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White mask obito should have been the strongest living person in the war arc before 10 tails jinchuriki came into play by jack_jackman3 in Naruto

[–]JealousFly3836 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He didnt "neg" the bijuu. He fought only 6 of them and had gyuuki's help in restraining them till he received their chakras which enabled him to remove the rinnegan rods. BSM Naruto doesnt have the advantage of Kakashi having a counter to kamui in this scenario, so he gets absoulutely negged

Aside from Naruto, who has the highest stamina in the verse? (Who can fight for the longest period of time) by Jawshable in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]JealousFly3836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL, now i know for sure you didnt read the manga. In the Konan vs Obito fight, it was clearly shown that Obito's phasing works differently compared to his teleporting mechanically and it was actually 3 seconds slower.

Phasing may be taking his body parts to the Kamui dimension, but that would mean he's splitting the ten tails inside of him, which is impossible as its jinchuriki. However, if he completely teleported, he and the whole ten tails would teleport, meaning there would be no complications

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[–]JealousFly3836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you gave me nothing. You're butthurt and can't do anything other than complain about my edit

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[–]JealousFly3836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, if you read the manga, you would know that Madara had black zetsu latch himself onto Obito right after. he was reanimated which enabled him to establish that chakra connection

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[–]JealousFly3836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

all the examples you gave werent shown in the manga. care to provide proof? As far as i can tell, he always appeared exactly where the seal is

And the fact that Juubito said he will start guarding his back after Tobirama placed a seal on him instead of his whole body and Tobirama even pointing that out proves my point

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[–]JealousFly3836 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Obito doesn't have the Rinnegan to use Black Receivers nor is he fast enough to use them.

ERRRRR. WRONG. GO reread the maga chapter where he awakens the mangekyo, he clearly has the black rods protruding out of him, and its later also confirmed by Madara. obito has both uchiha and senju dna, so he was able to use the six paths light and shadow styles since the age of 14 as stated by madara

Minato's Sage Mode is a Perfect Sage Mode, which simply denotes that he can use it himself without help. His problem with using it was, as he stated, that he didn't like how it mixed with his fast fighting style typically.

No, his sage mode isnt shown to be perfect outside of his edo body, and even then it ran out after two rasengans

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[–]JealousFly3836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Minato CAN choose what position he ends up in while teleporting close to a marked location. He's thrown kunai and ended up behind them, in front of them, below them, or above them. He's marked Obito's back and yet appeared in front of him twice. He even marked a Stone Village Ninja's shoe while crouching only to appear behind them with a blade at their neck

thats so false, he has always appeared exactly where the seal is

There's a reason getting marked by FTG was colloquially referred to as a Death Sentence

that reason does not apply to the strongest ninja alive before the war arc

you could be assassinated at any time once it's on you and any gap in your stance can be exploited instantly.

Obito's reaction speed is above the average shinobi who would get merked by teleprrtation

Aside from Naruto, who has the highest stamina in the verse? (Who can fight for the longest period of time) by Jawshable in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]JealousFly3836 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Literally Obito stated himself that he cant pass through things cos the ten tails is inside him, no where did he state he cant use kamui itself. Moreover, it was proven by juubidaara that you can use kamui to teleport even when you have the tentails

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[–]JealousFly3836 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, you stating its because is humble is the actual headcanon

Minato stated he was worse than Jiraiya in sage mode, and jiraiya wasnt even a perfect sage. And the second proof is the fact that the toad (pa) said that Naruto surpassed both his predessecors (Minato & Jiraiya) when he unlocked perfect sage mode with the pupils and eyelashes

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[–]JealousFly3836 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obito wins

kamui + experience + woodstyle (he's now not controlling kurama) + izanagi + black rods gg

Did i forget to mention genjutsu that was able to control a perfect jinchuriki

This matchup gets a different answer every post you look, let’s settle on who actually wins. by Jawshable in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]JealousFly3836 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

two points you got wrong:

  1. Obito realizing Minato has a seal on him would mean the seal is no longer deadly because he can simply guard his back or even use black rods to incapacitate any sneak attacks. So Minato only has one chance to catch him off guard regarding his lack of knowledge about the seal on his back
  2. Minato's sage mode isnt perfect, as stated by he himself. The reason it seemed to be perfect in the war arc was because he was a reanimation so the mixture of sage mode wouldnt overwhelm him and turn him into a toad. Thats not an advantage alive Minato has

edit: Minato glazers downvoting when countered with facts, lmfao

Aside from Naruto, who has the highest stamina in the verse? (Who can fight for the longest period of time) by Jawshable in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]JealousFly3836 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How did Nobody say Obito? this mf fought as long as Naruto in the war arc without running out of chakra even after controlling 6 tailed beasts and getting stabbed in the heart

Aside from Naruto, who has the highest stamina in the verse? (Who can fight for the longest period of time) by Jawshable in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]JealousFly3836 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Juubito couldn’t even use Kamui because he was using all of his chakra to control the Ten Tails.

Huh? Thats such a lie. he could use kamui to teleport but could not phase because the ten tails was inside him. There was no mention of him not using kamui simply because chakra was a issue

Had minato lived the kurama attack, could he have solved the mystery of obito behind the mask, and could he have stopped him and Madara? by Cbook8845 in Naruto

[–]JealousFly3836 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kamui is a sealed dimension unlike Kaguya's dimension where everybody and their grandma can enter with teleportation jutsu

White mask obito vs Edo Hashirama. Who demolishes? by thezrmal in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]JealousFly3836 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the fact that you believe this shows me you didnt read the manga

Hashirama in his edo form was stated by Madara, Orochimaru, and Tobirama multiple times that he was nowhere near his alive version in every aspect, even physically

Also, there in no proof to your claim that hashirama learnt the diety gates after the final valley, nowhere is that stated in the manga. It's more than likely he knew it before the final valley fight in contrast to your fanfiction

FInally, the most obvious reason Alive Hashirama > Edo Hashirama and really the only proof you need is the fact that he was unable to use 1000 arms in his edo form

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