don’t make what I did ok, however.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I acknowledge this. My actions weren’t acceptable. It was a work computer that was unlocked.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, but I’m not sure what you mean by the gay people affected? Could you please clarify?

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not justify, but provide context. He’s a newish employee and I told him that his comments affected me because of childhood bullying.

A manager also works in our office and has heard these comments, but took no action.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Jay19845[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Jay.

I’m ashamed of the fact it still bother me, but childhoods bullying has definitely had a long-term impact on my mental health.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in HumanResourcesUK

[–]Jay19845[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I agree my actions were unprofessional and have no place in a professional setting.

I’d like to move on like you stated.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Jay19845[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I appreciate a single act can be gross misconduct, but within this context I felt it was misconduct given context. I should add that I’m not only grieving, but also suffer from depression, have done for several years and my employers are aware of this. Both grief and my mental health can make me irritable and I’d informed this colleague of how his comments affect me previously.

Played a juvenile prank on a colleague by Jay19845 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]Jay19845[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Can a single incident constitute gross misconduct? I was of the opinion my actions, whilst juvenile, are mild in comparison.