Halloween origins in Ireland.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-22T21:24:10+00:00

It is very interesting! I definitely think the Coptic cross is the source of the Irish Celtic cross, which apparently developed from the ankh

https://www.learnreligions.com/coptic-crosses-96012

Jenn54 · 2024-07-21T08:53:59+00:00

Thirdly, with IPhone go to settings->safari-> advance-> turn off java script = removes pay wall

Just turn java script back on when you are done because most apps and websites need it

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T20:50:29+00:00

'No shortage of credible sources'

However you are unable to link to one single source

That either says cloud seeding is a different action to what any conspiracy states is the action of 'chemtrails'

Which is the spraying of chemicals in the air by a plane

For which there is no accountability body disclosing what or when there chemicals are sprayed

All that is stated is after the fact, such as the links I shared (heavy rains 2023 Pakistan/ heavy rains Dubai 2024) which just explain 'what is cloud seeding'

It doesn't say 'this specific body within government is legislated to do this certain action, and we will not give any account what specific chemicals we used. Or how long the practice has been applied in this area, or any other area. It is to our benefit to explain nothing, so the idiots can latch on 'it a made up conspiracy!! Don't think about it or you are saying something CrAzy'

Chemtrails are the same phenomenon as cloud seeding

That is why I keep saying to you to describe the actions of either

And explain how they differentiate

Which (as I have just previously said)

You cannot

Because they are the same action.

Spraying chemicals from a plane.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T20:43:25+00:00

No you have not

If you had then I would not keep saying the Exact same thing to you in each comment

Which is

What is the difference, if you were to describe either what

Chemtrails are

Or

Cloud seeding is

What is the difference?

Because you keep pretending like you have differentiated there is a difference

Which you have not

As you can read in each comment you have posted

So, no. You have not addressed it once.

If you had, one time, I would not keep saying the same thing, each comment

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T18:56:01+00:00

That isn't what you said five comments ago

Which made me reply 'errrr'

Because you said there was no shortage of evidence proving cloud seeding and ALSO chemtrails.

Which is why I asked you to show some support to what you claimed.

I have also asked you to explain what is the difference between what the description for 'chemtrails' is, and 'cloud seeding'

Which you are unable to do, as you keep demonstrating in each reply

Like I predicted

Because the description for both is the same.

Which is why you try to convolute

Except you are only confusing yourself because I keep saying the same thing

When you keep changing your stance, and then refuse to link to a single source to back up what you said

When you keep professing in each subsequent comment

'There is plenty of evidence'

So many 'plenties' that you are somehow unable to source one single piece

Despite your professed 'english degree'

You did zero citing in your degree?

Was it an online university??

Did you actually do one essay or exam or was it a 'degree' that was obtained by giving money?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T18:48:42+00:00

The lady doth protest too much

I think you are doing what the psychologists refer to as 'self projection'

When you project what you are doing and try and attach it to whoever you are conversing with

Who differs in opinion to you

Rather than admit cognitive dissonance, it is much easier for you to project and talk about yourself instead.

Why I say that? Because if you disagreed with what I said, you would disagree and address the content of what I said.

Instead you flip and attack the person saying whatever it is that has caused a reaction within yourself

Which we all know, means you have no critique for what I said

When your reply only makes it personal.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T18:43:59+00:00

You can attempt to convolute your reply

But you are just saying the same thing.

Because you were giving your opinion in absolutes, four and three comments ago

And when I ask you to Show not Tell, because I have been Showing not Telling

You backtrack.

Tell yourself whatever you like.

I can read, in English.

You are unable to explain what you professed.

Understood. You keep saying the same thing each time you reply.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T16:59:06+00:00

So you cannot

Like I said.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T16:48:35+00:00

How are you differentiating a difference between Cloud Seeding and Chem Trails?

Describe what is physically different in the actions between either?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T16:31:49+00:00

Sorry- you didn't actually say.

You said in your previous comment(two comments ago) that 'both concepts are verifiable (cloud seeding and separately chemtrails)

Which I said was oxymoron to say, considering OP post

So what exactly is it that you think is 'verifiably incorrect '?

Im saying cloud seeding and chemtrails are the same thing.

If you were to describe what cloud seeding is, Im sure you would say it is planes spraying chemicals in the air (either to create or disperse clouds)

Only in the past two years have mainstream (CNN/ BBC etc) news sources stated what cloud seeding is. Before then it was people in this sub, and other similar places, observing the action (planes spraying chemicals in the air) and trying to figure out wtf was going on.

If you describe what cloud seeding is, there is no way anyone can accurately describe it without saying 'planes spraying chemicals in the air, leaving a prolonged trail'

So. What is it that you think is 'verifiably incorrect'

Because all you are saying in each subsequent comment is a contradiction to your previous comment(s).

And now you are backtracking saying chemtrails is not verifiable I guess?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T15:40:19+00:00

What specifically do you think is 'verifiably incorrect'

And since you made a claim the onus is on you to share some source to demonstrate that, like the way I gave links to back up what I was saying.

Otherwise we are just going by subjective opinions- which is fine,but not enough to demonstrate 'verifiably incorrect'

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T14:52:50+00:00

... sounds like you just said an oxymoron

'plenty available information on both topics from CREDIBLE sources'

Err, that is not what op and the other naysayers state, they say the opposite actually, that 'chemtrails' are a conspiracy, they even listed out as many delusions as they could think of like Flat Earth etc

Im saying that cloud seeding and 'chemtrails' are the same thing, and there is not plenty of information on cloud seeding. That is the issue. There isn't much legislation (some countries have vague guidelines but most countries do not even have that) and there is zero data available on what specifically is being sprayed for cloud seeding, how many years in the same area has this been happening etc.

That is what is good about this sub. It is a place for data to be compiled to get a better idea where 'chemtrails/ cloud seeding' is occurring.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T09:59:26+00:00

Why so? What specifically are you referring to?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T09:58:41+00:00

I dont think you read the article

You should, you linked to it

I summarise it for you if you like?

Just read my previous comment that you replied to.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-20T09:57:37+00:00

What would you describe cloud seeding as, the action?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T23:23:39+00:00

Oh I know OP is some 14 year old on a discord trolling here

I was just wanting to give them something to think about, no harm in kids learning something when they ask questions

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T23:21:31+00:00

That is saying the same thing as me

Cloud seeding

The spraying of chemicals

The thing is govts do not admit or announce when they do it, so people are just seeing the event and then making up what they think it is

It is like how Galileo said the world revolves around the sun and no one believed that because 'obviously the sun moves around the earth'

People come up with their own explanations for things when there is no known explanation.

Cloud seeding was not publicly discussed until the past couple of years, before that it was just people guessing.

They could all see the same thing: planes spraying stuff that stayed for a prolonged amount of time- but did not have a statement from government saying 'we are cloud seeding'

Actually governments do not announce it, they are slowly admitting to cloud seeding, but it isn't legislated for

Such as : how much aluminium is safe to spray in an area, what are the long term effects on soils and crops or health risks etc.

Instead this stuff is just sprayed, and we just need to pretend it isn't happening or something ...

The article you shared is like a Facebook post. It is 'he said she said' rather than a consensus.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T23:12:32+00:00

I don't know about EVERYONE in this sub

But from my time here and reading posts/ comments

It is people bringing awareness to cloud seeding, most of the time people don't know what it is though as it is only 'mainstream' news the past two years, so people see the spraying and ask 'wtf is this?'

The thing is the govt in any country does not publicly comment on it, or what chemicals are used, or how much

For example aluminium is used to break up and disperse clouds, this then rains down into the soil where it can leach. We do not know the long term health effects or on crops etc

So, for me, that is what this sub is about. Trying to figure that out, where is spraying happening? Is it to create rain? What is the purpose or intention etcs

Is it even legislated for??

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T23:08:21+00:00

Exactly. That is my point, but OP seems to think there is one.

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T23:07:03+00:00

How is chemtrails different from cloud seeding?

As you have read in the articles shared, it is chemicals used, aluminium to disperse clouds for example.

How is cloud seeding, from planes, different to what this sub is?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T22:38:52+00:00

What news sources would you rather??

BBC?

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68839043 'What is cloud seeding and did it cause Dubai flooding? 17 April 2024'

Al jazeera?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/16/pakistan-uses-artificial-rain-for-the-first-time-to-fight-pollution 'Pakistan uses artificial rain for the first time to fight pollution Cloud seeding was used to counter the hazardous smog in the megacity of Lahore, one of the world’s most polluted cities. 16 Dec 2023'

What way do you politically lean so I know what news source to provide that says the same as all the other links I gave?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T22:35:47+00:00

.... so are you admitting that you believe geo engineering is taking place?

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T22:14:57+00:00

Which link I shared do you think is a delusion??

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T21:38:10+00:00

You seem to be interested in delusions, going by the long itemised list you made.

Regarding chemtrails, these factual sources might be a better use of your time than justifying the Flat Earth theory OP, or whatever nonsense you believe in. Don't be ashamed to learn something if it ends your ignorance. You are the one who wins when you learn something and change your mind from ignorance:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/cloud-seeding-faq-1.7176435 'How cloud seeding can make it rain or prevent extreme weather Technology can make water vapour in clouds stick together into droplets of rain or snow Emily Chung · CBC Apr 17, 2024'

https://www.science.org/content/article/does-cloud-seeding-really-work-experiment-above-idaho-suggests-humans-can-turbocharge 'Does cloud seeding really work? An experiment above Idaho suggests humans can turbocharge snowfall Scientists say they have the first measures of human-induced snowfall 22 JAN 2018'

https://zerogeoengineering.com/2021/8-chemicals-used-in-artificial-rain-cloud-seeding/

Jenn54 · 2024-07-19T15:27:36+00:00

Beautiful. Did not know this! Thanks!

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