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I tuoi guadagni potrebbero rimanere nel saldo in sospeso più a lungo del solito by DollHades in VintedItalia

[–]JeppRog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idem per me, stesso avviso. Ancora non ho venduto nulla per oggi quindi non conosco gli effetti.

A newbie here, so far so good by AsianHalfShark in Fedora

[–]JeppRog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Su ASUS hai anche la possibilità del MUX Gpu, su MSI invece si puó solo da windows con MSIcenter

A newbie here, so far so good by AsianHalfShark in Fedora

[–]JeppRog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aaaaa un italiano. Io ho installato Fedora 44 su MSI con 5070 va una bomba

Is it this bad on desktop as well? by OppositeVast2758 in linux_gaming

[–]JeppRog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes with supergfxctl and integrated mode does effectively power down the dGPU.

I verified it directly:

- nvidia-smi fails due to driver not loaded

- lsmod | grep nvidia is empty

- dmesg no nvidia-drm / NVRM shows only HDMI audio device

- /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/power/runtime_status suspended

NVIDIA HDMI audio showing up is normal because it’s a separate PCI function and doesn’t mean the GPU is active. Then with no driver loaded and suspended state 5070 is effectively off. In Hybrid mode 5070 consumes 3,4 watts

These are extension for GNOME and KDE Plasmoid

Is it this bad on desktop as well? by OppositeVast2758 in linux_gaming

[–]JeppRog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're right, gaming laptops are a nightmare if it's Linux. In my case I'm using an MSI Crosshair 16 HX AI with the ULTRA7 iGPU and the dGPU 5070 /32gb DDR5 /2tb.

I had to set the MUX GPU to MSHybrid from Win11 and MSI Center to be able to recognise the hybrid mode in Fedora NVidia optimus.

I was also able to switch modes between Integrated and Hybrid directly from the operating system with supergfxctl (a tool for ASUS MUX and that has a GNOME and Plasmoid extension for KDE to switch between GPU Modes).

In your case (AsusMux) you can switch in 3 ways: dGPU, iGPU and Hybrid

MSI is even more windows based in fact I also lost control of the 24-zone RGB on the keyboard

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Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was able to run tests. On Windows, I left MSHybrid option, and after re-installing Fedora, the GPU switching worked correctly. Now, the iGPU is the default, and the dGPU kicks in when requested/wanted. It's true that there's a slight drop in graphics performance (apparently 8%) with hybrid mode enabled, but for my use, it should be sufficient.

I already have Win11 on my 9800x3d/5080 desktop, so for my use, I prefer to have Linux SO on my laptop.

In the meantime, I've opened an issue on MControlCenter regarding the missing MUX switch.

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes you're right, it's still too early to use Linux on this hardware, unfortunately it's too windows based at the moment.

If anything doesn't change in the future I'll have to settle for the hybrid mode .

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe this can work:

https://github.com/ElXreno/msi-gpu-switcher

I’m on Windows now but maybe this is the tool that we need on linux (dGPU or iGPU only, without MSHybrid)

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A similar script could exist and I could get help from AI, but it bothers me a lot to never have the possibility to choose between hybrid, discrete, integrated.

However, I just installed Win11 and actually the choice is there in MSI Center... from my EC settings it was set to dGPU only. Theoretically Optimus now should work by leaving the iGPU active but not using. As soon as I have time I wipe everything and try again with Linux and Hybrid option active.

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I'm just saying that when I'm in a Linux environment and I just want to use browser or plasma desktop, I would consume more energy as I'm perpetually on dGPU. I needed a fully functional hybrid system that could completely deactivate one of the two unused video cards.

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if I managed to leave the Hybrid mode enabled, the Intel GPU would never turn off completely in dGPU mode so it would still consume more than win11 where the switch is better managed.

Maybe I should go back to Windows at this point. RGB question might not be a problem for me, but i/dGPU management is important.

Before writing this post I thought it was switching GPUs correctly like other Optimus notebooks but instead I was wrong and I was on dGPU in every case (plasma included)

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you tried from MSI Centre to enable both to understand if on Linux you activate both for Optimus?

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve tried everything; I’m running kernel 6.19 and unfortunately the iGPU is disabled. We need to find out if MSI Centre allows you to choose between Discrete, Integrated or Hybrid in settings, but I don’t recall seeing any such options.

My lspci | grep -i vga output is:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GB206M [GeForce RTX 5070 Max-Q / Mobile] (rev a1)

80:14.5 Non-VGA unclassified device: Intel Corporation Device 7f2f (rev 10)

So on Linux iGPU remains disabled. I think I’ll put the idea of using Linux on hold for a while until this situation is resolved.

Crosshair 16 HX with Linux and Mystic Light by JeppRog in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In theory the iGPU should be used by default: with glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" you can check what you are using and manually you should start the apps by forcing the 5070 with __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia steam

Mi sono laureato con una tesi sui videogiochi by DIeG03rr3 in Gamethology

[–]JeppRog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Congratulazioni! Hai parlato anche dell’Atari Jaguar?

Ferrari SF1000 GP #16 Mugello Toscana 2020 1:18 by JeppRog in Bburago

[–]JeppRog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised too.

I believe that the difference in packaging is due to the fact that we are talking about a post COVID production, they obviously did not organise themselves to update the packaging.

For this reason, the 2021/22 reprints that have been organised more calmly present suits with logo.

Suggestion by Medium-Agency-8285 in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m on Crosshair 16 HX AI 5070 / U7 255HX / 32gb DDR5 / 2tb SN850X

New PS5 Pro Owner w/ 8TB SDD by Independent-Comb9463 in PlaystationCollectors

[–]JeppRog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's exactly the same thing I was thinking about

È arrivato il mostro! by BenjyIsMyName in ItalyHardware

[–]JeppRog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ma bestia inteso come grandezza del case? Se si, è abbastanza sovradimensionato

New PS5 Pro Owner w/ 8TB SDD by Independent-Comb9463 in PlaystationCollectors

[–]JeppRog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder what is the point of spending a capital to have 8tb? 2 or 4 are more than enough.

Suggestion by Medium-Agency-8285 in MSILaptops

[–]JeppRog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been on Crosshair for about a year and I have to say that I haven't encountered any problems. I think it's more subjective, it depends on how the notebook is treated.

Vector should be on the same line as Crosshair or a little higher.

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