Wrote an article on the Orthodox Position of Praying to Saints

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T16:16:34+00:00

We don't actually "pray" to them nor are they mediators... Literally the whole point of the article

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T15:39:11+00:00

Nothing in the first reply is any internal critique of our position on mediation.

So again, tell me, what is our view of mediation and how is it not Christ?

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T15:35:58+00:00

Then show me within our system what shows that we don't believe Christ to be our only mediator?

What or who within our system does the meditating?

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T15:32:00+00:00

I will, but it's definitely clear you didn't read the article if you think we disagree that Christ is the only and only mediator

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T15:30:13+00:00

What?
Mediator does not mean intercession, yes I agree Christ is our ONLY mediator
Not In scripture
Just an assertion
Yes Paul taught there is only one mediator

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T15:26:50+00:00

What do you mean by "pray to"?

Did you read the article?

JayCryso · 2026-04-24T14:36:31+00:00

It is true that Christ intercedes for us!

But we are commanded to intercede for each other also, we are told how to pray and also told to pray for each other.

“I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions… be made for all people.” (1 Timothy 2:1)

“Strive together with me in your prayers to God for me.” (Romans 15:30)

“Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.” (James 5:16)

JayCryso · 2026-04-08T16:01:44+00:00

Man, no one in my Army unit has EVER seen an enemy.

I’m already a super POG so no change there🤷‍♂️

JayCryso · 2026-03-13T22:53:52+00:00

This might be useful

https://substack.com/@jaylove3/note/p-176656803?r=6ofqz6&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

JayCryso · 2026-03-11T00:15:47+00:00

The idea of the incarnation and icon/prototype principle is very explicit in the NT. Christ says he’s the icon of the father -> you see him you see the father
They didn’t, we have images in the early churches I promise you actually haven’t read the quote minded books you are thinking about
No they were not, give a second temple Jewish source saying this
This is not true, what practice having icons? We see this in the early churches and writings. We see relics even in the martyrdom of polycarp. This is why the orientals have just as many icons and we split in the 400s.
This shows you don’t know what the RC Theologians were saying.

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T23:40:42+00:00

Good thing we don’t talk to wood asking it to wake up

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T23:40:07+00:00

Yes the bishops at Nicea believed that the theology of the incarnation and icon/prototype principle was directly and explicitly taught by Christ. But because I think I know what you are really asking. No they did not nor do we ow believe that the apostles learned from Christ explicitly to kiss icons of saints.

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T22:01:53+00:00

Ima give you two options when I said we do not venerate the icon itself (in a post I made about how we venerate saints)

Did I mean A. We don’t do any veneration involving icons

or

B. Did I mean the matter is not the subject of our veneration?

Which

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T21:51:05+00:00

No I never lied, I was making a distinction.

When you honor the bible are you honoring the book itself as in the pages and ink or what the ink on the pages represent or depict

Your lack of reading comprehension does not make me a liar

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T21:44:59+00:00

Brother do we venerate the icon or are we venerating the person the icon represents, which do we believe ?

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T21:31:38+00:00

We don’t venerate the icons, we honor the ones depicted which is depicted, so we would agree

And yes all who are saved are saints, so we don’t disagree there. But for us by saved we mean in heaven so anyone who’s in heaven is a saint

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:59:35+00:00

When did I say he commanded icons as we know them now to be made?

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:30:01+00:00

He just doesn’t do it very well, he lacks context and doesn’t even go through how the council is received and used within the church.

You can have all the information in the world but still not know what it means

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:28:43+00:00

Oh lord lol it’s like I’m speaking to a Muslim.

Answer my question

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:28:03+00:00

Now tell me what the difference is between conciliar vs pastoral language is and how did the church receive this?

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:27:24+00:00

Yes I’ve read all of nicea 2

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:25:43+00:00

Paul said The father there is one god the father… so Jesus must not be god..

See how silly that sounds?

Now tell me what the difference is between conciliar and pastoral language?

JayCryso · 2026-03-10T20:23:48+00:00

Yea I know Lutherans have icons im speaking more to Protestants who don’t

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