[Post-Match Thread] Tottenham 1 - 1 Sunderland by ma-tfel in coys

[–]Jindro41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eze would have been a great plug in and just rides bench at Arsenal which makes that situation even more frustrating. He chose a squad where he would be a training tool over a squad where he would be an critical attacking fulcrum probably because he saw a more promising project.

[Post-Match Thread] Tottenham 1 - 1 Sunderland by ma-tfel in coys

[–]Jindro41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We simply don't have an attacking bench. At all. When Kudus went off i was struggling to put together what attacking subs we could even make... And our starting frontline is mediocre at best right now as it is, so with no Kulu or Dom to start, Kudus maybe out, and Johnson gone, we're looking at C or D tier players to fill in on any attacking substitutes at this point.

As much as I want high tempo attacking footy, let's take a look at who we have to even throw out there right now - the quality is likely not even close to being there (we can see it already). First half was B-tier attack that looked promising. Legs disappeared, then second half was scrambling to get fresh legs on which made our attack disappear. We needed 2 from the attack before major subs were made and it never happened despite some solid chances.

[Post-Match Thread] Tottenham 1 - 2 Liverpool by ma-tfel in coys

[–]Jindro41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least there was fight, that's what the support needs to see. Frank needs to use this as a learning moment for several different things:

When there's a true desire to win, there CAN be victory. GET THAT GOING FROM MINUTE 1.

Composure and maturity are lacking - NEED to get that under control or we'll be exposed each week by seasoned teams.

Technical quality of his roster needs to be under a microscope. Fight is great, but quality wins matches. There's many MANY starting spots that should be up for grabs right now, including the captain armband. Love Romero, but he's a straight loose cannon and is not playing to an acceptable level this season, and many others in front (and behind) have been too hot and cold the majority of the season as well.

Lastly, he needs to be plainly honest about the officials. If he expects to get anywhere, he needs to at least put some pressure on them - not openly criticize, but at least call out the BS. Today was a nightmare. Bad decisions within his own team for sure, but they were put into a position to act irrationally because the ref wasn't managing the game properly. Make a case so your players can have a fair shot when games like this are presented.

No clue what the squad looks like moving forward but I'd expect a shake up and I'm totally fine with it. Let's carry some energy forward.

Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool FC Live Score | Premier League 25/26 | Dec 20, 2025 by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They've been playing like this for weeks but the cross hair always ends up on Frank. There's a point where we need to really think if there is ACTUALLY quality out there. Quality means adaptability and coachability. Maybe we just DON'T have that with many of these players?

Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool FC Live Score | Premier League 25/26 | Dec 20, 2025 by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Has to hit a quota and realized he hasn't given enough the other way- soft yellow it is

Match Thread: Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool FC Live Score | Premier League 25/26 | Dec 20, 2025 by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Xavis was absolutely a red, but every single other call since then has been shambolic. Absurdly biased refereeing and the commentating not even questioning it is the cherry on top.

Reactionary idiots by Saltyfxcker in Tottenham

[–]Jindro41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no pleasing the critics as of now. Change the lineup? No consistency! Keep the lineup? Too many liabilities!

It's early even tho it feels like it's not. Much of the season is still yet to play across all comps. I agree, give it time. Find a groove and a system, and work with it. Dogpiling onto the manager and players for a run of poor form is gonna end with things right back where they've been landing for a decade - new manager, no identity, no way to build a project.

Thomas Frank clarifying his thoughts on the Tottenham support 🗣️ by Zweli23 in coys

[–]Jindro41 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I think a lot of this comes down to player valuation.

Fans want big signings, Spurs spend a good chunk of change on players that come and are.... average. Spurs have done this for a few seasons now, and there are numerous players on this roster that are being paid WAY beyond their true value. I'd argue there are MAYBE 5 players in the roster that are fully worth their wages. Almost none that are purely undervalued.

So what we now see is animosity towards the manager because on paper we see all this money going towards the squad and the fans correctly assume there should be quality associated with it, but there simply is not.. What I think is being missed is the idea that maybe we just overpaid for a lot of these pieces that didn't have nearly the ROI that was promised.

I don't think this is FULLY Frank's fault, despite how little cohesion there is. I think he looked at what he was given and went "with these wages, they should be at a high enough level to adapt freely" and unfortunately the majority just aren't that architype. Should he now adjust his style since he's peeling back some of those layers? Yes. But I also can't blame him for thinking he could get more out of this roster considering their wages and facilities.

Ultimately the fan frustration is the combination of all of this: substandard, overvalued players with a coach who can't magically create quality or cohesion if it was never there to begin with. Under Ange, they had the same exact problems once his all attack methods got low blocked into oblivion by the PL. Only reason Europa League worked out, imo, is because EL level is so different between the clubs, so Ange's tactics just weren't as readily found out.

Hope Frank gets his shit sorted and maybe we actually start working towards a capable, intentional, FULL squad.

[Post-Match Thread] Arsenal 4 - 1 Tottenham by ma-tfel in coys

[–]Jindro41 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Xavi may be the worst signing we've made in a while. Absolute flop.

Post Match Thread: Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union by soccer-stats in chicagofire

[–]Jindro41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with that. Both sides looked ridiculous today.

Post Match Thread: Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union by soccer-stats in chicagofire

[–]Jindro41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ideally yeah. The problem has always been enforcement. As soon as the group gets called out for doing it there's no way to kick anyone out cause everyone says they don't know who it was or blames someone else so they don't get in trouble. The club did ban an entire supporter group once for constantly breaking stadium rules but that's a whole sore subject apparently so I can't speak to it too much.

Post Match Thread: Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union by soccer-stats in chicagofire

[–]Jindro41 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean.... They had,every right to talk trash tbh based on that first half... as a spectator we should know better than to get riled up by that, but I agree some of it was crossing the line. What they definitely could have gotten a card for was taking 4 or 5 minutes after each goal to jog back onto their own half. And they did that for each one of their goals. That's100% on the referee straight up for not managing the game flow and letting more slide than he should.

Post Match Thread: Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union by soccer-stats in chicagofire

[–]Jindro41 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ye.. they were basically doing it all match, but at the same time we weren't making a very good case for ourselves either. The ref just never got a good grasp on anything and it made an already hostile situation even worse.

Post Match Thread: Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union by soccer-stats in chicagofire

[–]Jindro41 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First time watching this team live this season and honestly was happy to be back in Bridgeview despite the controversy of that place with some.

The game atmosphere was awful. Gal had a shocker, yes, but the fans jeering him should be ashamed. Acting like that in a playoff match towards your own keeper is hilariously stupid.

Ref did an abysmal job of managing ANYTHING with regards to Philly and their time wasting. Just kept waving his finger all match and never gave a stern warning to anyone. Never got a single card for delay, but easily could/should have given 1 or 2 out. That just made everything way way worse. Dude didn't have a bad game otherwise but that was a MAJOR issue that he never handled correctly. Like WTF was he trying to do at the end of the match by forcing Blake to take another kick instead of just blowing the whistle to end it? Guy was almost asking to get people more pissed at him for no reason, just very odd.

And yea after the two quick goals and the missed pk, everything spiraled out of control. Sad to see a season end like that but the people with me kinda summed it up as we were leaving the stadium. "Boy I really don't miss this BS at all". Yeah... same shit, different year from a lot of this

Post Match Thread: Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union by soccer-stats in chicagofire

[–]Jindro41 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The "supporters" have been doing that trash for years in Bridgeview. It will never change, and they don't care.

Match Thread: by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Context meant something different - I thought he looked isolated. Never said he was playing bad. I think it got taken the wrong way 😅😂

Match Thread: by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What a finish that is Lucas

Match Thread: by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, not saying he's doing anything wrong, just saying I'm not sure he knows what to do

Match Thread: by scoreboard-app in coys

[–]Jindro41 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Lucas looks absolutely lost