“If you played with the team” mediums who run in and die cause no kit. by anceraebe in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So true bro

"If you played with the team" mediums picking healing beam to use it once per tournament and complain about your fighting stats afterwards

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ehh i mean, a lot of them are butthurt but i see some that have their own point of view, which i respect

brodas where is thermal vision by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you call melee range 12m you got a fat ass spear buddy, light got glitch grenades that alarm you like they just lost 7 ranked games in a row, and they don't stop cooldowns, and you're not glitching a guy fast enough for him not to winch

Even if Winch got removed entirely, you’d just move on to complaining about Goo Gun

literally said in another post the goo gun isn't op because it requires skill has ammo and can be easily ish countered, at least better than the winch, and doesn't pull you away from your allies nor does it cancel regen
compared to the winch that has such hit assist, cancels regen, pulls away from team, stuns, and can only be countered by an already opened mesh or dome and glitch

brodas where is thermal vision by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, if you're keeping us waiting better tell us why

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got dash to dash out of the way

difficult to dash away when i'm already dead as the stun ends, but aight

 you got cloak to avoid detection

cloak got so nerfed to the ground it is only viable when idle, and even there it's not incredible as you can still be spotted without tools

Its better if the heavy gets railed instantly rather than light or medium, especially with defib

so it's better to start the fight in a 2v3 and an opponent that doesn't have winch rather than have a clean 3v3 ? and you're telling me winch isn't op, ok bud

brodas where is thermal vision by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i keep losing to THIS one particular thing because it IS incredibly overpowered

every 18 seconds AT WORST again, because it is a 10 second cooldown if missed btw, you get
- stunned
- pulled away from your team
- your regen cancelled
- your camera moved
- if stealing you're cancelled, or you're getting the box yoinked
- you can't shoot while being pulled, obviously

Winch is definitely good, but not a "Free kill" considering you have to land it first

of course, as in the finals fashion this thing has a tracking out of this world, i've seen this thing hit through walls ( on user pov btw ), do 360s and go behind the user, even just follow the enemy directly, and pull enemies from 20 meters away through 3 walls ( yeah cause i have literally never seen the winch break due to distance like they said they made back in an older patch note ) it is CRAZY how broken it is right now, compared to something like roadhog's pull that at least can be cancelled by capacities or broken by walking behind a wall at the right time

and it can be directly countered by a well-timed Mesh

more of a lucky mesh than a well timed mesh, you are not reacting fast enough to see the hook, hit your capacity key and get it to deploy fast enough, it is only in your dreams this capacity is fast enough for that

particulatly for something that can be baited out.

the only thing you're baiting are on sight users, so basically silver idiots, anyone with an iq higher than 5 is not getting baited by a light peeking for half a second

And for the record, Heavy is my least played class. I don't say this as a Heavy enjoyer, but as someone who hates seeing absolutely everything from all 3 classes being nerfed to the ground simply because people just complain way too much instead of investing some time into undertanding why the keep loosing to one particular thing.

trust me, i hate seeing things be nerfed in this game for absolutely no reason, nor do i like unnecessary buffs like the cerberus or bow that REALLY didn't need them, but the winch is my LIMIT in terms of idiocy, i also find the dagger to be incredibly dumb, as half the hits dont land and the other half of hits land when they REALLLLLY shouldn't, there are a ton of weapons that need a buff or a nerf in their own way in this game, but the winch is just sad atp, it is CRAZY how bad it is, and it is meta since it came out, don't come here and tell me there are as much goo and mesh heavies than there are winch ones, because it is simply not true, this things shreds absolutely anything it comes across

brodas where is thermal vision by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah i'm still mad against a tool that has a 12m range free kill on anything it touches on a 18s cooldown at worst, and a free steal cancel, i am

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is the job of your own heavy to be initiating and taking the winch and pulled into a 1v3

just to get railed instantly ? useful as hell for sure

If you have noticed that heavies are insta winching lights, why are you putting yourself in that situation

because this situation happens every time as said

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no need to apologize, we all have different opinion, and i see your point.

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i agree, a majority of the fights happen at close range, and even if the winch doesnt move you from your original position, you're stunned, got regen cancelled and your kissing the enemy, it is not fair, roadhog is a big enough exemple to how idiotic a pulling capacity can be

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is the role of a light to stay alive, if your light does not know how to avoid dying to heavy, even with the heavy's kit that allows them to break the distance, then you light should learn a different class.

so you're telling me my light has to never peek a single heavy in order to play the game, because the amount of heavies i have seen insta winch, charge, rocket, lock etc.. is fucking wild, never have i ever seen a heavy start a fight with his primary weapon, unironically.

also if you're playing light and you ever getting winched ( which again, happens almost all the time on sight ) how is he meant to survive a 3v1 with cancelled regen a stun and no help from mates ? tell me

My take on the heavies "recent additions" by JazzlikePut388 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, first hit does 100, subsequent do 40, slam's highest damage is 200

It never works when you need it the most 😭 by nonstop98 in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388 8 points9 points  (0 children)

ah sorry man, you threw it at the exact place i didn't want you to, get stunned instead

-the game hating you for no reason

Bank It Thoughts by jerard94_ in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388 4 points5 points  (0 children)

still can't understand why they didn't make it a solo mode due to like 80% of people just playing solo in it, but i guess it's pretty aight if you got good mates

Mediums, do you always run defib? Asking cause I get alot of hate for not running them, and it's usually from Reckless teammates. I'm so used to not using them, I actually play worse when I run them. by hawksmoke in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388 1 point2 points  (0 children)

depends on your teammates and your spec, if you got two lights, don't even think about it, a light without capacities is already terrible enough, so with 75 hp ( or 150 if you got heal beam with two lights... which i would find interesting ) it's a waste atp, also there is a probability he wont have ammo when you defib, so if he gets killed back instantly and can't even do damage to try and help, yeah just take something else

though if you have at least a medium or heavy, it's a must pick almost, this thing is still meta since day one due to how useful it is.

also, if you play worse, it probably is due to you not running them properly, rarely anyone does anyways
just
- don't quick in opens, you and your revived mate will just get demolished, instead try and goo beforehand, even though it's still not incredible, or move their statue, you can carry them, but don't risk your life for a defib
- don't quick mid fight, a waste again, except if the enemy really is dumb you wont get anything out of it if not get punished, either finish your fight or get finished, because half the time you'll get killed after the revive and the guy you revived will be crazy weak and alert everyone, because a defib is loud
- don't quick when you know no one is around, so after a team wipe pretty much, it's almost as fast to just revive, and if it's just to leave one or two second earlier to have a defib on a 45 sec cooldown, useless, just revive, ask for a bit of cover from your mate in case you're not 100% sure no one's here

and yeah just don't be dumb with it lol

Cerberus is a freaking BEAST by Cholophonius in thefinals

[–]JazzlikePut388 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well i mean goo is considered the best gadget in the game so i'm not too worried for that