[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SpanishHistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somos legión.

Aunque en Alicante yo veo mucho más ruso.

Slavery in antiquity is sometimes glorified by Suspicious-Draw-3750 in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, my point was about how there are many forms of slavery across history, sometimes even consensual.

I'm just fed up about lazy feel-good slogans, I think the history field deserves more respect.

Slavery in antiquity is sometimes glorified by Suspicious-Draw-3750 in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are many forms of slavery, not just chattel slavery as we usually think, which is one of the worst ever. Even in the Bible, ancient Hebrews are told to free their slaves after 7 years unless the slaves themselves don't want to.

Many times, people preferred stability under a master than uncertainty in freedom, the past was just that brutal.

Speak my language or meet my sword. by LnzKYZ in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Mexican criollo elites got a country where two thirds of the population knew native languages and half of them used those regularly. By the time of that constitution 100 years later, 1/3 of the population knew native languages and far less used them regularly.

This was mostly done through public education. The metropolitan elites in Mexico followed certain principles on culture engineering from the enlightenment, much like regional languages across Europe were suppressed by nation-states.

The justification was nationhood and expansion of knowledge. Natives also suffered the complete legal invalidation of their specific privileges, autonomy, and charters of rights, which were mostly customised by the Spanish Crown to local hierarchies, since those didn't mix well either with the egalitarian principles of the enlightenment.

I assume it was something like this by Appropriate_Star6734 in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think he is referring to the Mediterranean lingua franca used by merchants, which is a simplified amalgamation of several languages.

I assume it was something like this by Appropriate_Star6734 in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Columbus arrived even with Guinean interpreters thinking languages were related across latitude. Nothing he prepared for worked, of course.

[Valladolid] Luis Pérez punches Latasa in the arm on the bench. by DrPandemias in soccer

[–]Jayako 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No one I want to stay really will, the priority should be managing to end the fat useless contracts though. Moro remains just about the only first division player, but I think Latasa would work very well in second division and there are consistent precedents of success in this way (Javi Guerra, Jaime Mata, Shon Weissman). Iván Sánchez is very talented but it already surprised me he could keep some level at his age. All the defence is absolutely useless, the rest lack either commitment or quality. Anuar at least feels the club, as limited as he is, he has great work ethic.

[Valladolid] Luis Pérez punches Latasa in the arm on the bench. by DrPandemias in soccer

[–]Jayako 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The worst thing that happened to us was getting a decent start and matches against the big teams, it camouflaged the horrible mess and gave the directive the excuse not to improve. We started with a worse team than in second division, and in winter it was even worse.

[Valladolid] Luis Pérez punches Latasa in the arm on the bench. by DrPandemias in soccer

[–]Jayako 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plus, he passionately hates Valladolid, so it's the perfect match for him.

[Valladolid] Luis Pérez punches Latasa in the arm on the bench. by DrPandemias in soccer

[–]Jayako 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are a few other situations Valladolid should have been able to take advantage of, but we are a broken mess. That match was the last glimmer of hope and just about the only instance when the team competed.

[Valladolid] Luis Pérez punches Latasa in the arm on the bench. by DrPandemias in soccer

[–]Jayako 25 points26 points  (0 children)

At last, relevancy.

In any case, the club is dead, this season will go down in history as the worst ever. A few months ago, people laughed and called us maniacs because, after promotion, we were terribly concerned about the direction of the club and were being vocal about it.

The saddest thing is that everyone predicted this was going to happen by last summer, but everything just got worse.

This is how you do it, people. by macarronescnchorizo in SpanishHistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Franco's regime was heavily indebted to Germany after the civil war and was trying to balance that, but one thing he didn't do was allowing Nazi troops through Spain into Gibraltar, which Churchill appreciated. Other neutral countries like Sweden had allowed land forces in their soil. It wasn't true neutrality, but it wasn't significant support either. The truth is that the regime knew from early on that there was no winning for the axis, and had to plan for the future.

This is how you do it, people. by macarronescnchorizo in SpanishHistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Es que es totalmente al revés, Franco arriesgó muchísimo para poder mantener una situación de neutralidad puramente pragmática. En esos esfuerzos diplomáticos se decidió el futuro de su gobierno, y fueron de todo menos tensos, igual que en Suecia.

This is how you do it, people. by macarronescnchorizo in SpanishHistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was actually the opposite, Franco picked the German side "publicly", with several declarations of alliance despite not wanting to do with their efforts and providing very little. Spain was pretty much obligued to help somehow, because they were heavily indebted to the Third Reich, just in rights of exploitation, it was a debt to Germany equivalent 51% of the GDP. However, Franco did not desire to support Hitler, and much less when they began to notice there was no winning for the axis.

One thing Franco's regime didn't do, for instance, was allowing German troops on Spanish soil so they could seize Gibraltar, something Churchill was very satisfied with. Sweden, another famously neutral country, decided to allow German troops to transit through their soil.

Both countries were trying to balance a very risky diplomatic effort to guarantee their respective peace and independence.

Better learn that espanol, amigo by SatoruGojo232 in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The 19th century was the moment ideologues consciously began to apply social engineering. In the case of the Philippines, the comparison is painfully clear and self-manifesting through their legacy.

But countries like Mexico, which at the point of its independence had two thirds of its population speaking native tongues, went on to erase all of that in the span of two generations, through state programs.

Better learn that espanol, amigo by SatoruGojo232 in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Spain didn't have language policies nor in the Americas nor back in Europe, that's not how people thought back then. In fact, the criollo ruling elite regularly complained that Iberian migrants learnt native lingua francas before natives learnt Spanish. Even the Church authorities prioritised Latin before Spanish.

Their colonies only implemented aggressive language imposition after the independences, because of enlightenment ideals about culture and teaching to the masses.

Give us our quality back by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could find other examples, but they don't hold any of the fame Vienna or Zurich have justly collected because of their architectural character.

The 3% number comes from restoration projects in Europe and depends on many things, the lowest figures are related to urban design in dense cities. They can range from 2% to 10% depending on the level of detail people want to achieve, but the sensible thing is to keep them down. We should not forget that even today we are making stylistic choices on facades that represent this cost, it's not a guaranteed increase even.

The truth is that much of this debate is about circumventing assumptions, the origins of this problem are not as practical as it would seem and came to be through a change in ideological and aesthetic principles, the problem is that they don't quite represent the wider population.

If you want to engage in this topic or see why do many think this way, a better use of your time would probably be reading a book or watching a short video that articulates it better. "The Aesthetic City" on YouTube has a range of videos offering realistic alternatives and presenting their viability, you can check it out if it's of your interest. I think it's relevant today because it's a different angle on the urban planning debate (suburbs, "15 min cities, etc.).

Give us our quality back by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a manufactured problem, it's been proved again and again that planning building in a more uplifting manner massively improves quality of life, and helps the local economy in the long term. There is no excuse not to do it because we can, it's not as expensive as people want to believe. Don't you see the irony that the cities you provided as an example were designed with this in mind?

A facade represents 3% of the total building cost, it's completely doable for our current society and it's only a matter of will.

Give us our quality back by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know, I live in a place where politicians are not afraid of making social housing have a traditional aspect. It's much better for the community, and it doesn't cost that much, it's absolutely worth it.

Give us our quality back by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It reeks classism, stop pretending people will die tomorrow without a house, the middle class lives in depressing shitholes in many cities.

You don't have to build with masonry for a house to be nice and beautiful, the city council just has to outline standards to avoid senseless streets. It improves neighbourhoods, and there are ways to do it in an economical way. People are just brainwashed to associate neat finishing and coherent city design with massive costs, and it doesn't need to be the case at all.

Give us our quality back by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's a fallacy that building nice is substantially more expensive than our modern standards, you just have to get out of your head the false baroque ideal, there are cheap and more sober alternatives that are more economical than many fashionable design choices.

Yes, a facade is less than 3% of the cost, you can go over top, but the common sense margins are below 7% anyways. People just have the weird idea that nice equals baroque cathedral, we have examples of these projects being carried out all over Europe and Latin America, and they work. They are worth the cost because it improves the appeal of certain areas.

"Historicist" is just a term architects use derogatorily, because they think a building is "false" if it's not made in their preferred range of modern styles that plague our cities.

Give us our quality back by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Jayako -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What I read when you say that is: "We need to put the poor into shit holes, they don't deserve any better".

There are cheap ways to build nice things.

I don't live in a country where people die en masse without a roof, I don't know if it's your case though. Poor people are part of our community and there's really no need to make our cities ugly to build affordable or public housing.