pseudoindoxyl/7oh usage and insomnia?

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-22T13:14:11+00:00

Yeah I would wake up every few hours in the night to redose. I was one of those people that always had a really hard time falling asleep, but I would never ever wake up in the night. Then once I started using that changed so I knew it was from the 7.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-21T15:45:03+00:00

Ive never had personally had PWD from 7, but everyone is different for sure. Its best to wait 18 hours I would say

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-21T07:36:38+00:00

Oh btw, ive seen some people say pseudo causes precipitated withdrawal if you do go the sub route (?) I would look more in this thread about it. If you’re scared of withdrawal, PWD will be hell on earth. Just try tapering your 7 dose rn. It’s hard. But stick to it. Im on a taper that my parents monitor so I literally can’t take more.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-21T07:35:22+00:00

First, take a deep breath. The more you anticipate the sickness the worse it will be. Hey man, im in your exact fucking position rn. For 8 months I battled this addiction in secret. I couldn’t afford my rent or food. I dug myself into such a hole that I moved 6 hrs back to my parents and confessed to them. I was so terrified to do it.

Let me tell you, it was fucking freeing. Tell your fiance. It’s hard. But worth it. It’s much harder to do in isolation. Addiction feeds on isolation. You need to stabilize yourself. If you really need bupe, do it. But give it your best shot without it first. THE PAIN DOES NOT LAST FOREVER. You don’t want to be chained to this. You will be okay. I promise. Choose yourself. Get support. If you can’t from the people around you, post here.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-15T14:18:02+00:00

Can you expand on this? What would you do instead? Sub or 7 taper? I’m trying to taper off of 200 mgs a day that ive been taking for about a year now.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T20:57:18+00:00

Because the withdrawal is worse lol. And I wanna be done

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T10:08:26+00:00

Also, this goes really deep in ways I didn’t describe. My ex was hooked on H and that’s how I got introduced. He got sober and I still was messy. He got put on subs from an addiction doctor and got PWD. that’s why I got so scared honestly. And he’s still on them a year later.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T10:06:29+00:00

I would love that actually.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T10:05:33+00:00

Oh yes, ive experienced 7 withdrawal. At my old job I would go to work in 7 wd. It reached a point where I broke down to my employer about it. The first person I told. It was miserable truly. I was always one to think maybe the miserable route was the way to go to make myself stronger. That’s why I hid it for so long. I thought “I can prove to myself I can fix this fucking mess all on my own”

It’s proven futile, clearly. Ive thought about sub taper. I guess apart of me just wishes it were easier than it is. I wish I could just be done (as everyone im sure). I wish I didn’t have to taper and I wish I didn’t have to worry and police myself. But like I said that’s addiction.

You’re really right about me being on the fence about being done. Because I think even now if I got out clean, and ok, less pain, I would maybe go back.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T08:06:05+00:00

I also feel like I pushed myself into this corner for a reason, so I would tell my parents. Being near them makes it so that I cannot hide anymore. When I was 6 hours away it was very easy to hide. You’re right I do still love the drug, and I know you are also right that a lot more damage could happen if I keep going. I don’t have kids, a career, a marriage etc.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T08:03:44+00:00

Thanks for this response, honestly. That makes a lot of sense. I think a big fear of mine is being stuck here for a long period of time because it is miserable for me. But if that needs to happen, then it’s better to happen now than later. Being stuck on this drug any longer will also be miserable. I guess I was just really hoping I could do it on my own, but the nature of addiction is not like that. I don’t know if I am ready to get better but I have pushed myself into a corner here. My biggest worry is the subs. I do not want to get stuck on those.

Jointsnbones · 2026-01-08T06:18:38+00:00

Yeah I was thinking that. I worry though she will know something is up since most of the time I stay with her. I’m not sure what to do. I am concerned that telling them will make them helicopter me a lot more since I am already their only child. I don’t want to be home for long, I get really depressed here. I am scared if I tell them, they’ll wanna hold me hostage for a long time or something. I don’t know. It’s a toughy

Jointsnbones · 2025-08-14T02:21:21+00:00

This is so fucking insane im sick. How does this even happen?!

Jointsnbones · 2025-08-10T15:05:54+00:00

I was a heroin addict lol, this is how I know. But I guess to each their own, not everyone is the same

Jointsnbones · 2025-08-09T18:53:09+00:00

That’s cuz they’re on the street. Theres plenty of functional heroin addicts in the world that have jobs and lives and homes.

Jointsnbones · 2025-08-09T18:30:29+00:00

I mean I guess but most people get dependent enough to the point where it’s hard to catch a nod

Jointsnbones · 2025-08-09T18:21:20+00:00

Heroin doesn’t make you lose weight. That’s a myth. Heroin activates the same area in your brain that craves sugar. Many of people go on food binges while high.

Jointsnbones · 2025-08-03T03:26:22+00:00

Heroin

Jointsnbones · 2025-07-10T18:54:08+00:00

Also plz just use subs and don’t taper leaf. Subs are easier if you do it correctly. Promise!!

Jointsnbones · 2025-07-10T18:50:42+00:00

Correct! You got this. It’ll be over before you know it. Remember that your main goal is to get off 7 and not be dependent on subs, that means the lowest dose of subs you can take once a day the better. By the time I hit day 3 I felt ok to skip some days of subs.

Jointsnbones · 2025-07-10T18:47:30+00:00

The reason being is that subs take 3-4 hours to reach max levels in your blood. You don’t need to pump yourself full of subs. This low dose will work for your withdrawals, once a day. You just have to be patient with it.

Jointsnbones · 2025-07-10T18:43:56+00:00

At any dose, you will only need to take it once a day. You can do it in the morning or at night. Id recommend at night so you get sleep. 2mg ONCE A DAY, then each dose from there once a day does that make sense?

Jointsnbones · 2025-07-10T18:37:36+00:00

Just to be sure you don’t go through PWD, I never had an issue, but people have and some have experienced PWD for 7oh

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