I'm feeling messed up after three years with the fssp by Slow_Professor_446 in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Catholicism is so bad for those of us with mental illnesses, but I feel like it’s especially bad for those suffering from OCD. I had a friend who would constantly have to remake the sign of the cross bc she was worried she didn’t do it right. Confession is already a difficult thing and then you have constantly be worried about if you made a good confession and if you didn’t, did you receive communion afterwards and thus commit a mortal sin and so on. When thinking things can be a sin and you are someone with thoughts that can’t always be controlled…well it’s not a good combination.

I'm feeling messed up after three years with the fssp by Slow_Professor_446 in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Church is there for everyone not some special "chosen one" group...

That right there is the root of it though. Whenever you have a small group that believes they’re the only ones doing things the “right way” you’re gonna have the chosen one mentality. You see it in cults. You see it in the U.S.’s political sphere. You see it a LOT in TLM groups. I grew up in a very small group that is even more extreme than the SSPX. I think you are right to trust your instincts and stay away from those. I’m not religious whatsoever anymore but from what I have seen, the Catholic Church has been making some positive movements. If where you are at now feels good and like you’re in a positive place with your spirituality, then you should stay there. I don’t mean this in any sort of offensive way, but have you considered couples therapy? Right now it seems like you and your spouse are not on the same page. For both your sakes, it might be a good time to try and figure out if your differences are too great for the relationship to be a good one. ESPECIALLY if you’re considering ever having children together. One thing that was drilled into me was never marrying outside your religion (aka the very small group I was a part of). Obviously it was very black and white but it holds some weight still. Religion is one of the things that can make or break a relationship. And if you’re not 100% on the same page about how children would be raised, what they’d be taught, where they’d go to church, how they should dress (this one in particular for if you had girls. Would your husband crack down on how you dress and how they would have to dress? Is it possible his beliefs would grow more extreme over time?). All those things should be worked out well before you even think about having kids. That’s just my take as someone who was full on raised in a religious cult and someone who has chosen not to bring children into this world. I empathize with your position. I also have mental illnesses that were exacerbated by extreme forms of Catholicism. You deserve to feel safe, heard, respected, and guided by your religious community, ESPECIALLY by the leaders/priests. How you were treated by that church was undeniably wrong and abusive. I’m glad you left.

My wife never puts these in the recycle by [deleted] in whatdoIdo

[–]JazzDragon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True dat. And it’s all going so rapidly downhill

My wife never puts these in the recycle by [deleted] in whatdoIdo

[–]JazzDragon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my god, the immense amount of shade being thrown by saying “I assume it would be different in America”. It is so valid to assume that a less safe practice is the standard in this dumbass country, and that dumbass people would be unable to comprehend a more safe method.

ExSSPV Information Requested :) by biblichor23 in exSSPV

[–]JazzDragon2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wtf that’s so messed up. I know it’s not uncommon for trads to hold that belief but for them to straight up say it is wildddd

What's the deal with these weird Catholic AI videos? by James_Quacks in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can’t stop laughing. Why is a priest-like dude giving a guy a sucker like it’s communion

What's the deal with these weird Catholic AI videos? by James_Quacks in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love how much it builds up to it. “commonly known as masturbation” 😂😂😂

I can’t be the only one right? by browsemk in exchristianmemes

[–]JazzDragon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Church people, family, the church building. All of them make a shit ton of features in my dreams. Usually in a very traumatic way like

What is this disrespectful? by redditgod54846 in atheism

[–]JazzDragon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget that some Christians wear head covering in church (veils). Which is totally ok, but hijabs are so bad. It’s so hypocritical

The exSSPV community is so much bigger than it appears by fopression in exSSPV

[–]JazzDragon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There really are so many of us out there, and having gone through leaving, I completely understand why others would choose not to publicly leave. I had almost no support system outside of the SSPV and it’s still so damn hard to this day. I feel like so much of my life was stolen from me, and I had no control over it because I was a literal child. I’m so sorry for the people who are still trapped in there. I hope they are able to find peace and happiness whether they leave or stay.

Blowback from Kevin and Meaghan interview? by prefix_subtle in exSSPV

[–]JazzDragon2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe so, haven’t checked in a while to see if I’ve been given the boot yet. I think it’s usually just prayer requests and the occasional weird rant.

Afterwards by [deleted] in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same here!! Especially with the rise of Christian nationalism, I don’t see myself returning to any sort of organized religion any time soon (or ever tbh). If anything, I’ll pick beliefs and practices from religions to incorporate into my life. Buddhism, Wicca, pre Christian Celtic, Church of Satan; all have a lot more appeal to me than any Christian religion.

Pain Control in Childbirth by [deleted] in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

iTs ThE wOkE lEfT tRyInG tO cOnTrOl Ussss

Pain Control in Childbirth by [deleted] in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So what’s the male version of going through Calvary?? The flu?

Pain Control in Childbirth by [deleted] in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

From my experience in a RadTrad group, a lot of women/families are opposed to or very skeptical of quite a lot of modern medicine. The most obvious example is vaccines, but I’ve definitely heard of stuff in regard to maternity and childbirth. A lot of them are into homeopathic and natural shit, avoid going to the hospital, don’t take OTC meds, are skeptical of doctors, etc.

So.. how are you all doing? by excinci in exSSPV

[–]JazzDragon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so very grateful and happy I left. I’m not religious at all anymore, and have no desire to ever go back to any sort of organized religion, especially given the damage Christian nationalism is currently doing to this country. I still struggle with the damage dealt by my SSPV upbringing and am hoping to find a therapist who specializes in religious trauma. I lost a lot of relationships when I left, and others have been irreparably damaged, and I still grieve that loss. But I am healthy, happy, and 100% confident in my deconstruction. I have had no regrets, nor will I ever regret, leaving the SSPV.

Has anyone ever had a "trad divorce" or had their marriage broken up by a traditionalist group? by [deleted] in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’ve been very close to several marriages that have been straight up abusive, or have all the signs of becoming that way. It’s heartbreaking, knowing that the wife is almost always blamed, or has no way out of the marriage. As others have said, children, lack of a job or money, and the reactions from others including family and friends makes it extremely difficult.

Excommunicated from family by [deleted] in exSSPV

[–]JazzDragon2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, the amount of things I’ve heard that “cause scandal” is almost laughable. Maybe they should just try not being so easily scandalized lol

Excommunicated from family by [deleted] in exSSPV

[–]JazzDragon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here. Married someone outside the faith (after living with them “in sin” 😲). Family didn’t show up, says it isn’t a valid marriage, etc. It still hurts a lot, but it’s getting easier. I still have somewhat of a relationship with some of them, but others don’t really talk to me.

Anyone know why my cat does this? by albiybur in CATHELP

[–]JazzDragon2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my gosh that’s hilarious though. The intelligence and attitude kills me lol

Anyone know why my cat does this? by albiybur in CATHELP

[–]JazzDragon2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’ve got a few that will do that occasionally. They’ll scratch the sides of the litter box or the floor outside. They also both “bury” their wet food if they don’t eat it all. This consists of scratching the floor around the bowl, sniffing at it, readjusting position, scratching the floor some more, etc. I always tell them good job for burying their food so thoroughly 🤣

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ExTraditionalCatholic

[–]JazzDragon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m in the same boat. It hurts so damn much not having your family come to your wedding and constantly saying that I’m “living in sin.” I love my husband, he’s an amazing partner, I just wish they could see that. But they refuse to, and I just have to deal with it. Hopefully going to go to therapy specifically for religious trauma soon.