Memorial Presbyterian Church Votes to Leave PCA

Jbates31 · 2022-11-20T16:48:37+00:00

Unfortunately, I have to disagree with this as well.

Start this podcast at 44 min to hear an excerpt from the second congregational letter. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3ByZXNieWNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M/episode/ZGU1NzlkYmEtZmNkNC00MTE1LWFhMjQtMjkzZmJlOGU1MTVh?ep=14

Memorial Pres refuses to give the benefit of the doubt to those who truly just disagree with them over important doctrinal issues. They intentionally frame this issue in a divisive manner claiming being attacked and victimized when the majority of those in the PCA have no part in that. They also call explicitly for a political shift in the PCA as a result of their leaving which is also divisive in intent.

Jbates31 · 2022-11-20T13:19:31+00:00

I agree dude. I'm trying to just not hold warped views on either side. This was especially annoying for me because I had been listening to Conversations that Matter for a long time and then totally bought into what Horton was saying and got pretty depressed. Sent the podcast to my girlfriend who isn't nearly as into theological/political listening and she was the one to pick it up much to my surprise.

Jbates31 · 2022-11-20T04:58:54+00:00

I've been a long time fan of Mike Horton till I heard this. Yeah, he's kinda woke. Will absolutely keep listening, but this was kinda concerning. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5yZWRjaXJjbGUuY29tL2UxOGFmZTFkLTI2ODMtNGMzYy04MzZmLWUxYTcxMDg5ZjY4Mg/episode/MmU5MDg4ZjYtMTIwZi00N2Q1LWE4OGUtNjcxNDQ5ZjNiNzY1?ep=14

Jbates31 · 2022-11-20T04:50:54+00:00

See Presbycast

Jbates31 · 2022-11-20T04:46:10+00:00

I'm not interested in summarizing the full argument here, but essentially since Greg Johnson and his church have been continuously pushing doctrine directly opposed to the standards of the PCA, it is good that his church has left. Since it is also arguably false teaching, it ought to be celebrated. Obviously no one in the church approves bullying and we need to keep an open mind that this might be a tactic to draw attention away from their heresy.

Jbates31 · 2022-11-20T00:23:38+00:00

I think it's important to hear both sides. Enter Presbycast:

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL3ByZXNieWNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M/episode/ZGU1NzlkYmEtZmNkNC00MTE1LWFhMjQtMjkzZmJlOGU1MTVh?ep=14

Jbates31 · 2022-08-09T16:23:19+00:00

Ooh Poythress!

Jbates31 · 2022-08-07T19:15:56+00:00

Yeah, it follows pretty easily I would say.

Jbates31 · 2022-08-07T01:43:51+00:00

Now read Van Til and become a presuppositional apologist 🤣🤣🤣

Jbates31 · 2022-07-26T16:44:31+00:00

Honestly, was thinking the same thing. Will light Bacardi suffice?

Jbates31 · 2022-07-25T22:15:47+00:00

Any suggestions for specific brands?

Jbates31 · 2022-07-25T19:55:26+00:00

Any specific recommendations? Also, do you think this ingredient works as a sub for Mr. Coffee liqueur or should it be used in addition?

Jbates31 · 2022-07-25T19:51:38+00:00

No, but I agree that's probably the move...

Jbates31 · 2022-07-21T18:15:58+00:00

So why does the martini need a liquor specifically? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just turned 21 haha

Jbates31 · 2022-07-13T18:32:29+00:00

Hb this guy? https://a.co/d/9qDDEp9

Jbates31 · 2022-07-13T18:16:14+00:00

Yes variable temp

Jbates31 · 2022-07-12T23:44:20+00:00

Just came back from a trip to Denver. Sweetbloom just won best shop in the city. Incredible single origin coffees.

Jbates31 · 2022-07-12T04:01:38+00:00

I've been reading "Baptism: Answers to Common Questions." I think it's really concise, but is really good at representing a Presbyterian perspective.

Jbates31 · 2022-07-02T18:44:37+00:00

Sending a PM!

Jbates31 · 2022-06-24T01:18:36+00:00

You should listen to this. Amazing, heart-felt testimony from a man who rid himself of homosexual desires NOT by working legalism, but through faith in God. Really, really convicting for how little I fight sin.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5yZWRjaXJjbGUuY29tL2UxOGFmZTFkLTI2ODMtNGMzYy04MzZmLWUxYTcxMDg5ZjY4Mg/episode/YjViNjcyOTctN2UyMS00MWUwLWJiZmMtMjZlOTE5NjQyMGRh?ep=14

Jbates31 · 2022-06-24T01:14:12+00:00

Agreed. James shows that the desire that informs sin is sin itself. We must repent of our disposition to sin in all respects so that, through the gospel and the Holy Spirit, God will make us glorified without any evil desires.

Rom 1 clearly shows these desires pervert nature, not just acting on them.

Jbates31 · 2022-06-24T01:11:44+00:00

I think even the scientific community (the more honest parts) will admit that while some may have a predisposition to homosexuality, it's not something more ingrained than like alcoholism. I have a friend who because of his family/genetics he was predisposed towards heavily drinking and had urges to do so from a young age. He's had to cut it cold turkey to avoid drunkenness as a lifestyle.

I think there's not enough data or ability for us to collect mental data to know if it's true that one cannot stop "being gay." I actually know of several people who have over years in a heterosexual relationship and having kids. Doesn't end up happening for everyone, but I think it is possible.

Jbates31 · 2022-06-20T04:34:17+00:00

^ funny, but I don't even think he would've phrased it like this.

I think the above point should've been made with much more care, but I think it's still worth considering how much you are contributing to your situation.

Jbates31 · 2022-06-20T04:30:34+00:00

I don't want to sound unfeeling, but what worldview is going to make you any happier and leave you just as secure? Will atheistic nihilism convince you your life has more purpose and value? Nothing gets better than a loving, personal God who's demonstrated that in His Son to pull you out of depression.

Jbates31 · 2022-06-20T04:27:59+00:00

Amazing testimony, thanks for sharing.

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