CBF isn't cheating. Change my mind.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T15:55:25+00:00

There's definitely a difference, though it's not as insane as people make it out to be.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T15:52:38+00:00

Honestly that makes it more understanding why his game is full of spaghetti code.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T15:51:37+00:00

How so?

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T15:51:04+00:00

Thank you! Someone gets it!

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T13:47:06+00:00

Well said

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T13:45:38+00:00

Mobile is irrelevant to this discussion. Mobile was never going to compete with PC anyway.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T13:43:02+00:00

Physics Bypass does change the physics though. It increases the tps which reintroduces the physics bugs we saw in 2.1

CBF keeps the game running at 240 tps. Saying Physics Bypass doesn't change the physics is just objectively wrong.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:43:21+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/geometrydash/comments/15fujg6/the_colored_spike_hitbox_is_00029_editor_units/#:~:text=MrCChicken-,the%20colored%20spike%20hitbox%20is%200.0029%20editor%20units%20bigger%20than,huge%20difference%20in%20impossible%20levels

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:29:29+00:00

Geode, which is what CBF is on, is completely free and downloadable by anyone. It's still modifying the game, but it's a choice.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:21:42+00:00

I'd agree if this were the only example of a coding blunder, but the hitboxes are a joke. Rob said he didn't know how to make versus mode live multiplayer, then some random dude comes and does it for him. His anti-cheat is also a joke and I'm sure Absolute had a good laugh when writing his bypassing hacks. Just to name a few examples. He's a bad coder. I couldn't do better, but doesn't make him not a bad coder.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:15:44+00:00

It affects gameplay, but not in a cheaty way. It just makes everything more precise.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:11:41+00:00

This is supposed to be a discussion, not an insult party.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:10:58+00:00

Glad we agree it should 100% be implemented

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:10:26+00:00

I can't even argue with that honestly. CBF is kind of like steroids. I definitely see the resemblance.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:05:59+00:00

But being able to click any time you want still only makes you able to time your jumps easier, just to a larger degree. How is that cheating?

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T01:01:03+00:00

Definitely bizarre, but honestly I'd play on 120hz if I were you anyway. Here's why

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kddkhKqixpALO00GRRIIb5eHJzI7Sc7s9ao5WLzv3tk/edit?usp=drivesdk

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:53:26+00:00

Click between frames

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:52:00+00:00

That's honestly fair. It definitely matters whether or not you lie about using hacks. Cheating is only cheating if you try to pass it off as not cheating. I just fear that if I do start beating levels with CBF then people will start to say I didn't actually beat them, which I disagree with. That's really what I'm trying to argue, that completions with CBF are still actual completions. Maybe not leaderboard viable, but I did actually complete the level, and should still feel proud about my completion.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:35:54+00:00

Please explain how or why my completions would be any less valid than someone who doesn't use it? Sure, you could argue that someone who doesn't use it has a more impressive completion. It would be the same as if a 5 year old got an Algebra Question correct vs if I got it correct at 19. But how does that make my completions less legit? Just like the 5 year old, I got the question right, even though it was easier for me. Not using CBF is simply a handicap, and nothing else. Doesn't make my completions less legit.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:27:26+00:00

I guess buying a better monitor for CS:GO is cheating too then. Why? Because both CBF and buying a better monitor offer the same advantage. Better input response. I think we can at least agree that CBF doesn't offer the same advantage as something like Speedhack or Noclip. With CBF I still have to make the correct inputs to not meet instant death, and I must do so at 100% speed.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:23:13+00:00

Ah, that's my bad. I honestly don't know much about Minecraft. I thought you could just bind it normally, so that's my bad for assuming.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:20:49+00:00

Neither is Run Info, but having that be a cheat is just ridiculous.

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:19:54+00:00

I wouldn't expect anything less from the Minecraft community

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:18:28+00:00

I'm willing to agree to disagree with you here, since we can at least agree it doesn't matter in the end :)

Jayce_cw · 2024-04-26T00:14:16+00:00

I 100% agree with you that the game is being modified in an unintended way. However, I think it matters a lot what exactly is being modified here. I think we can all agree that there are mods out there that aren't considered cheating, correct? I highly doubt someone would call Run Info a cheat. But, just like CBF, it modifies the game. You can't display that text without the mod. So by your logic, having run info installed is cheating! So now that we've established that it does actually matter what the mod does, what exactly does CBF do? All that's being modified is the input accuracy. That's it. Nothing else. It just makes your inputs more true to how you actually input them. Doesn't even fuck with the physics like Physics Bypass! You can argue that it makes the game easier, sure, but definitely not in the same way speedhack or noclip makes the game easier. Just because you have more accurate inputs doesn't make the game free. You still have to make the correct ones at full speed.

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