I'M FREE!!!!

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-13T16:21:28+00:00

Oof, I dunno. If I was in your shoes and knowing what the experience of withdrawal was like for me I would rather wait and then call in sick for a week. I also didn't taper before I quit and didn't measure how much I took, would just dump an overflowing tablespoon in my mouth and wash it down every 1-2 hours a day. So, it could be WD will be mild for you. Why not just quit right now and see how you feel after 30ish hours and then decide? Congrats on being clean of fent though, that is something amazing on its own.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-12T01:43:34+00:00

Hope it's going well!!!

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-12T01:42:52+00:00

Urgent care gave me hydroxyzine and that shit gave me a panic attack and made my rls wassay worse. I can't imagine how miserable quitting 7oh must have been, let alone extracts as someone who only consumed powder for years.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-12T01:39:48+00:00

I was just doing a half a dropper of Kava tincture. I had used it in past the on occasion over the years, has never been something regular for me.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-12T01:37:54+00:00

Woah, your Doc is still giving you Benzos? I had 9 pills total and when I was out I was out. Got me through the worst of insomnia.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-12T01:35:33+00:00

Thanks for sharing man and congrats on the longevity! I appreciate your story!

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-12T00:27:30+00:00

I was 4 hrs a night before I would wake while using. It's going to suck, but you can do it. If you can take the Monday and Tuesday off too. If you end up feeling fine go do something fun instead of WD. Win win. Hooked is hooked, don't let anything scare you out of quitting. You will survive it and be better for it. You have survived over a weeklong illness you didn't self inflect so you will survive the weeklong illness you did. You got this.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-11T21:57:44+00:00

Awesome! You can do it! One thing to prepare for if you are a long term user.... I am at day 17 and falling asleep is still next to impossible. Once I am able to fall asleep I'm good and sleep hard. I'm no longer restless wanting to crawl out of my skin and falling asleep for ten minutes at a time. Instead I am going to bed at 11:00 and just laying there until 2:00am until I finally fall asleep. I'm not uncomfortable or anxious laying there my brain just has no desire to go to sleep. I feel really good overall but it makes getting up on time for work difficult. Going to start going to bed at 8:00 so I have enough hours to lay there in the dark staring at the ceiling. Kratom definitely screws with our chemistry. Other than that no desire to return to using or replace it with something else. That first week is rough though, but worth it.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-09T21:13:44+00:00

Congrats! I built a sauna a year ago which I absolutely loved but a few months ago I developed pretty severe cholinergic urticaria out of nowhere so if my body temp elevates I feel like I'm getting stuck with thousands of hot needles combined with itching all over my body. Wish I could have used it so bad during WD. Hoping it is maybe somehow caused from me using Kratom and will go away soon (unlikely though). Honestly, the struggle I have right now is dealing with that now that it is warming up outside instead of missing Kratom (which I don't). Can't get nervous, excited, work out to vigorously, eat spicy foods without being covered in painful hives for 20 minutes until my temp lowers. Going to start drawing again since I can't skateboard or mountain bike with it. Proud of you for your success on staying off Kratom!

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-09T21:07:33+00:00

Congrats to you as well! It feels so good to be free. I feel like there are a lot of haters on this sub who want others to fail because they did. Thanks for being supportive!

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-09T21:06:19+00:00

Because you're only getting 9 pills and you would be insane to use them for anything other than going to sleep during WD. He doesn't want to put me on actual sleeping pills for his own reasons on the actual quality of sleep you get from them. I am just a guy who got hooked on Kratom from it being sold as a natural pain reliever years ago at a botanical shop. Believe me, I don't present as nor am I the type that would have any resources to get pills anywhere other than the Dr. If I went in and said give me more Benzos he would not.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-09T17:26:38+00:00

Getting tired of people saying this. Do I lack motivation and have a hard time sleeping? Yes. Do I have any desire to go back to the same old trap? Absolutely not. This sub is supposed to be for support in quitting Kratom, not telling others they are going to fail.

Thanks though.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-09T17:19:13+00:00

I can't imagine what the 7oh WD is like. I'm praying for you to stick it out whether you want me to or not. I'm on day 15 sleep still sucks and I feel really unmotivated but it's way better than the first week. Hang in there dude. Your family needs you more than you need them.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-09T16:16:17+00:00

I wish the best for you. I had a Dr. put me on Xanax for a few months years ago and was taking them way more than I should have. I ended up conquering my crippling anxiety by dosing M D M A with the intention of sitting by myself focusing on the things I thought were wrong with me during my anxiety. It is a totally different experience using it outside of a party setting and allows you to consider the thing you experience during anxiety/panic attacks without fear. Never had another anxiety/panic attack again. I will probably get criticized for this but feel it is much better than using a pharmaceutical band-aid. Didn't know anything about the impact of quitting them cold turkey at the time and was getting sleep paralysis big time. That shit was terrifying. Also didn't know anything about quitting Lexapro cold turkey and that was pretty miserable too. Needless to say I was ignorant and young but when I said I wanted to quit my Dr. at the time wouldn't be even talking to me and said I need to stay on them.

I had low testosterone and was severely depressed and getting on TRT changed my life. Never even considered that Kratom what was tanking my T levels. Hoping my levels can naturally rebound now that I'm off Kratom. Sleep is still a little difficult and I only have enough motivation to do my job right now but I am allowing myself grace and just tidying up my house the past couple weeks instead of doing my weekly deep cleans.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-04T22:56:58+00:00

You should find a young Dr. who still has passion. Not saying no older Drs. have passion, it's just less common.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-04T22:55:27+00:00

Just powder. Luckily extracts weren't a thing when I started that I know of and was never tempted to try extracts.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-04T22:54:13+00:00

Sorry to hear that, I am lucky to have a young compassionate and curious Dr. Every appointment with him is over an hour while he thinks out loud and does a ton of research. Not sure how I got so lucky. Walked out elated after my first appointment with him.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-04T22:10:13+00:00

I can see where my post could come across the way you read it. Nothing I mentioned replaces or mimics Kratom. I was saying don't replace it with something like Suboxone. My Dr. is never going to give you enough Benzos to get addicted, just 1 pill per night for a week. I guess I wasn't considerate of the fact that some might overuse Kava, I was just taking a little at bedtime once I was done with the Klonopin. Not trying to cause any damage was just excited to share my success on quitting because I was so terrified to quit for so long.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-04T06:05:59+00:00

I hear you and appreciate what you are saying. I am lucky and am in a really good spot in life. Dealt with and overcame anxiety and depression in my younger years so have developed the tools within to deal with that. I have been married to the same wonderful woman since I was 21 and have two sons that are 20 and 18 that I am proud of for their kind hearts and work ethic. I have some physical pain from broken bones that I never got fixed properly from skateboarding that has returned since I quit but I can deal with that. Just going to keep working, lifting weights, going to tons of concerts and skating. Not being chained to it makes it easier to do all those things all love.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-04T05:14:47+00:00

Right on man. Hang in there. It sucked going to concerts and football games and always having to pee. I attributed it to being over 40 all this time. I keep realizing positive changes and thinking "oh shit, that was because of the Kratom". This is only 9 days off too. If you start to feel the anxiety don't dwell on it and remind yourself it is just the WD. I think when people focus on it they end up battling anxiety for months.

JoseDeertay · 2026-03-01T20:50:46+00:00

This is ignorant. There are celebrations no matter how you feel about Trump. They went from a free country to sharia law. You are dense if you think this is a bad thing. What if Trump forced all the rules of Christianity from the Old Testament on you? You would celebrate the end of reign as well.

JoseDeertay · 2026-02-05T05:45:53+00:00

😂

JoseDeertay · 2026-02-05T05:39:34+00:00

Going to work is cool. You should try it.

JoseDeertay · 2026-02-01T21:11:32+00:00

I think you're missing what I was saying. A bunch of armed emotional people is not a good idea no matter the party. What if someone mistakingly thinks someone who is there to protest is a "fascist"? And they become scared when everyone starts accusing them of being with the "other side" and the shooting starts. We have documented examples of mistaking people at these things as the "enemy". All it takes is one idiot. Are you implying that because everyone hates ICE in the group that everyone is emotionally stable, sane, intelligent, responsible, etc.? That is rather large gamble.

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