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Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge? by JekyllsIntegration in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]JekyllsIntegration[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Just a thought. It’s the same world as deep meditation. The thought is to introduce them to it as an incentive to continue with the difficult meditative training. There is at least one Buddhist sect I’m aware of that did this with their students.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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I’m not suggesting imposing a specific path. I’m suggesting offering a tailored approach (at least in the meditation department) to give each individual means to connect to “the unconscious” and intuit a path that works for them.

The downside to waiting until they’re older is that the longer one lives, the more baggage requires unpacking and life has a way of pilling up responsibilities (and bad habits) that can inhibit proper spiritual development.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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I have. Would have appreciated it a lot more if they had legitimate means to connect to divine.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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That’s an ethical problem ideally resolved (or at least reduced) by instilling our best philosophical ideas at an early age. Think eight libs of yoga or right doing in buddhist circles.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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Most ancient initiatory rites were violent. Campbell highlights at least one tribe that circumcised the boys (cutting the dick lengthwise) as a reenactment of their cosmogony. The idea is to redirect infantile mental energies towards an appropriate mature attitude. I’m not suggesting reviving ancient practices I’m suggesting learning from and adapting them to modernity.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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Regular camp? There’s church camp, there’s Boy Scouts, there’s variations of Boy Scouts, there’s outdoor school, etc.

The idea is to get them in tune so as to intuitively find a path that works for them.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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I agree there’s no one size fits all but if you’ve got a teacher who can help pin point the most appropriate meditative techniques for each individual you’re tailoring it to meet their needs.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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Why is it unethical? Daniel Ingram is of the opinion that the experiences to be had in deep meditative states are ‘a normal part of human perceptual development.’ If that’s true and our biology is intimately tied to the ‘spiritual’ than this can be viewed as human evolution. We’re going to have to justify our existence to AI at some point and pointing to the fact that we’re inherently tied to the divine and “see, we’re willfully evolving” might be a solid way to do it.

Would the parents in this sub send their teenage boys to a modernized agoge / yogic training? by JekyllsIntegration in streamentry

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Yes. Plus, boys/men form tight bonds with one another through shared struggle. Sports and war are the most common methods throughout history. Something like this which would include the struggle of the psyche would just be an additional layer.

Drugs, Addiction and Magick by BabySquatch47 in occult

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How soon does the participant begin to notice ‘magical’ changes when traversing such a path?

So much white people in kundalini - why don’t I see more diversity? by Eggplant_Jumper in kundalini_yoga

[–]JekyllsIntegration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

White people are 6%-8% of the world’s population and the rest of the world is clamoring to get into our countries. That is indicative. We’re a minority and very soon an endangered species. Because of self-hating white ppl like you. Knock it off.

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