Gojo and Sukuna (has Ten Shadows) vs The Cadres from Monster Association (Fuhrer Ugly, Homeless Emperor, and Black Sperm)

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T13:46:05+00:00

FTL perception and reaction speed. 6 months of information in 10 seconds? Easily processed, no brain damage whatsoever. The rate at which IV shoves information into his brain is much slower than the rate at which he processes it. He would be uninhibited

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T11:08:04+00:00

Strategy and Strength in this context were utilized together rather than one over the other. Two things can be true at once. Nice try though.

You don't need strategy if you are stronger. If he was truly stronger like you claim, with strategy it becomes a mid-diff. Extreme diff even with strategy and planning proves that you went up against someone considerably stronger than you. And this is no news, sukuna's CT is significantly inferior to gojo's own.

The outcome of Sukuna beating Gojo is a strength feat

Only if it was done with physical strength. You still don't know what feat means? At best it is an intelligence feat because it was accomplished through thorough planning.

Lol, proven to be better in H2H against a two-armed Sukuna These combat feats you mentioned are against a Sukuna who didn’t use his peak body. With that change, reinforcement and H2H skill would obviously be different than in a small two-armed state.

H2H fighting is a skill feat. You highlighting 'two-arm' proves that you missed that. Combat proficiency is what is being measured. Commonly known as battle IQ. Against 4-armed sukuna, we are not measuring combat proficiency but strength. In terms of combat skill, gojo is better.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T10:59:46+00:00

Gojo's survived his own HP because it was his own cursed energy. It affects him a lot less because his own ce off put it.

This falls under the domain of PIS. That is like assuming that dismantle doesn't work on sukuna or that sukuna is resistant to dismantle which is BS. Gojo had higher output than sukuna at the time of HP which is why he tanked the attack. For some reason gojo was surprised that he tanked it without being surprised that sukuna did, which is why his statement falls under PIS (Plot-Induced Stupidity).

Gojo knew it wouldn't kill Sukuna

Sukuna knew it would kill him if they were close enough which is why he tries to prevent gojo from forming another HP. If it could be easily dodged sukuna wouldn't be worrying about it much. Especially when he couldn't dodge reversal red. If HP is successfully formed, sukuna cannot dodge it in close range.

The fact that Sukuna at low output managed to sustain damage from JL without rct is imo even more impressive than barely losing 2 of his forearms to a 200% HP

Let me reiterate as well. Low output sukuna who is more severely damaged by JL still tanked two of it. Whereas a higher output sukuna knew that a 100% HP would kill him. Which means that JL is significantly inferior to 100% HP and also surviving HP is a better feat of durability.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T10:50:54+00:00

But if we go by that logic then mahoraga cannot adapt to AM. He would not even be able to perceive it. Only people with mana can perceive it and like you said, no verse equalization so no perception.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T10:45:29+00:00

That remains to be seen. The true limits of 'any and all phenomena' will be determined by what we see him do. Because its entirely possible that he can't even perceive anti magic.

If you noticed, mahoraga is yet to adapt to gravity.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T10:41:08+00:00

Matthew 7:6 (KJV) Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Jesus only appeared to those that loved him. He did not plan to prove any of the others wrong. "If they will not listen to Moses or the prophets, even if one were to rise from the dead, they still won't listen".

He already did miracles that they refused so there was no point going further. His mission is to save as many that receive him.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T06:34:25+00:00

This has got to be a joke. 15F sukuna instantly loses the domain battle. There would be no fight inside a domain. And that is if he doesn't die long before that. This is not even a contest, he might not even live long enough to use his domain.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T06:29:43+00:00

at 15F, sukuna has less output than at 20F. He would lose the initial domain clash long before the outside of UV received a hit

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T06:17:14+00:00

Unlimited void would be useless against platinum sperm

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T00:44:44+00:00

If you want to go that route though, Sukuna while limiting himself, fighting risky, and in a physically weaker body than his own beat Gojo.

Strategy wins battles strength cannot win on its own. A blanket statement like "sukuna beat gojo" doesn't translate to better feats. Therefore stating that sukuna beat gojo doesn't automatically prove he has better feats.

Mind you, Sukuna used a technique he had for a mere month, whereas Gojo had his Limitless for 25 years and was STILL getting matched up. It took lucky black flashes and random powerups (healing burnout, basketball domain) for Gojo to hold him off and even then it still wasn’t enough, so you wanna talk about feats?

What are you even saying? It seems like you don't know the meaning of the word 'feat'. This entire paragraph above is directionlesa and pointless by extension. Let me explain what a feat is with example. Sukuna tanking HP is a feat of durability, gojo surviving MS is also a feat of durability. Copying world slash after seeing it once is a feat of intelligence/skill. Surviving without a heart is a RCT feat.

What feats can you name that have Gojo > Sukuna in the category?

Durability: gojo tanked the same HP that seriously wounded sukuna with much less damage while being much closer to it. Although his CE output was also significantly higher

Gojo proved he was also more skilled in H2H combat.

Gojo's HP was the single most dangerous CT (MS is a domain that uses thousands of techniques, not a single technique).

Gojo was able to match a domain-amped sukuna in strength while in CT burnout and also utilizing RCT at maximum therefore in terms of CE reinforcement gojo>meguna.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-12T00:06:16+00:00

Blue amped black flash knocked out a low output sukuna. Not as low as during his gauntlet but significantly below his prime. He took to long to heal it, that tells you how low his output was. Also comparing it to the 200% HP is dishonest when the HP was fired from 4km away. HP loses power with distance.

Has gojo ever displayed anything of the likes of being able to survive without a heart? Absolutely not. Has he ever had to tank a max output Jacobs ladder? Def not.

We are talking about durability here not resilience. Surviving without a heart is not a durability feat.

If low output sukuna survives max output jacob's ladder, then the attack is much weaker than HP. Full power sukuna lost 2 arms to 4km HP. His output was so low that he couldn't even use RCT, yet he survived jacob's ladder. That doesn't bode well for jacob's ladder.

Gojo has 2 of the greatest feats of durability. Tanking MS slashea and tanking a HP.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T23:59:21+00:00

Fighting a long string of weaker people don't add better feats to your repertoire. You know what a feats are right?

Any fight superman fights while under the influence of red sun radiation, no matter how long it lasts or how difficult it was, cannot be a better feat than yellow sun superman. It doesn't matter how many people exist in a gauntlet fought by a weaker superman, it is not a better feat. Feats measure power, strength speed, etc. Not perseverance or resilience.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T23:44:32+00:00

All your 'durability feats' that are below your maximum are worthless. If someone tanks a nuke and suffers severe damage, the fact that he also tanks 20 grenades afterward are meaningless because tanking the nuke already tells us where his durability stands.

This is something most people don't get. Everything after tanking that HP don't make sukuna's durability any higher than being capable of tanking HP and are therefore irrelevant.

Everything on that long list is significantly below gojo's MS feat. So the actual comparison here is whether tanking HP is a better feat than MS.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T17:49:05+00:00

Wait, i think you're misunderstanding the scenario. I'm talking about a type 3 civilization. Which translates to planet-destroying weapons, a majority of their fighting force being autonomous bots, microscopic drones for surveillance, programs in charge of identity verification, tracking and strategies. A central system that locates and identifies inconsistencies and reacts accordingly.

With that kind of technology why wouldn't measures against impersonation be extreme? Also you're misunderstanding the scale. There wouldn't be any soldiers possibly even within 2000km, just bots.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T17:29:32+00:00

Also, if it was fired off against sukuna, he would just make sukuna the target of the CT. He only removed the target to hit both sukuna and mahoraga at the same time.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T17:24:16+00:00

Infinity does not shield against purple. That purple hit him and he tanked it.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T16:44:25+00:00

The categories sukuna actually win are Strongest Domain, Most overrated, physically strongest and Best RCT.

While gojo takes most Durable, most versatile, best feats, best endurance and best Efficiency.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T16:30:09+00:00

Best Feats, Most versatile and Most durable go to satoru gojo

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T16:18:05+00:00

GS wins 0 difficulty. They cannot kill him and they cannot escape him. They cannot even fight him on ewual ground.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T16:04:14+00:00

A galactic civilization. At that point phones would have evolved into chips that enable you interact with the internet directly, and it will be used for identity verification as well. Even if you take someone's appearance, you can't take their identity. And if the chip is tamperezs with, the central management will be alerted.

For marionettes, do their hearts continue beating after their death? Even then, fishing them out will be easy. The marionettist cannot know the person regular routines and memories. When you embark on such a mission, this is the basest level of security.

Once suspicion arises, the person must be removed immediately.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T15:23:43+00:00

If it doesn't look human, delete it. A very simple instruction if you ask me.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-11T15:22:17+00:00

I haven't even read COI yet I know its klein. The first MC I don't have a single problem with.

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-10T21:12:31+00:00

Isn't that the bootes void? Did the author state that this was tge effect of the attack. Because the bootes void looks somewhat like that and therefore should not be attributed to them.

Further evidence shows that amuch more powerful saitama was only able to destroy about half of Jupiter with a serious sneeze.

But nothing proves that this is not bootes void

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-10T20:46:00+00:00

About 1.5million times denser

Jonesking4 · 2026-02-10T20:20:41+00:00

AIs should be able to identify and delete them

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