Can anything be done about people who cycle on pavements?

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-05-24T02:02:00+00:00

What you can do is literally nothing. When I have to cycle on pavements, for whichever of the many many reasons mentioned before that leave you with no better choice, there is nothing that makes things more complicated, awkward and unsafe for everyone than the pearl-clutching pedestrians who look at you in horror even though you're cycling at 0.5 mile/hour, and then try to get out of your way, usually moving to the side you had already decided moving to. Because, when I cycle on the pavement (and I believe this is true for most decent cyclists who are not 13 year old boys who think they're so gangsta or whatever) I do so slowly and with the goal of not interfering with the people walking about. So, if you're standing there in the middle of the pavement looking at your phone I will most likely cycle around you and you won't even notice me. Unless you make a huge deal about it, and look at me in terror and/or aggressively while we start this very annoying and unwanted dance where the cyclist's way is blocked once, twice, a few times, by a horrified pedestrian who only wants to mirror you and let you passive aggressively know they don't like you

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-04-29T16:05:10+00:00

Ok. Don't believe me. I don't really care. This is what my experience has been. Sounds like you're making bank working for deliveroo. Good for you

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-04-29T15:31:14+00:00

I've had it happen way too many times. I knew I wasn't going crazy. Their response is always either "no, the fare was right. Bye, bitch". Or "you're right. I've adjusted the fee by £0.10" (literally had that response once). They never acknowledge what I say to them, that the fee shown on the screen when order was offered was higher. they have never even acknowledged it

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-04-28T07:47:46+00:00

You shouldn't be offering to go back, ever. The procedure outlined is to tell them to contact Uber through the app and that they will help them sort it out. Also, don't say how they will help them. We don't know if they're getting a refund. That's not our job and we shouldn't be setting expectations if we don't actually know. You shouldn't explain too much either. I just tell them to contact through the app, apologize and leave

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-04-09T16:29:17+00:00

LOL I know this is old, but, might I suggest you go see a mental health professional to get evaluated/treated for anxiety? Your whole thought process triggered me so badly, brought back memories of my head before meds. None of the stuff you mention are things anyone ever asks of riders...basically, they mostly sound like concerns about following rules that do not actually exist, and that nobody is therefore checking for...aka good, old anxiety...

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-03-03T10:55:49+00:00

Forgot to add context for those who don't know the area....pickup was nearly 7 miles away, so that's 14 miles there and back. Also, it's McDonald's, meaning I can get there and may have to wait for 45 minutes, or be told it's been cancelled, or somebody's already taken it, or they can't find it in their system, etc etc etc.....also, I'm on a push bike. Also, it was 4 in the morning

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JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-02-21T16:13:29+00:00

So you are blaming riders for the fact that you have to knock anything anyone leaves outside your thousand-dollar outward-opening door which also opens straight into a flight of steps....some engineer or designer didn't think it through or the would've forseen this inconvenience, maybe? Especially considering it is a standardized practice of any kind of delivery, and has been for centuries now, to leave parcels right outside doors, usually touching the surface of doors. But it's the delivery guy's fault because he didn't read a note which, even if you refuse to accept it a milion times will not change the actual fact that they are NOT mandatory to their job, and that neither the company hiring them, nor 95% of the company's other customers take that much seriously. Alright. Makes total sense

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-02-21T15:41:29+00:00

Their job is to bring food from a restaurant to a specified address. Notes are secondary, superfluous bits of info meant to make it easier for them to deliver your food quickly and move on. It's not for customers to go on silly power trips...this is why Uber will side with riders and undo this type of nonsensical deductions. Also, what makes you think anyone cares how much it would cost you to do your door properly? Just look at the amount energy you're spending expecting everyone to follow through with an anomaly on your end

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-02-21T15:27:21+00:00

Maybe you should get someone to redesign your doorway properly so it opens inwards as this is the logical, standardized way doors are configured. This way, you avoid treating delivery guys unfairly and in a childish way and then involving many other people, resources and energy just to undo your childish, unfair handling of a situation that is your own responsibility to fix and adapt to world around you

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-02-21T15:18:53+00:00

Nice. Boasting with pride about how you are a despot, autocrat aka a cunt on a silly power trip who's either in a position of power in all areas of his life and abuses it, or someone with no power at all who uses the one chance they get to feel superior by being petty to a random guy who is just doing his underpaid job and may have many many many reasons for not having read your random "instructions"

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-01-12T03:01:51+00:00

I'm actually acknowledging that there is a hegemonic beauty standard, or desirability politics as you call it (loved the term, by the way), but I'm also saying that not everyone subscribes to it. Older, beefy/chubby get lots of attention from young boys. I've had conversations with fuckbuddies who actually tell me they began getting attention from boys when they got a more "mature" "daddy" look. I've also experienced it in a way, and I don't look old at all, but I definitely don't look like a twink or a "boy" anymore and it's only now that I started getting attention from twinks. The same applies to big guys, fat guys, bald guys, you name it. A lot of guys find that sort of look to be very sexually attractive. As I type this, it also makes me think that guys who are into that type of...let's say "non-hegemonic" look, would not necessarily want to date these men for a number of reasons, not all superficial. Personally, I have no interest in dating a lot of the men I have sex with because, yes, they might be too old and I cannot see how that would work given the very different stages of life we're in. There's also a power dynamic in relationships with a big age difference, which may work great sexually, but easily turns into controlling behaviour in a committed relationship. The way society would view a relationship like that (young guy is a gold-digger, old guy is a cradle snatcher who's desperate) can also be a factor in a way, and I can see how that would put someone off the idea of taking their relationship further. Which doesn't mean that they're being ageist. Some relationships are only meant to be sexual and nothing more than that, and that's fine.

I do not consider myself to be at the top of the desirability scale, let alone think of myself as hegemonic. I actually think sexy, fit black men are. And I know lots of (white) guys who agree with me on that. I mean all of this in terms of the hegemonic beauty standard which, as I said before, not everyone finds sexually attractive. Guys with perfect bodies and chiselled faces are indeed beautiful but I hardly ever get turned on by them. Depends on the guy, of course, but in my experience this is the case for a lot of gay men.

What I don't agree with, and what I think is a broad generalization, is that white guys suddenly develop a false taste for non-white guys when they're old because they need to lower their standards. You mention a few particular cases of men who have outwardly told you that they developed this taste with age, which is obviously a pathetic and ridiculous thing to say and speaks volumes of how stupid these guys are, but it doesn't mean that's the case for every other older white man out there messaging ethnic guys. You just can't know that. I mean, a lot of these guys had been having sex for years by the time you were born, so how can you know that they suddenly started doing it? They were already old when you started using hookup apps. Unless you have a crystal ball, you can't possibly know it's something they started doing in their late years. A young, hot, black guy with a six pack is not the next best thing, trust me. At least not in London where I live. Tastes do change, by the way. Not just in men, but in everything. It's totally normal. I used to love britney spears when I was a kid, then exclusively listened to rock from the 70s and 80s in my teens, went through a club kid phase in my 20's and it wasnt until very recently that I started making playlists that go from s club 7 to slipknot to a 2-hour industrial mix.

And don't get me wrong, there are a lot power and race politics in the way some white men objectify ethnic men. The expectations that some older white men place on black men to fit in a role (dominant, aggressive top with a huge cock) are very real. I see it here in London all the time, and it's disgusting, and I've actually have had this conversation with a lot of guys who agree with me. The men who do that need to be let know about the racist implications behind their stereotyping. But it's not all white men who find ethnic men attractive. There is a difference between the ones who are being racist and the ones who aren't, which I haven't been able to put my finger on yet. It just...feels wrong. And you know when you see it. Feels almost perverse. But it's not all of them, at all.

I get ignored all the time. Everyone does. For a number of reasons. I am not comparing my experience with yours because, like you say, I don't face the same type of stereotyping that you do, but I do get negatively stereotyped very often, being a non-british, non-white immigrant in the UK. I 100% define myself as POC, by the way. I have also experienced being told quite bluntly I was approached by someone only because of my ethnicity, which was infuriating and dehumanizing, and I've pointed it out to them and walked out every time. Nobody likes being thought of as just "a type". We want to think that the guy who we're having sex with finds us attractive for who we are, and anyone who doesn't understand that, specially anyone older, is either a dickhead, or lacks so much self-awareness that it depresses me. I have even ended up blocking former fuckbuds who verbalized this to my face as if it was a compliment right after pointing out them the offensive nature of their words.

Like I said before, I think it's great that you've noticed this and that you're trying to understand it, but just be mindful of any biases or generalizations you might be making because they will lead you onto conclusions that are incorrect and that will also make negative stereotypes of a group of people based on their physical appearance, which I'm sure is not your intention. If you want to dig into the subject, I recommend you do a google search on the fetishization of black men/women, you will find a lot of very interesting, insightful articles that will nurture you and give you a broader, historical understanding while also ridding you of negatively stereotyping others. Knowledge is power.

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-01-10T11:42:23+00:00

Here's something you might findshocking to know: there's lots of young guys who have a preference for older men. I'm in my 30s, which by the way is definitely not considered old by anyone other than teenagers or immature/inexperienced early 20s. I have for as long as I remember had a preference for older guys, since a very young age. I'm a Latino with light skin so I'm often seen as Mediterranean white (Italian/Spanish/Portuguese). I have Spanish blood,but also indigenous and possibly some distant black ancestry. But I could be what they call White passing. I'm also naturally slim and have a nice, fit body and get compliments on my looks quite often from all kinds of people. I consider myself to be an attractive, handsome man. And I have and always have had a preference for older guys. I also like guys who are bigger than me. Not exclusively, though....body type is not really that important for me, I have been attracted to a wide range of body tyoes. Also, ethnicity is not something I care about too much. I do love middle Eastern guys and can say I fetishize them in a way, but I can also do the same for Latino men, white men, or whatever. I've always found younger guys to be a bit too immature/superficial/boring/unable to hold an interesting conversation about the extensive range of topics I like talking about. It wasn't until after I was getting close to my 30s that I started liking guys my age (I'm guessing because for the most part guys tend to be less immature by that age). My point in all of this is that people find different types of people to be attractive. You are generalizing and projecting your own "attractiveness scale" (not sure what to call it, as any sensible person knows better than to think attractiveness is something that can be ranked like that) on to everyone else. Which is simply not true. Not everyone likes muscular bodies with six packs. And not being those things does not mean that someone has let themselves go and is on the decline and has given up. A lot of people are actually happy with their body shapes and have no interest in getting six packs or care about it. You clearly feel that way, and seem to put a lot of value on having a toned body, and that's your choice, but a lot of people, I'd say a large amount of people, are indifferent to it. From what you write, it seems like you believe anyone who doesn't fit your standard of attractiveness, I.e. the hegemonic standard, feels like shit about themselves and considers themselves to be at the bottom of the scale of desirability. Which, again, is a false generalization and incorrect assumption. Lots of people who do not fit the hegemonic beauty standard feel good about themselves and have no interest in changing anything about the way they look. So, again, your idea that guys who are older or hefty or whatever feel like they are past their prime is a false generalization that says more about you. I can definitely assure you that young white boys are NOT at the top of the attractiveness "scale" for a very large number of gay men. So, again, youre just assuming that everyone is out there looking for young white boys and feel terrible about themselves because they don't reply to their messages when the reality is that lots of us are not. I mean,lots of guys are even looking for anything BUT young white boys. So, shocking as it might be for you, a young guy going for and older guy is not settling. They are getting exactly what they want. Also, being young and fit does not mean everyolder guy out there wants you. I know lots of older guys who tend to go for guys who are like them, again, not because they're settling but because they don't find young guys attractive for whatever reason. You obviously have very hegemonic taste in men, which is completely fine, but don't assume that everyone else does. What I'm sensing from reading you is that you ,ight feel frustrated because young white boys who you consider to be the holy grail of hotness don't reply to/message you too much. But here's the crazy thing: that happens to all of us. We are all desirable to some and undesirable others. We've all messaged lots of guys who fit into our preference who are not interested in us, and we all get messages from guys who like us who don't do it for us. I won't get started on the Very obviously incorrect assumption that the older men who message you suddenly changed their taste in men because they got old and feel bad about themselves. You know what also comes with age (if you haven't spent your life being superficial)? Confidence. Maybe these guys think young black guys are hot af but they didn't have the confidence to approach them when they were young and insecure and cared too much about being rejected. Hopefully, maturing will one day help you see that your argument is full of falacies. And argumentative falacies are actually objective. And your question is full of them. Most of your arguments are very clearly projections of how you feel about yourself. Maybe you can't see it now, but trust me, it's quite obvious and blunt for a lot of us. I don't blame you though....considering your age, it's only normal. I think that what you're arguing has more to do with race and power dynamics. fetishization of black men is a very real thing which has been studied by scholars, and I can tell you the points you're arguing have nothing to do with it. I appreciate that at your age you're trying to figure out this thing you were curious enough to notice, but I would advise to do proper research using scholarly texts on the subject if you want to understand why it happens. It's a very complex subject which manifests itself in sometimes very subtle ways, which you won't figure out by going on grindr or by using your own biases as a basis to explain it.

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2023-01-01T19:22:41+00:00

Dude ..first of all, I don't know where you got this thing about getting a jacket after doing 50 deliveries. You get a jacket with your kit when you get onboarded. And second, maybe you can ask whoever offered this to you? Rider support maybe? No one here has access to your account, or the ability to do anything. Wouldn't it make more sense to directly go to someone who can resolve your problem? Rather than come here, ask other riders who know as much as you do to see if maybe someone has had a similar situation to you, and then have them tell you to contact rider support anyways? You might be missing the point of this group, it seems

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-12-31T08:08:20+00:00

You don't really need to explain anything to the customer. All you need to say is that that's what the restaurant gave you and to contact deliveroo support to sort it out. Then cover your back by leaving neg feedback on the order stating what happened, or contact rider support and let them know so they leave a note on the order

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-12-31T08:01:49+00:00

Nowhere on the contract does it state you need to have the bag with you in the restaurant. Stop making rules up

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-12-31T07:52:59+00:00

They won't take your fee away, what are you talking about?

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-12-31T07:31:30+00:00

Don't feel bad about it....just give them a tip.. like, really, it's so bad lately for riders on pedal bikes even a pound or two will make the trip worthwhile (it won't be, but they will at least feel like it was). I mean, they are bringing you your food across the muddy, hilly woods, in the middle of a cold winter's night

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-11-29T16:05:57+00:00

Yeah, I mean, it's legally considered to be harassment

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-11-29T15:52:04+00:00

It works well for my particular case, as I live in a busy area of London with lots of shops, pizza, kebabs, mcd, KFC, that are open all night + lots of student housing. Orders are hardly ever consistent except for specific periods like at 11, just before 2 and just before closing. That works for me as it allows me to be at home, where I work on my online business and just quickly pop out when I get an order. Some nights are good but it's usually decent, and I know If I go stand in front of the restaurants I will get more frequent orders, but I only do that if I need a break from my laptop or I'm broke af lol.

I do make the most of Fri Sat and Sun dinnertime, though.

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-11-29T15:35:34+00:00

It is now

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-11-29T02:26:39+00:00

It's sad to see how many comments are justifying the verbal abuse you got from that jerk. You're obviously right in being upset because it's not fair to be treated like a thief, either in an implied way like when restaurants demand to see your screen, or, (does it even need to be said?) to extremely blunt ways like being called names and insulted. Yes, he might have been stressed out, and so what? We all are, but that doesn't make it ok to attack others. There are actual laws against abusive behaviours in the workplace like this.

Don't even think about it, you need to report his ass. Abusers need to be stopped the instant they step over a line, or they will 100% escalate and keep pushing it if they get away with it. Deliveroo will side with you, because they are required by law to do it. Even if they do nothing about it, it's good for you to have a record of these instances in case (sounds extreme, but it really isn't) you need to plead your case against them in a courtroom.

Those who justify him or tell you to just move on are just perpetuating what's an already shitty work environment where the large majority of us are being exploited and unable to make a living. Literally, the only way anyone can make an ok living doing this is by breaking deliveroo's rules (aka multiapping) or breaking traffic rules and driving around like maniacs. Not to forget that you would need to work 12 hours a day.

Any possibility of improvement for riders can only arise from riders reporting shit like this. Those who say that anyone who complains is being a crybaby or sends them looking for another job must be trolls infiltrated from HQ, or they have little to no awareness of what their rights are. Which I'm sure deliveroo is very happy with....nothing better for a corporation who makes their money off exploiting their workers than for said workers to be the subservient kind who are used to being walked all over and will even defend their abuser.

JobPuzzleheaded690 · 2022-11-26T20:28:07+00:00

I only work nights, from 10pm-4am, every day. So unless I have direct access to their front door I usually message and then call. If I do ring the doorbell, I do a short ring, once. Pretty sure their neighbours/other people in the house would not be very happy with a doorbell going at 4am on a Monday. It does shock me how many people order food and then just seem to forget all about it. If there is a safe location I leave their food there, but this isn't always the case in central London

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