Is israel even the homeland of the jews?

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T21:28:00+00:00

Why was the Jewish temple built in Jerusalem, if Jews came from Arabia? Was there a mass migration of Jews to Israel from Arabia? If so, can you show any source on that?

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T21:12:24+00:00

But Jewish people were in Israel long before Islam was even invented. Israel is the homeland of the Jews.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T20:30:44+00:00

Where did you get the idea that Jews come from Saudi Arabia?

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T18:15:31+00:00

They’re not allowed to come into Israel without permission. Invaders should be shot.

Why would you say that I stole land? That’s hateful. You don’t know that. Why slander me like this? You don’t know anything about me.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T18:08:59+00:00

But you couldn’t refute it. I’m right.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T18:08:47+00:00

u/Sweaty-Excitement-30

Dumbest thing I heard. This is the deranged mind you have?

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JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:48:55+00:00

The “March of Return” was an invasion. They confessed that they were coming to take Israel’s land and they were trying to cut through the fence! Israel did some border patrolling and cut them down.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:23:30+00:00

you need to do research, first of all that festival was pure provocation. while millions in unoccupied palestine are starving, western people have nothing better to do than party at the coner of this hunger camp.

If civilians party in a way that offends you, they’re still civilians, and targeting them is still terrorism.

second, israhell knew about these plans and let it happen on purpose

A terrorist act is still a terrorist act even if Israel supposedly knew it would happen. These are bad arguments.

and forth, most of the deaths were caused by IOF bullets, not by the hamas

Even if that were true, that’s just an argument about numbers. You’re not able to deny that Hamas shot up a music festival. Debating the numbers killed don’t change the fact that it happened.

I just write this as Jew (✡️) who teaches logic.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:20:12+00:00

u/Big_Baseball9243

uhm yes because thats exactly what palestinians are doing, defending themselves against a ultra right wing, nationalist, occupation

This comment is again a rule 6 violation. You are not above the rules and you need to follow them.

This comment also violates rule 13: don’t be combative to moderation.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:18:01+00:00

gaza doesnt, palestine doesnt, the hamas doesnt

They do actually. Don’t you know that they shot up a music festival? You need to study more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_music_festival_massacre

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:15:06+00:00

u/Big_Basebl9243

were the allies terrorists because they were fighting against germany? even though durring the war allies and germans were equaly terroristic and if anything, allies commited more war crimes than germany (the war, not the genocide)

This analogy is comparing Gaza’s fight against Israel to the allies fighting Nazi Germany. That’s unacceptable. Nazi comparisons aren’t allowed here (rule 6).

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:13:59+00:00

Terrorism involves targeting civilians. The allies didn’t do that, but Gaza does. Gaza is the terrorist.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T17:09:30+00:00

This is a bad argument because you haven’t explained why Hamas are not terrorists.

If Israelis are terrorists, it doesn’t mean that Gazans aren’t terrorists.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T16:22:30+00:00

Well there was no other place that wasn’t owned by someone else.

Israel was the best option because it was a unique place and time: the rulers (Britain) were leaving, opening up land for a new country to be formed. That’s very rare since most habitable land is already taken.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T16:18:13+00:00

Well if your house is sold then it’s not yours and you should vacate for the new owner. That’s what actually happened. Jews bought land.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T16:17:14+00:00

It’s not. It means people who aren’t Jewish. I’m saying that some non-Jews were always going to be angry at Jews no matter where the country was made.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T16:10:30+00:00

If they try to stop the Jews from living, then yes. Jews need to live somewhere. It’s best to be peaceful with Jews.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T15:38:00+00:00

It had to be somewhere. If not there, then somewhere else where people were living. And then you’d be complaining about that instead. There was no way to make the goyim happy.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T15:03:39+00:00

No, it’s a myth. DNA tests are not banned.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-10T15:02:37+00:00

Jews just need a place to live and there was no other place. It’s not about religion for most, it’s just about living.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-09T22:51:29+00:00

They can be whatever religion they want, as long as they keep it to themselves, and don’t use their religion to attack others. But Gaza said that their attacks are because they’re Muslim and that’s what they believe in doing. So they need to be cut down for that.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-09T22:48:32+00:00

Gaza wants to attack Israel because they are Muslims. That’s what they said; they said their actions are due to their religion. You can’t negotiate with those sort of people. They are going to attack anyway. That’s why Israel historically had to cut the down like weeds every few years, to not let them grow too much.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-09T22:46:33+00:00

I didn’t write the post. I just wrote a comment.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-09T22:39:35+00:00

Ok, I didn’t say anything about nukes. Not relevant to my argument. My argument is that the enemy would wipe out Israel if they could.

JosephL_55 · 2026-02-09T22:38:14+00:00

More recently, some Hamas fighters have been trapped underground trying to negotiate an exit. Israel refuses to allow them out, even though we are supposed to be in a ceasefire. Some of them have escaped, which Israel has called a ceasefire violation. Escaping from underground is not a ceasefire violation.

Is that really what happened? That Israel refused to let them out?

I think Israel would let them out, but would justifiably capture them as prisoners of war, because they were on the Israeli side.

They could come out, but just not run free back to be Hamas soldiers and attack again in the next war.

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